Vista - POP3. Can we access Windows Live Hotmail or not?

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Noel

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ecEL2cRKIHA.748@xxxxxxThanks. I've set Windows Live Mail up with HTTP and its fine.
First time of used Microsoft for mail (server) for ages. They should update
their FAQs to remove refs to POP3 if its not being supported.
And I guess that explains them pushing the Outlook Connector for O/L itself.
Doesn't sound like very joined up planning to me.

One question. With POP you can d/l and remove mail from the server. I
guess with O/L connector and HTTP you cannot do this.
So the push is to keep you mail at the server.

Cheers
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Grumps

>>> Microsoft has announced that they will introduce POP3 for HotmailI am somewhat surprised (although I guess I shouldn't be) about the state of
Microsoft's mail providing services.
I subscribe to Windows Live Hotmail and try to configure POP3 (as defined in
their FAQs) then find out its not supported (or doesn't work). Then find
that HTTP and Outlook Connector are being pushed and now, apparently, POP3
is coming back...
Microsoft. What's going on?

Musicrab wrote...That's why you have "Storage folders" ([View >] Layout > Folder pane > Show
Storage folders). If you move a message from your Hotmail inbox to a Storage
folder (roll your own, if you like), it will be removed from the server by
the sync process.

You use POP3 to access mail from other - non-HTTP servers - like those
provided by your ISP. IMAP enables synchronization with IMAP-enabled
servers, like Exchange and (I understand a recent innovation) Gmail. You
can, by using a third-party freeware utility, use POP3 to access HTTP
servers like Hotmail and Yahoo. Some people do this in order to be able to
apply message rules to incoming mail, to divert it to subject folders, for
example. Rules don't work with HTTP accounts.

[Why so grumpy?]
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Noel

Musicrab wrote...I doubt MS will answer you here, so here goes...

Microsoft wanted to do away with POP3 access for millions of Hotmail
subscribers because of the way it works. When the competition (like Gmail)
started offering almost unlimited storage on their mail servers, MS felt
they had to follow suit with first 2GB, then 5GB and now, for paid accounts,
10GB. A POP3 client starts every session by asking the server for a complete
listing of every message in the mailbox. It then compares the list with what
it has already downloaded and asks for the rest. Imagine the traffic that
this would generate if every account had 2GB of stored messages. So they
devised DeltaSync, which remembers when the last synchronization took place
and then only offers messages received since then to the client. A much more
efficient way of conducting traffic between client and server where large
mailboxes are involved.

By re-establishing POP3 access, MS are again bowing to popular pressure from
those who want to conduct their email messaging from a local client rather
than on the web and who are more interested in downloading, rather than
synchronizing, their messages.
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Noel
[Sorry about the misconfigured quoting - not my fault]

> That's why you have "Storage folders" ([View >] Layout > Folder pane > ShowAhh I see...goes off to read the FAQs...
Not to bad today thanks. Cheers!
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Ian

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:50:06 -0800 (PST), Tyrenta wrote:
I don't think that is what he is saying. Does Windows Live Mail not include
a "Socket error"? Google draws blank on that error number.

I haven't used Google POP3 in a while. I originally cofigured Google to
forward email to a local account. I set up a POP3 account, once, in WLM, and
it worked without a hitch. However, now that Google allows IMAP access, I
have changed to using Google as an IMAP account in WLM.

Removing a POP3 account from WLM also removes the associated local message
store, so beware, you will lose locally stored email which hasn't been moved
to folders under the Storage folder tree.

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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Not to mention the hundreds of thousands that retain and use MSn Explorer
that had pop3 access, then lost it with MSn 6 install and later, and
continue to pay $20-22/mo.
A return to what still remains as one of the common and global standard
might actually make sense(bottom line), familiarity, and maybe more
important use of is within many others(using different isps) behavioral
skill base.

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...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail



Musicrab wrote...