Vista - Port Status Tab in Settings

10-26-2008

I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a
wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two
computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router
and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet).
After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized,
although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been
transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I
notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are
"Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other
has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be
"unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both
computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall? If they have
to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there
is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote
access selected for the computers. True?

10-26-2008

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Quote:

> I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a
> wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two
> computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router
> and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet).
> After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized,
> although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been
> transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I
> notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are
> "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other
> has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be
> "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both
> computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall?

No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with
computers away from your local network although there would be a speed
benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You
can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by
educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up
port forwarding in your gateway router.

Quote:

> If they have
> to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there
> is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote
> access selected for the computers. True?

Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the
master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open
inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that.

Tony

10-26-2008

"Anthony R. Gold" wrote:

Quote:

> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>

Quote:

> > I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a
> > wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two
> > computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router
> > and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet).
> > After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized,
> > although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been
> > transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I
> > notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are
> > "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other
> > has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be
> > "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both
> > computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall?

>
> No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with
> computers away from your local network although there would be a speed
> benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You
> can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by
> educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up
> port forwarding in your gateway router.
>

Quote:

> > If they have
> > to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there
> > is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote
> > access selected for the computers. True?

>
> Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the
> master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open
> inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that.
>
> Tony
>

Thanks. What would cause the files not to synchronize then? Both computers
indicate they have sent updated files to the other computer in the activity
section of the FS application, but when one compares the files they are
different. If the FS server is down for instance, will that cause the files
to not synchronize?

10-26-2008

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:50:02 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Quote:

>
>
> "Anthony R. Gold" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a
>>> wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two
>>> computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router
>>> and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet).
>>> After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized,
>>> although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been
>>> transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I
>>> notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are
>>> "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other
>>> has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be
>>> "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both
>>> computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall?

>>
>> No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with
>> computers away from your local network although there would be a speed
>> benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You
>> can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by
>> educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up
>> port forwarding in your gateway router.
>>

Quote:

>>> If they have
>>> to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there
>>> is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote
>>> access selected for the computers. True?

>>
>> Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the
>> master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open
>> inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that.
>>
>> Tony
>>

> Thanks. What would cause the files not to synchronize then? Both computers
> indicate they have sent updated files to the other computer in the activity
> section of the FS application, but when one compares the files they are
> different.

If the files have been sent and received I can think of no reason for them
to be different. Are you sure you are looking at the right files?

Quote:

> If the FS server is down for instance, will that cause the files
> to not synchronize?

I don't understand the question. If the FS servers are down your computers
will not be able to find each other or be told which files to send and to
receive.

Tony

10-29-2008

"Anthony R. Gold" wrote:

Quote:

> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:50:02 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>

Quote:

> >
> >
> > "Anthony R. Gold" wrote:
> >

Quote:

> >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a
> >>> wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two
> >>> computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router
> >>> and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet).
> >>> After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized,
> >>> although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been
> >>> transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I
> >>> notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are
> >>> "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other
> >>> has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be
> >>> "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both
> >>> computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall?
> >>
> >> No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with
> >> computers away from your local network although there would be a speed
> >> benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You
> >> can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by
> >> educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up
> >> port forwarding in your gateway router.
> >>
> >>> If they have
> >>> to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there
> >>> is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote
> >>> access selected for the computers. True?
> >>
> >> Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the
> >> master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open
> >> inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>

> > Thanks. What would cause the files not to synchronize then? Both computers
> > indicate they have sent updated files to the other computer in the activity
> > section of the FS application, but when one compares the files they are
> > different.

>
> If the files have been sent and received I can think of no reason for them
> to be different. Are you sure you are looking at the right files?
>

Quote:

> > If the FS server is down for instance, will that cause the files
> > to not synchronize?

>
> I don't understand the question. If the FS servers are down your computers
> will not be able to find each other or be told which files to send and to
> receive.
>
> Tony
>

If I look at the FS logs on each computer, they each identify changes made
to the files and when they were sent to the other computer. There is nothing
in either log that indicates files have been received from the other
computer. Should there be such a log entry? Thanks.

