I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of checking for
mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and windows
live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it to
receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have clicked
to close the program.

Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
control over it.

Hi, Aries.

Why don't you just uncheck that box?

Tools | Options | General tab: Check for new messages every ___ minute(s)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx

> I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of checking
> for
> mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and windows
> live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it to
> receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have
> clicked
> to close the program.
>
> Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
> control over it.

The box IS unchecked. That's why I am asking.... sorry I didn't make that
clear in the beginning.

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Aries.
>
> Why don't you just uncheck that box?
>
> Tools | Options | General tab: Check for new messages every ___ minute(s)
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@xxxxxx
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx

> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of checking
> > for
> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and windows
> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it to
> > receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have
> > clicked
> > to close the program.
> >
> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
> > control over it.

>

so, if you have it set to 0, and the send/receive option unchecked, how
often are you seeing wlm go looking for mail?

"aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BDCB2B28-306E-4E8F-AA1E-2CDE13A6FF1A@xxxxxx

> The box IS unchecked. That's why I am asking.... sorry I didn't make
> that
> clear in the beginning.
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>

>> Hi, Aries.
>>
>> Why don't you just uncheck that box?
>>
>> Tools | Options | General tab: Check for new messages every ___
>> minute(s)
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@xxxxxx
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
>>
>> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx

>> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of
>> > checking
>> > for
>> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and
>> > windows
>> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it
>> > to
>> > receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have
>> > clicked
>> > to close the program.
>> >
>> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
>> > control over it.

>>

It won't set to zero, but I had it on 30 and then unchecked the box. I can't
tell you how often it checks exactly but I know just about every time I close
the program, I notice that it checks. Also if I close it just before I shut
down, it will say "do you want to abort the download" sometimes. In between
times, I can only say often enough to warrant concern.

Interestingly enough, I thought, maybe unchecking isn't enough so I went and
changed it to the max, which is 480, and then unchecked it again. Closed,
shut down, then when I came back on and opened it up to answer this question,
lo and behold it is set at 30 again.

The only thing I can say for all of this is that there is really no control
over the program. (Sorry my mistake for saying zero, I meant unchecked when
I first wrote the question. The lowest is 1. )

Must be some kind of log you can access to see what it is doing. (?)

Have a nice evening/day/whatever.

THANKS FOR RESPONDING>

"Highspar" wrote:

> so, if you have it set to 0, and the send/receive option unchecked, how
> often are you seeing wlm go looking for mail?
>
> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:BDCB2B28-306E-4E8F-AA1E-2CDE13A6FF1A@xxxxxx

> > The box IS unchecked. That's why I am asking.... sorry I didn't make
> > that
> > clear in the beginning.
> >
> > "R. C. White" wrote:
> >

> >> Hi, Aries.
> >>
> >> Why don't you just uncheck that box?
> >>
> >> Tools | Options | General tab: Check for new messages every ___
> >> minute(s)
> >>
> >> RC
> >> --
> >> R. C. White, CPA
> >> San Marcos, TX
> >> rc@xxxxxx
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
> >>
> >> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx
> >> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of
> >> > checking
> >> > for
> >> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and
> >> > windows
> >> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it
> >> > to
> >> > receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have
> >> > clicked
> >> > to close the program.
> >> >
> >> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
> >> > control over it.
> >>

You have to enable logging at Options > Advanced > Maintenance >
Troubleshooting. The log is called WindowsLiveMail.log and lives in the root
of your Store folder (same page).
Do you have Options > General > Send and receive messages at startup
selected? Do you see the same behaviour if it is unchecked?
--
Noel

"aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:79A622F2-45BF-4061-BD00-904B61BB4AB8@xxxxxx

