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Old 11-27-2008   #11 (permalink)
Anthony R. Gold


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:10:25 -0800, "artfudd" <nobodyhome@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

> "Anton Katz [MSFT]" <katz.anton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:78491672-80B5-44FD-A2A4-7C209EE2BF47@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> - More folders and files - sync up to 20 folders with 20,000 files
>> each.
Quote:

> So are "libraries" the same as "folders" or two different things since
> you use both in the same post: "sync up to 20 folders with 20,000
> files each" -- "synchronization for up to 20 libraries and 20,000
> files" -- makes me wonder.. again.. whether in order to be hired at MS
> you have to pass a course in 'confusion' first... LOL
I agree that Anton using the word "folders" in place of "libraries" in the
announcement of Sync was mistaken and misleading.

Tony

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Old 12-01-2008   #12 (permalink)
Brandon Stone


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

Anton Katz [MSFT] wrote:
Quote:

> Dear FolderShare friends,
>
> We want to let you know what's next for FolderShare, and to make you
> aware of some important upcoming changes.
>
> In December, we will release a new product called Windows Live Sync. You
> can think of it as FolderShare 2.0. It's going to look familiar and
> offer the same great features, plus:
>
> - More folders and files - sync up to 20 folders with 20,000 files each.
> - Integration with Windows Live ID - no more extra sign-in stuff to
> remember.
> - Integration with the Recyle Bin - no more separate Trash folder to
> fiddle with.
> - New client versions for both Windows and Mac.
> - Unicode support - sync files in other languages.
>
> A huge part of Sync's success story depends on FolderShare users like
> you. When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement. That means
> your FolderShare software will stop working and will ask you to upgrade
> to Sync. Once you do, Sync will automatically rebuild your personal
> folders. We expect a lot of new users when Sync is released, so if you
> can't sign in right away, please give it a little time.
>
> Here's the part you need to pay attention to: Sync will not be able to
> rebuild your shared libraries. If you have a lot of shared libraries,
> you should hop over to the FolderShare website while it's still
> available and copy all that information. You'll need it to rebuild your
> shared libraries in Sync.
>
> You should also note that the Professional option is being retired with
> the FolderShare name. Sync has a single offer, which provides free
> synchronization for up to 20 libraries and 20,000 files. We'll be
> working to raise those numbers as our service grows.
>
> Thanks for being a FolderShare user! We're excited about delivering an
> even better file-synchronization experience to customers like you. We
> hope you'll come along as we move forward with Windows Live Sync.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Windows Live Sync (formerly FolderShare) team

but where the hell is the updated mac client you been promising for last
couple of years?
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Old 12-02-2008   #13 (permalink)
altaskibum


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

I've got to say that I'm a little surprised about the excitement about
this announcement. As a FS user since the very beginning - and an
original paying "Professional" subscriber before Microsoft bought the
product and team, I mostly have to agree that the "progress" has been
to dumb down a great and flawless product.

I've got many of the same concerns already outlined and not yet
answered - when is this happening, how much warning, folders versus
libraries, live sync v mesh, etc. As a grandfathered "Professional"
license, the loss of the 50 library/50,000 file limits is a huge
disappointment as I use several libraries with well over 20,000 files.
I'd gladly pay again for an upgraded plan but to be forced backward
seems so unfair and silly.

I hope this transition works but if not, I hope someone will post a
really great survey of the available competitors out there.
Unfortunately it seems like FS has always been the best and remains so
(and I'm a huge fan - don't get me wrong - and have been since Day 1)
so that there are no great answers out there to replicate the "old" FS
among the usual suspects of BeInSync, SugarSync, PowerFolder, etc.

I also have to say that the tone of the message to suggest that
existing users might have to just "get in line" if demand is as high
as MS expects is really off-putting given the number of us who count
on this as a mission-critical product in our day-to-day operations at
this point. It's bad when the servers are down or work is being done
that disrupts the service but to be told we might have difficulty
transitioning on a reasonable schedule at an otherwise already busy
time of year is not what I'd call client friendly.

I applaud the original FS team and work and hope that this "upgrade"
which in my case and that of any other old Professional users is
definitely a "downgrade" ends up being a good thing.

Josh
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Old 12-02-2008   #14 (permalink)
Michael Vogel


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

Hi!

On 19.11.2008 22:16 Uhr, Anton Katz [MSFT] wrote:
Quote:

> When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement. That means
> your FolderShare software will stop working and will ask you to upgrade
> to Sync. Once you do, Sync will automatically rebuild your personal
> folders. We expect a lot of new users when Sync is released, so if you
> can't sign in right away, please give it a little time.
Does this mean that there isn't any transition period? Bad ...
Quote:

> Here's the part you need to pay attention to: Sync will not be able to
> rebuild your shared libraries. If you have a lot of shared libraries,
> you should hop over to the FolderShare website while it's still
> available and copy all that information. You'll need it to rebuild your
> shared libraries in Sync.
So this means that I have to start from scratch?