DGD

10-26-2008	#1 (permalink)
DGD n/a posts	Port Status Tab in Settings I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet). After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized, although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall? If they have to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote access selected for the computers. True?
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10-26-2008	#2 (permalink)
Anthony R. Gold n/a posts	Re: Port Status Tab in Settings On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a > wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two > computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router > and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet). > After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized, > although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been > transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I > notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are > "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other > has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be > "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both > computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall? No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with computers away from your local network although there would be a speed benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up port forwarding in your gateway router. Quote: > If they have > to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there > is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote > access selected for the computers. True? Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that. Tony
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10-26-2008	#3 (permalink)
DGD n/a posts	Re: Port Status Tab in Settings "Anthony R. Gold" wrote: Quote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx> > wrote: > Quote: > > I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a > > wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two > > computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router > > and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet). > > After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized, > > although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been > > transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I > > notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are > > "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other > > has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be > > "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both > > computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall? > > No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with > computers away from your local network although there would be a speed > benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You > can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by > educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up > port forwarding in your gateway router. > Quote: > > If they have > > to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there > > is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote > > access selected for the computers. True? > > Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the > master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open > inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that. > > Tony > Thanks. What would cause the files not to synchronize then? Both computers indicate they have sent updated files to the other computer in the activity section of the FS application, but when one compares the files they are different. If the FS server is down for instance, will that cause the files to not synchronize?
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10-26-2008	#4 (permalink)
Anthony R. Gold n/a posts	Re: Port Status Tab in Settings On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:50:02 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > > > "Anthony R. Gold" wrote: > Quote: >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx> >> wrote: >> Quote: >>> I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a >>> wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two >>> computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router >>> and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet). >>> After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized, >>> although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been >>> transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I >>> notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are >>> "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other >>> has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be >>> "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both >>> computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall? >> >> No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with >> computers away from your local network although there would be a speed >> benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You >> can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by >> educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up >> port forwarding in your gateway router. >> Quote: >>> If they have >>> to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there >>> is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote >>> access selected for the computers. True? >> >> Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the >> master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open >> inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that. >> >> Tony >> > Thanks. What would cause the files not to synchronize then? Both computers > indicate they have sent updated files to the other computer in the activity > section of the FS application, but when one compares the files they are > different. If the files have been sent and received I can think of no reason for them to be different. Are you sure you are looking at the right files? Quote: > If the FS server is down for instance, will that cause the files > to not synchronize? I don't understand the question. If the FS servers are down your computers will not be able to find each other or be told which files to send and to receive. Tony
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10-29-2008	#5 (permalink)
DGD n/a posts	Re: Port Status Tab in Settings "Anthony R. Gold" wrote: Quote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:50:02 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx> > wrote: > Quote: > > > > > > "Anthony R. Gold" wrote: > > Quote: > >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:01 -0700, DGD <DGD@xxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I have Foldershare set up to work behind my router between two computers on a > >>> wireless network. The data that is to be synchronized between these two > >>> computers is always on the wireless network controlled by a wireless router > >>> and is never accessed from the other side of the router (i.e. the Internet). > >>> After changing the data on one computer, the files are not synchronized, > >>> although there are entries in Foldershare that indicate files have been > >>> transferred. When I look at thea Settings box under the port status tab, I > >>> notice that on one computer all four TCP ports (80, 443, 6571, 8000) are > >>> "Blocked" under the "Accect Connections" column on one computer and the other > >>> has either all blocked or two of them blocked. Do these ports have to be > >>> "unblocked" to accept connections or data from the other computer, when both > >>> computers are working behind a router with a built-in firewall? > >> > >> No. Indeed those don't even need to be unblocked when synchronising with > >> computers away from your local network although there would be a speed > >> benefit in that situation because doing that enables p2p connections. You > >> can get full speed p2p connections between the hosts on your LAN just by > >> educating the firewalls of your computers and without needing to set up > >> port forwarding in your gateway router. > >> > >>> If they have > >>> to be "unblocked" how do I go about doing that? My assumption is that there > >>> is no connection with the FolderShare server required if I have no remote > >>> access selected for the computers. True? > >> > >> Your computers must have access to the MS FS servers because they keep the > >> master indexes of the files in your libraries. But you do not need to open > >> inward connections to the FS ports of your computers to enable that. > >> > >> Tony > >> > > Thanks. What would cause the files not to synchronize then? Both computers > > indicate they have sent updated files to the other computer in the activity > > section of the FS application, but when one compares the files they are > > different. > > If the files have been sent and received I can think of no reason for them > to be different. Are you sure you are looking at the right files? > Quote: > > If the FS server is down for instance, will that cause the files > > to not synchronize? > > I don't understand the question. If the FS servers are down your computers > will not be able to find each other or be told which files to send and to > receive. > > Tony > If I look at the FS logs on each computer, they each identify changes made to the files and when they were sent to the other computer. There is nothing in either log that indicates files have been received from the other computer. Should there be such a log entry? Thanks. DGD
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