Vista - Live Mail indexing in Windows Desktop Search 3.1

03-01-2008

Ok....I finally figured it out. For some reason, when I decided to change my
mail store in Windows Live Mail to C:\Email (a folder I created for the
purpose) suddenly WDS began to search my emails perfectly. I had the folders
selected for indexing in their previous location, so I can't explain why it
would make any difference, but it did. The results in the WDS interface have
a long meaningless file name which would be depressing, but when searching
from within Windows Live Mail, it searches beautifully, including text from
the message body AND pdf attachments. I spent hours today trying to get this
to work and was about to concluded that it was impossible. Now it works
perfectly!

"DLB" wrote:

Quote:

> I too am trying to get WDS 3.01 to index my Windows Live Mail. I have WDS
> set to index the Windows Live Mail Folders. And the .eml settings are set to
> index contents. I've tried everything I've heard suggested. I even
> reformatted my computer and reinstalled Windows with still no success.
>
> Are some people actually getting WDS to index the contents of their emails?
> I'd like to hear someone say that they have definitely gotten search results
> that had to come from the text within the email, not just the subject.
>
> I can't get any results at all!!! I can search the subject and the To/From
> fields from within Windows Live Mail, but if I type a word that is in the
> message body of an email, I get no results. And yes, I've given it plenty of
> time and waited until it said it was done.
>
>
>
> "wyup" wrote:
>

Quote:

> > Hi again,
> >
> > After checking again I've forgot to say that I'm using Windows Live Mail as
> > my email client. Local help from WDS says it's only compatible with Outlook
> > 2007 and Outlook Express. However I made sure and added my WLM mail folder
> > and included the eml properties and content extension, but it won't give
> > result for any mail search, just other documents.
> >
> > I can search subjects from within Windows Live Mail, though, but it doesn't
> > seem to search email contents either, even after installing WDS 3.1 ,as it
> > prompted previously.
> > So I wonder whether WDS is useful to me since it does not search more that
> > it did before without it even from Windows Live Mail. Am I correct?
> >
> > thx again
> >
> > "Ildhund" wrote:
> >

Quote:

> > > First, please ensure that all the sehttp://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/postui.aspx?mid=dea7a750-4589-4d0b-a788-714f05bede15&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop&base=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx&bclr=ececec&fclr=000000&sxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/site.xml&stgxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/settings.xml&sdgloc=en-US&tt=1ttings are as they should be. Check that
> > > on the WDS Search options > Advanced > File types tab that the entries for
> > > eml and nws have Index properties and file contents selected. The Filter
> > > description should show C:\WINDOWS\system32\mimefilt.dll. If it doesn't, you
> > > should uninstall and reinstall WDS.
> > >
> > > Did you Rebuild your index after making changes to the settings? This would
> > > probably happen automatically, which is why I didn't mention it before.
> > >
> > > Try closing down WDS, rebooting and then restarting it.
> > >
> > > If it's still not working properly, it may be necessary to uninstall it
> > > using Add or remove programs and then reinstall it. If you still have the
> > > installer package (something like
> > > WindowsDesktopSearch-KB917013-V301-XP-x86-ENU.MSI), you can right-click on
> > > it and select Repair instead.
> > >
> > > In any case, you'll have to wait until WDS has finished indexing before
> > > getting reliable results, and that could take several hours. Please report
> > > back whatever happens, so others can benefit from your experience.
> > > --
> > > Noel
> > >
> > > "wyup" <wyup@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:7163B654-BE9A-4270-80CF-D8B6A0ECD9E0@xxxxxx
> > > > Hi, I've followed your indications and eveything is correct, except that
> > > > it
> > > > won't search text within email messages. It shows sender or subject
> > > > content,
> > > > but not the text itself. Is there a way to work? Thx.
> > > >
> > > > "Ildhund" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Works fine for me. Make sure your Store folder (Options > Advanced >
> > > >> Maintenance > Store folder button will tell you where it is) is marked
> > > >> for
> > > >> indexing (Right-click on the folder in Explorer, select Properties >
> > > >> General
> > > >> tab > Advanced button) and included in indexed locations in WDS (Click on
> > > >> the tray icon and select WDS Search options > Modify to select the Store
> > > >> folder). Check also that on the Advanced > File types tab, eml and nws
> > > >> files
> > > >> are included and the option to Index properties and file contents is
> > > >> selected. OK your way out, then go to bed.
> > > >>
> > > >> The default Store folder location (in %userprofile%\Local Settings) is by
> > > >> default excluded from the WDS index.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Noel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "first500" <first500@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > >> news:52260594-E471-42F1-B365-490A9ADF06CD@xxxxxx
> > > >> > Just installed Live Mail, but find that WDS still indexes (only) at
> > > >> > Outlook
> > > >> > Express emails. There seems to be no option in WDS to include LM in
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > email search.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Am I missing something? Does anyone know how to force WDS to index
> > > >> > emails
> > > >> > stored in Live Mail?
> > > >> > Help appreciated - ff
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >

03-02-2008

Well done DLB.

