Thanks for responding Christoph. I appreciate that you are working hard on
developing FolderShare. I and I'm sure many others appreciate the fact that
you and your colleagues do participate in this forum.
With a very heavy heart and reluctant finger I clicked Uninstall today on
FolderShare in favour of PowerFolder. PowerFolder has really come on and so
far works very well with our 100GB/40,000 files. I only investigated it again
after my previous post and promptly parted with cash. Its not perfect (I'm
not a fan of Java or open source generally for a start) but works well and
has a few key features.
I will be closely monitoring FolderShare developments although will probably
not switch to a new platform now for some time (should anything else develop
I suspect that FolderShare could conflict with Windows Server sales hence
needing a different approach. Please don't let it go the way of Cairo (the
infamous all object-orientated Windows). PowerFolder has just upped the ante
- with a few enterprise features added it could really go somewhere.
The gauntlet has been laid down...
"Christoph Zelazowski [MSFT]" wrote:
> You bring some very good points Simon. Thank you very much for taking time
> and providing this feedback. While it may seem like sometimes we (Microsoft)
> are not very involved in the newsgroup, rest assured that we do monitor it
> very carefully and do listen to everyone's suggestions. The reality is - we
> are very busy working on improving the end user experience in general and are
> not yet in the position to disclose any specific plans or make promises. But
> any feedback we receive is much appreciated and carefully taken into account
> in our product planning.
> "simonc" wrote:
> > Some time back I made a post and projection about foldershare and where it is
> > going. Despite the encouraging responses from Microsoft, I find myself
> > bitterly disappointed by the lack of any real progress on what is
> > fundamentally a great product.
> > I have spent considerable time and cash looking at options to solve real
> > file sync'ing business problems and Foldershare should be a hands down win.
> > The grand vision of Live Mesh, Groove and Live Folders are unfortunately
> > more vision than grand. They each focus on niche areas and none are any real
> > improvement on the fundemental service of file and folder sync.
> > I have been a major proponent of most Microsoft software for a number of
> > years and for a number of reasons despite sometimes many shortcomings. The
> > problem with Microsofts handling of Foldershare thus far is that there are
> > lots of ideas in the cloud about where MS wants to go but no-one has had
> > their feet nailed to the floor to deliver real solutions. All but Groove are
> > in Beta (there must be a law against endless Beta's) and Groove just isn't
> > right for large numbers of files.
> > I think we can comfortably say that there are thousands of users who would
> > be prepared to pay for a limit removed Foldershare at the very least. A large
> > percentage I'm sure would pay for a self-hosted/server version. There are
> > other options out there who are catching up but not quite there yet. BeInSync
> > comes close except its horrible local database arrangement. Syncing.net is ok
> > if a little immature and sugarsync have fallen into the foolish "I want your
> > data hosted on our servers" approach otherwise is close to being a hot
> > contender.
> > Being both a businessman and someone who has been in some of the deepest
> > technical IT trenches, there is an easy business model which is both good for
> > MS & us, the people who need the enhancements:
> > - Pay for licenses for numbers of files sync'd or total GB (thus more than
> > 10,000 files supported)
> > - Add run as service feature, ACL transfer (pro version?), support for W2K3
> > - Release a server version for the hosted part to enable private sharing
> > within an organisation
> > Windows Live feels like the original MSN (pre IE!) - its a bit all over the
> > place. Instead of creating the vision then trying to drop bits of
> > functionality in, why not use the previously successful approach of enhance
> > and release products and collapse them together when established (think
> > Win3.11 -> Win95......Vista - more and more proven add-ons integrated over
> > time).
> > Someone once asked me "how do you eat an elephant?" The answer: "one bite at
> > a time". Have a grand vision but also take bites before things go bad.
> > Perhaps not the usual post, nor the most technical - I personally feel
> > dragged along and I'm actively seeking alternatives. Microsoft - you can make
> > a difference and a profit easily, please get a grip.
> > yours faithfully,
> > simon