Vista - spam filtering on folders

Hi - is there a problem with the spam filter operating on user made folders?

In Outlook Express I had a number of folders, with filter rules to divert
all mail from, say Ben into a folder called Ben's mail.

When I installed WLM it recreated my folders, and the correct mail goes into
them, but I'm also seeing spam going in - and when I try to add sender or
domain to the blocked list, it doesn't work, and the mail isn't deleted
either at that stage.

Thanks

"JIP" <fred@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eC5rKHbOIHA.4740@xxxxxxJunk mail is a separate system in WLM. Go Message menu Junk Mail to set it
up. It will not transfer.

>> Hi - is there a problem with the spam filter operating on user madeSorry, could you please elaborate.

I guess I should have said that with mail that goes into the default inbox
of my email account, i.e. anything that isn't filtered into one of my custom
folders, the spam/junk filter is working quite well. With anything that gets
through there, if I right click on it and select add to blocked senders,
then it is automatically deleted. All well and good.

But with spam that is diverted into my custom folders, going through the
same process doesn't lead to the message being deleted automatically.

So I'm trying to understand why that is. Is there something wrong with my
set up, or is that a feature of the programme?

When you say "Go Message menu Junk Mail to set it up. It will not
transfer" - I don't follow - I can't see a "Message" menu, or do you mean
the menu that appears when I right click on a message?

Cheers

I am also getting this spam in my mail. Specifically IPhone Promotion CA ads.
Everytime I recieve one I select delete and block but they just keep coming
back. I just switched from Hotmail to WLM and hotmail was blocking these
emails but now WLM is allowing them to go into my inbox. I have already tried
changing my junkmail settings and that doesnt seem to work. I am not willing
to do the high security where I can only recieve mail from my contacts,
because that just isnt going to work for me. Im sure that Microsoft should be
able to come up with a junk mail blocker a little better than this. Right? If
this isnt fixed soon.. its back to hotmail for me!

Have you checked the Blocked Senders list (Tools->Safety options...->Blocked Senders [tab] to see if the offending address is listed there? If not, add it manually. Also check your Safe Senders list to be sure it hasn't been added to that list accidently, although adding an address to the Blocked Senders list should remove it from the Safe Senders list and vice versa.
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Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
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"KKT" <KKT@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:355DBD10-9810-4687-8116-F89121797E59@xxxxxx

"Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:41A9BA48-8755-48EE-9447-4A4DDE82D513@xxxxxxThanks for the reply

Yes, have checked. Experience since my original post is that the spam filter
doesn't operate on mail that is diverted by message rules into user folders.
And when you select to add spam in those folders to the blocked senders list
it is added (which I hadn't realised before), but the message itself isn't
then deleted automatically. You have to delete it manually.

The problem is that I find some spam messages target particular email
accounts, so if I direct mail to those accounts into my user folders, the
spam filter doesn't check them, so even though they come from a blocked
sender, they get through.

For what it's worth, before I moved to WLM Desktop I used Outlook Express
and paid for the Cloudmark spam filter, which worked brilliantly, until
their latest upgrade, which suddenly stopped working on user folders - which
they admitted and are still trying to resolve.

Is there anywhere to send official feedback about WLM Desktop that you know
of, to make sure they know this is an issue? I think there are so many
advantages to WLM compared to Outlook Express that I'm going to stick with
it now, but it would be nice to get these niggles resolved.

Cheers

I don't have any trouble with this. All mail that I receive via POP3 is diverted into user folders under the default account. The
spam filter works exactly as I expect it to on the Low setting. If you're diverting incoming mail to Storage folders, it may be that
the diversion is happening before the spam filter has a chance to kick in. Do your rules end with 'Stop processing more rules'?

I can see no reason to use Storage folders for anything other than HTTP mail (in order to keep a local copy of a message that is not
saved on the server), and if it is causing you problems as you describe, then try using folders set up within your accounts.
(They're also easier to get at - mine are at the top of the Folder pane tree.) As I say, it works fine for me...
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Noel

"JIP" <fred@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uvIzbpBPIHA.5264@xxxxxx

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OKqmjIDPIHA.4136@xxxxxxAh - I think I've misunderstood this - my previous user folders from Outlook
Express were created in WLMD when I installed it, and the message rules were
automatically copied over as well to point at those locations. I'll try what
you describe - create the same folders under the default account heading.
Thanks for the reply.