The first thing I did after installing WLMail was to move the Message Store to another partition, and WDS 3.01 has always worked well for me within WLMail on my XP system.

--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"DLB" <DLB@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:FD5D6534-9448-4152-B77B-6ABDC9319964@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Ok....I finally figured it out. For some reason, when I decided to change my
> mail store in Windows Live Mail to C:\Email (a folder I created for the
> purpose) suddenly WDS began to search my emails perfectly. I had the folders
> selected for indexing in their previous location, so I can't explain why it
> would make any difference, but it did. The results in the WDS interface have
> a long meaningless file name which would be depressing, but when searching
> from within Windows Live Mail, it searches beautifully, including text from
> the message body AND pdf attachments. I spent hours today trying to get this
> to work and was about to concluded that it was impossible. Now it works
> perfectly!
>
>
>
> "DLB" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> I too am trying to get WDS 3.01 to index my Windows Live Mail. I have WDS
>> set to index the Windows Live Mail Folders. And the .eml settings are set to
>> index contents. I've tried everything I've heard suggested. I even
>> reformatted my computer and reinstalled Windows with still no success.
>>
>> Are some people actually getting WDS to index the contents of their emails?
>> I'd like to hear someone say that they have definitely gotten search results
>> that had to come from the text within the email, not just the subject.
>>
>> I can't get any results at all!!! I can search the subject and the To/From
>> fields from within Windows Live Mail, but if I type a word that is in the
>> message body of an email, I get no results. And yes, I've given it plenty of
>> time and waited until it said it was done.
>>
>>
>>
>> "wyup" wrote:
>>

Quote:

>> > Hi again,
>> >
>> > After checking again I've forgot to say that I'm using Windows Live Mail as
>> > my email client. Local help from WDS says it's only compatible with Outlook
>> > 2007 and Outlook Express. However I made sure and added my WLM mail folder
>> > and included the eml properties and content extension, but it won't give
>> > result for any mail search, just other documents.
>> >
>> > I can search subjects from within Windows Live Mail, though, but it doesn't
>> > seem to search email contents either, even after installing WDS 3.1 ,as it
>> > prompted previously.
>> > So I wonder whether WDS is useful to me since it does not search more that
>> > it did before without it even from Windows Live Mail. Am I correct?
>> >
>> > thx again
>> >
>> > "Ildhund" wrote:
>> >
>> > > First, please ensure that all the sehttp://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/postui.aspx?mid=dea7a750-4589-4d0b-a788-714f05bede15&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop&base=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx&bclr=ececec&fclr=000000&sxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/site.xml&stgxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/settings.xml&sdgloc=en-US&tt=1ttings are as they should be. Check that
>> > > on the WDS Search options > Advanced > File types tab that the entries for
>> > > eml and nws have Index properties and file contents selected. The Filter
>> > > description should show C:\WINDOWS\system32\mimefilt.dll. If it doesn't, you
>> > > should uninstall and reinstall WDS.
>> > >
>> > > Did you Rebuild your index after making changes to the settings? This would
>> > > probably happen automatically, which is why I didn't mention it before.
>> > >
>> > > Try closing down WDS, rebooting and then restarting it.
>> > >
>> > > If it's still not working properly, it may be necessary to uninstall it
>> > > using Add or remove programs and then reinstall it. If you still have the
>> > > installer package (something like
>> > > WindowsDesktopSearch-KB917013-V301-XP-x86-ENU.MSI), you can right-click on
>> > > it and select Repair instead.
>> > >
>> > > In any case, you'll have to wait until WDS has finished indexing before
>> > > getting reliable results, and that could take several hours. Please report
>> > > back whatever happens, so others can benefit from your experience.
>> > > --
>> > > Noel
>> > >
>> > > "wyup" <wyup@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > > news:7163B654-BE9A-4270-80CF-D8B6A0ECD9E0@xxxxxx
>> > > > Hi, I've followed your indications and eveything is correct, except that
>> > > > it
>> > > > won't search text within email messages. It shows sender or subject
>> > > > content,
>> > > > but not the text itself. Is there a way to work? Thx.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Ildhund" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Works fine for me. Make sure your Store folder (Options > Advanced >
>> > > >> Maintenance > Store folder button will tell you where it is) is marked
>> > > >> for
>> > > >> indexing (Right-click on the folder in Explorer, select Properties >
>> > > >> General
>> > > >> tab > Advanced button) and included in indexed locations in WDS (Click on
>> > > >> the tray icon and select WDS Search options > Modify to select the Store
>> > > >> folder). Check also that on the Advanced > File types tab, eml and nws
>> > > >> files
>> > > >> are included and the option to Index properties and file contents is
>> > > >> selected. OK your way out, then go to bed.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The default Store folder location (in %userprofile%\Local Settings) is by
>> > > >> default excluded from the WDS index.
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> Noel
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "first500" <first500@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > > >> news:52260594-E471-42F1-B365-490A9ADF06CD@xxxxxx
>> > > >> > Just installed Live Mail, but find that WDS still indexes (only) at
>> > > >> > Outlook
>> > > >> > Express emails. There seems to be no option in WDS to include LM in
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > email search.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Am I missing something? Does anyone know how to force WDS to index
>> > > >> > emails
>> > > >> > stored in Live Mail?
>> > > >> > Help appreciated - ff
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > >

04-01-2008

The new Microsoft Search 4.0 for XP is available for download in

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

It is similar in appearence to WDS and seems to take over it. Haven't tested
it yet, but seems to integrate also with Windows Live Mail.