> It won't set to zero, but I had it on 30 and then unchecked the box. I
> can't
> tell you how often it checks exactly but I know just about every time I
> close
> the program, I notice that it checks. Also if I close it just before I
> shut
> down, it will say "do you want to abort the download" sometimes. In
> between
> times, I can only say often enough to warrant concern.
>
> Interestingly enough, I thought, maybe unchecking isn't enough so I went
> and
> changed it to the max, which is 480, and then unchecked it again. Closed,
> shut down, then when I came back on and opened it up to answer this
> question,
> lo and behold it is set at 30 again.
>
> The only thing I can say for all of this is that there is really no
> control
> over the program. (Sorry my mistake for saying zero, I meant unchecked
> when
> I first wrote the question. The lowest is 1. )
>
> Must be some kind of log you can access to see what it is doing. (?)
>
> Have a nice evening/day/whatever.
>
> THANKS FOR RESPONDING>
>
> "Highspar" wrote:
>

>> so, if you have it set to 0, and the send/receive option unchecked, how
>> often are you seeing wlm go looking for mail?
>>
>> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:BDCB2B28-306E-4E8F-AA1E-2CDE13A6FF1A@xxxxxx

>> > The box IS unchecked. That's why I am asking.... sorry I didn't make
>> > that
>> > clear in the beginning.
>> >
>> > "R. C. White" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Aries.
>> >>
>> >> Why don't you just uncheck that box?
>> >>
>> >> Tools | Options | General tab: Check for new messages every ___
>> >> minute(s)
>> >>
>> >> RC
>> >> --
>> >> R. C. White, CPA
>> >> San Marcos, TX
>> >> rc@xxxxxx
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
>> >>
>> >> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx
>> >> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of
>> >> > checking
>> >> > for
>> >> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and
>> >> > windows
>> >> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told
>> >> > it
>> >> > to
>> >> > receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have
>> >> > clicked
>> >> > to close the program.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have
>> >> > some
>> >> > control over it.
>> >>

OK. Now I have it set to create a log.

Second question - No I have it unchecked, I have for quite some time now. I
don't think I've ever noticed it checking on startup, only in between times,
after I check (receive all) for mail, and after I (attempted to) close the
program.

Now that it is logging, I guess I will wait some time and then look at the
log after awhile. Although I might not be able to understand how to make
sense of it.

THANKS for your help !

"Ildhund" wrote:

> You have to enable logging at Options > Advanced > Maintenance >
> Troubleshooting. The log is called WindowsLiveMail.log and lives in the root
> of your Store folder (same page).
> Do you have Options > General > Send and receive messages at startup
> selected? Do you see the same behaviour if it is unchecked?
> --
> Noel
>
> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:79A622F2-45BF-4061-BD00-904B61BB4AB8@xxxxxx

> > It won't set to zero, but I had it on 30 and then unchecked the box. I
> > can't
> > tell you how often it checks exactly but I know just about every time I
> > close
> > the program, I notice that it checks. Also if I close it just before I
> > shut
> > down, it will say "do you want to abort the download" sometimes. In
> > between
> > times, I can only say often enough to warrant concern.
> >
> > Interestingly enough, I thought, maybe unchecking isn't enough so I went
> > and
> > changed it to the max, which is 480, and then unchecked it again. Closed,
> > shut down, then when I came back on and opened it up to answer this
> > question,
> > lo and behold it is set at 30 again.
> >
> > The only thing I can say for all of this is that there is really no
> > control
> > over the program. (Sorry my mistake for saying zero, I meant unchecked
> > when
> > I first wrote the question. The lowest is 1. )
> >
> > Must be some kind of log you can access to see what it is doing. (?)
> >
> > Have a nice evening/day/whatever.
> >
> > THANKS FOR RESPONDING>
> >
> > "Highspar" wrote:
> >