I have several machines installed with foldershare to which I'm not
having access at any time.
Quote:

> You should also note that the Professional option is being retired with
> the FolderShare name. Sync has a single offer, which provides free
> synchronization for up to 20 libraries and 20,000 files. We'll be
> working to raise those numbers as our service grows.
I guess it will come like the long proposed Mac client came?

BTW: Will a Mac client be released at the same time? And which quality
will it have? Will it be as "good" as the Mesh client - which means that
it doesn't even work?

Michael
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Old 12-03-2008   #15 (permalink)
marsh


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

On Nov 19, 4:16*pm, "Anton Katz [MSFT]" <katz.an...@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

> In December, we will release a new product called Windows Live Sync.
This is much less ambiguous than the email, which I found confusing
when it said:
Quote:

> [via email] In December, we plan to announce a product called Windows Live Sync.
Back to the post in the group:
Quote:

> When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement. That means your
> FolderShare software will stop working and will ask you to upgrade to Sync.
> Once you do, Sync will automatically rebuild your personal folders. We
> expect a lot of new users when Sync is released, so if you can't sign in
> right away, please give it a little time.
If you expect a crush of users, then why are you retiring FS when Sync
is released? Why not have a month-long window where FS continues to
work, but people can opt to install Sync during that time. Then send
out staggered emails prompting users to upgrade now so that the
migration is somewhat managed.
Quote:

> Here's the part you need to pay attention to: Sync will not be able to
> rebuild your shared libraries. If you have a lot of shared libraries, you
> should hop over to the FolderShare website while it's still available and
> copy all that information. You'll need it to rebuild your shared libraries
> in Sync.
That's somewhat helpful, but you haven't explained what I need to
copy. By reading this thread I understand that you mean to write down
who has access to which shared libraries, but it may also mean take
note of the locations of any shared libraries you don't own (or risk
duplicating data), no?

Maybe it is me that is being obtuse, but your communication of a major
announcement could have been better IMHO.
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Old 12-08-2008   #16 (permalink)
Serge De Troyer


 
 

RE: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

Hello,

I am using Foldershare, and I nam VERY satisfied for the use I need. I also
installed that solution to some customer's.
Does a GOOD reliable beta version (or already the final version, as we are
in December, when LiveSync should be released) exist, so that I can see how
everything will work, react (swith from Foldershare) before I have to upgrade
my customer's sites?

"Anton Katz [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:

> Dear FolderShare friends,
>
> We want to let you know what's next for FolderShare, and to make you aware
> of some important upcoming changes.
>
> In December, we will release a new product called Windows Live Sync. You can
> think of it as FolderShare 2.0. It's going to look familiar and offer the
> same great features, plus:
>
> - More folders and files - sync up to 20 folders with 20,000 files each.
> - Integration with Windows Live ID - no more extra sign-in stuff to
> remember.
> - Integration with the Recyle Bin - no more separate Trash folder to fiddle
> with.
> - New client versions for both Windows and Mac.
> - Unicode support - sync files in other languages.
>
> A huge part of Sync's success story depends on FolderShare users like you.
> When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement. That means your
> FolderShare software will stop working and will ask you to upgrade to Sync.
> Once you do, Sync will automatically rebuild your personal folders. We
> expect a lot of new users when Sync is released, so if you can't sign in
> right away, please give it a little time.
>
> Here's the part you need to pay attention to: Sync will not be able to
> rebuild your shared libraries. If you have a lot of shared libraries, you
> should hop over to the FolderShare website while it's still available and
> copy all that information. You'll need it to rebuild your shared libraries
> in Sync.
>
> You should also note that the Professional option is being retired with the
> FolderShare name. Sync has a single offer, which provides free
> synchronization for up to 20 libraries and 20,000 files. We'll be working to
> raise those numbers as our service grows.
>
> Thanks for being a FolderShare user! We're excited about delivering an even
> better file-synchronization experience to customers like you. We hope you'll
> come along as we move forward with Windows Live Sync.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Windows Live Sync (formerly FolderShare) team
>
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Old 12-10-2008   #17 (permalink)
Brandon Stone


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

and of course answers as to the mac version go unanswered as always,
leave it to microsoft to take a perfectly functioning piece of software
that works well on macs, botch it up really good, then delay, and
delay, and delay, and ignore requests as to when a fixed version will
be released. sorry if I seem rather negative about this but I've sat
quietly waiting on the new mac client for well over a year now while
watching new version after new version released for windows. my
patience has reached an end. I have swapped to dropbox, perhaps I'll
return if and when microsoft decides to support the mac end of the
foldershare product once again

Brandon Stone wrote:
Quote:

> Anton Katz [MSFT] wrote:
Quote:

>> Dear FolderShare friends,
>>
>> We want to let you know what's next for FolderShare, and to make you
>> aware of some important upcoming changes.
>>
>> In December, we will release a new product called Windows Live Sync.
>> You can think of it as FolderShare 2.0. It's going to look familiar
>> and offer the same great features, plus:
>>
>> - More folders and files - sync up to 20 folders with 20,000 files each.
>> - Integration with Windows Live ID - no more extra sign-in stuff to
>> remember.
>> - Integration with the Recyle Bin - no more separate Trash folder to
>> fiddle with.
>> - New client versions for both Windows and Mac.
>> - Unicode support - sync files in other languages.
>>
>> A huge part of Sync's success story depends on FolderShare users like
>> you. When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement. That means
>> your FolderShare software will stop working and will ask you to
>> upgrade to Sync. Once you do, Sync will automatically rebuild your
>> personal folders. We expect a lot of new users when Sync is released,
>> so if you can't sign in right away, please give it a little time.
>>
>> Here's the part you need to pay attention to: Sync will not be able to
>> rebuild your shared libraries. If you have a lot of shared libraries,
>> you should hop over to the FolderShare website while it's still
>> available and copy all that information. You'll need it to rebuild
>> your shared libraries in Sync.
>>
>> You should also note that the Professional option is being retired
>> with the FolderShare name. Sync has a single offer, which provides
>> free synchronization for up to 20 libraries and 20,000 files. We'll be
>> working to raise those numbers as our service grows.
>>
>> Thanks for being a FolderShare user! We're excited about delivering an
>> even better file-synchronization experience to customers like you. We
>> hope you'll come along as we move forward with Windows Live Sync.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> The Windows Live Sync (formerly FolderShare) team
>
>
> but where the hell is the updated mac client you been promising for last
> couple of years?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-12-2008   #18 (permalink)
Shavinder Multani


 
 

RE: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

I am having no luck using Windows Live Sync on Mac. It complains about the
version being too old and ask me to get a new one which is really I
downloaded.

I will appreciate any help.

Thanks.

Shavinder

"Anton Katz [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:

> Dear FolderShare friends,
>
> We want to let you know what's next for FolderShare, and to make you aware
> of some important upcoming changes.
>
> In December, we will release a new product called Windows Live Sync. You can
> think of it as FolderShare 2.0. It's going to look familiar and offer the
> same great features, plus:
>
> - More folders and files - sync up to 20 folders with 20,000 files each.
> - Integration with Windows Live ID - no more extra sign-in stuff to
> remember.
> - Integration with the Recyle Bin - no more separate Trash folder to fiddle
> with.
> - New client versions for both Windows and Mac.
> - Unicode support - sync files in other languages.
>
> A huge part of Sync's success story depends on FolderShare users like you.
> When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement. That means your
> FolderShare software will stop working and will ask you to upgrade to Sync.
> Once you do, Sync will automatically rebuild your personal folders. We
> expect a lot of new users when Sync is released, so if you can't sign in
> right away, please give it a little time.
>
> Here's the part you need to pay attention to: Sync will not be able to
> rebuild your shared libraries. If you have a lot of shared libraries, you
> should hop over to the FolderShare website while it's still available and
> copy all that information. You'll need it to rebuild your shared libraries
> in Sync.
>
> You should also note that the Professional option is being retired with the
> FolderShare name. Sync has a single offer, which provides free
> synchronization for up to 20 libraries and 20,000 files. We'll be working to
> raise those numbers as our service grows.
>
> Thanks for being a FolderShare user! We're excited about delivering an even
> better file-synchronization experience to customers like you. We hope you'll
> come along as we move forward with Windows Live Sync.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Windows Live Sync (formerly FolderShare) team
>
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Old 12-12-2008   #19 (permalink)
Anthony R. Gold


 
 

Re: Windows Live Sync replacing FolderShare: What you need to know

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:58:20 -0800, "Francisco Garcia-Ascanio [MSFT]"
<Francisco.Garcia@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:u7m9i4dsok4c4atrrtben0om4jk63iovrp@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:16:56 -0800, "Anton Katz [MSFT]"
>> <katz.anton@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> When Sync releases, FolderShare goes into retirement.
>>
>> No overlap, no phasing, no backup in case Sync has problems under load?
>>
>> This sounds more like how a videogame or some other piece of entertainment
>> froth might be released rather than a serious service that some businesses
>> have come to rely on.
>>
>> Tony
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Thanks for your feedback. When we release the new client we'll help you
> migrate over your personal libraries to the service so you can get back to
> synchronizing your files as quickly as possible. We've also been heavily
> testing the new service to make sure it can handle our current user base.
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
No questions.

Tony
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Old 12-12-2008   #20 (permalink)
Leigh Webber


 
 

Force synchronization

I am using Windows Live Synch, but my folder is not synchronized. It shows about 424 files, but there are actually 480 files in the original folder. How do I force it to synchronize?
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