> >> so, if you have it set to 0, and the send/receive option unchecked, how
> >> often are you seeing wlm go looking for mail?
> >>
> >> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:BDCB2B28-306E-4E8F-AA1E-2CDE13A6FF1A@xxxxxx
> >> > The box IS unchecked. That's why I am asking.... sorry I didn't make
> >> > that
> >> > clear in the beginning.
> >> >
> >> > "R. C. White" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi, Aries.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why don't you just uncheck that box?
> >> >>
> >> >> Tools | Options | General tab: Check for new messages every ___
> >> >> minute(s)
> >> >>
> >> >> RC
> >> >> --
> >> >> R. C. White, CPA
> >> >> San Marcos, TX
> >> >> rc@xxxxxx
> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> >> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
> >> >>
> >> >> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx
> >> >> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of
> >> >> > checking
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and
> >> >> > windows
> >> >> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > receive all. 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have
> >> >> > clicked
> >> >> > to close the program.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have
> >> >> > some
> >> >> > control over it.
> >> >>

>

"aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx

> I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of checking for
> mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and windows
> live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it to
> receive all.

Wouldn't it have to do it then? Unless you uncheck (in Accounts, Properties)
Include the account when checking for new messages

Is another time when you send a message?
Are you using a Send button to do that or Tools,...Send All?

> 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have clicked
> to close the program.

Interesting! Have you tried activating troubleshooting logging
to see if anything is recorded for this event?

OE used to have a message warning you if you had anything left
in your Outbox before closing. Is there something stuck in your Outbox?

>
> Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
> control over it.

Not me but I only do newsgroups with WLM.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

OK. Let me explain. I have AOL, Comcast, hotmail and windows live mail
emails that I check periodically (manually). So after the WLM has FINISHED
checking all of these when I do "receive all", then I see the little blue
ball at the bottom right hand corner saying "connecting". So I click on it,
and lo and behold the popup window shows that it is starting over again, but
this time (always) with the Comcast first, then the hotmail and live mail.
So I figure it must be a bug in the program, since I haven't given it a
command to do that. I can't honestly say that it happens every single time
(I used to have it set for 30 minutes, or whatever, then I unchecked the
"check messages every ... minutes " box) that I manually "receive all", but
it happens often enough to get my attention. It's been happening for quite
some time but just tonight I felt like I wanted to spend time typing all of
this stuff in to share with y'all.



"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." --- Thomas Jefferson



"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx

> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of checking for
> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and windows
> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it to
> > receive all.

>
> Wouldn't it have to do it then? Unless you uncheck (in Accounts, Properties)
> Include the account when checking for new messages
>
> Is another time when you send a message?
> Are you using a Send button to do that or Tools,...Send All?
>
>

> > 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have clicked
> > to close the program.

>
>
> Interesting! Have you tried activating troubleshooting logging
> to see if anything is recorded for this event?
>
> OE used to have a message warning you if you had anything left
> in your Outbox before closing. Is there something stuck in your Outbox?
>
>

> >
> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
> > control over it.

>
>
> Not me but I only do newsgroups with WLM.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
>

Nothing is in the outbox.

I only just tonight activated the "logging" feature.

We'll see what comes out of that, if anything.

Other than this, WLM is a great program!

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "aries" <aries@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news73DA430-8EBE-46AA-9D12-D87801271AF7@xxxxxx

> > I want to know why even though I have 0 minutes for frequency of checking for
> > mail, my WLM routinely checks for all comcast.net and hotmail and windows
> > live mail periodically. Sometimes it does it just after I have told it to
> > receive all.

>
> Wouldn't it have to do it then? Unless you uncheck (in Accounts, Properties)
> Include the account when checking for new messages
>
> Is another time when you send a message?
> Are you using a Send button to do that or Tools,...Send All?
>
>

> > 99% of the time I catch it doing it just after I have clicked
> > to close the program.

>
>
> Interesting! Have you tried activating troubleshooting logging
> to see if anything is recorded for this event?
>
> OE used to have a message warning you if you had anything left
> in your Outbox before closing. Is there something stuck in your Outbox?
>
>

> >
> > Is anyone else having this experience? It would be nice to have some
> > control over it.

>
>
> Not me but I only do newsgroups with WLM.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
>