04-01-2008

"wyup" <diegohum@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OMTnq49kIHA.4196@xxxxxx

Quote:

> The new Microsoft Search 4.0 for XP is available for download in
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> It is similar in appearence to WDS and seems to take over it. Haven't
> tested it yet, but seems to integrate also with Windows Live Mail.

Hmm, still in beta...
and what is "client-to-client remote query to shared indexed locations" ?
Is it secure, or _as usual_? (see the corresponding GP settings...)

--PA

03-01-2008	#11 (permalink)
DLB n/a posts	Re: Live Mail indexing in Windows Desktop Search 3.1 Ok....I finally figured it out. For some reason, when I decided to change my mail store in Windows Live Mail to C:\Email (a folder I created for the purpose) suddenly WDS began to search my emails perfectly. I had the folders selected for indexing in their previous location, so I can't explain why it would make any difference, but it did. The results in the WDS interface have a long meaningless file name which would be depressing, but when searching from within Windows Live Mail, it searches beautifully, including text from the message body AND pdf attachments. I spent hours today trying to get this to work and was about to concluded that it was impossible. Now it works perfectly! "DLB" wrote: Quote: > I too am trying to get WDS 3.01 to index my Windows Live Mail. I have WDS > set to index the Windows Live Mail Folders. And the .eml settings are set to > index contents. I've tried everything I've heard suggested. I even > reformatted my computer and reinstalled Windows with still no success. > > Are some people actually getting WDS to index the contents of their emails? > I'd like to hear someone say that they have definitely gotten search results > that had to come from the text within the email, not just the subject. > > I can't get any results at all!!! I can search the subject and the To/From > fields from within Windows Live Mail, but if I type a word that is in the > message body of an email, I get no results. And yes, I've given it plenty of > time and waited until it said it was done. > > > > "wyup" wrote: > Quote: > > Hi again, > > > > After checking again I've forgot to say that I'm using Windows Live Mail as > > my email client. Local help from WDS says it's only compatible with Outlook > > 2007 and Outlook Express. However I made sure and added my WLM mail folder > > and included the eml properties and content extension, but it won't give > > result for any mail search, just other documents. > > > > I can search subjects from within Windows Live Mail, though, but it doesn't > > seem to search email contents either, even after installing WDS 3.1 ,as it > > prompted previously. > > So I wonder whether WDS is useful to me since it does not search more that > > it did before without it even from Windows Live Mail. Am I correct? > > > > thx again > > > > "Ildhund" wrote: > > Quote: > > > First, please ensure that all the sehttp://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/postui.aspx?mid=dea7a750-4589-4d0b-a788-714f05bede15&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop&base=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx&bclr=ececec&fclr=000000&sxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/site.xml&stgxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/settings.xml&sdgloc=en-US&tt=1ttings are as they should be. Check that > > > on the WDS Search options > Advanced > File types tab that the entries for > > > eml and nws have Index properties and file contents selected. The Filter > > > description should show C:\WINDOWS\system32\mimefilt.dll. If it doesn't, you > > > should uninstall and reinstall WDS. > > > > > > Did you Rebuild your index after making changes to the settings? This would > > > probably happen automatically, which is why I didn't mention it before. > > > > > > Try closing down WDS, rebooting and then restarting it. > > > > > > If it's still not working properly, it may be necessary to uninstall it > > > using Add or remove programs and then reinstall it. If you still have the > > > installer package (something like > > > WindowsDesktopSearch-KB917013-V301-XP-x86-ENU.MSI), you can right-click on > > > it and select Repair instead. > > > > > > In any case, you'll have to wait until WDS has finished indexing before > > > getting reliable results, and that could take several hours. Please report > > > back whatever happens, so others can benefit from your experience. > > > -- > > > Noel > > > > > > "wyup" <wyup@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > > news:7163B654-BE9A-4270-80CF-D8B6A0ECD9E0@xxxxxx > > > > Hi, I've followed your indications and eveything is correct, except that > > > > it > > > > won't search text within email messages. It shows sender or subject > > > > content, > > > > but not the text itself. Is there a way to work? Thx. > > > > > > > > "Ildhund" wrote: > > > > > > > >> Works fine for me. Make sure your Store folder (Options > Advanced > > > > >> Maintenance > Store folder button will tell you where it is) is marked > > > >> for > > > >> indexing (Right-click on the folder in Explorer, select Properties > > > > >> General > > > >> tab > Advanced button) and included in indexed locations in WDS (Click on > > > >> the tray icon and select WDS Search options > Modify to select the Store > > > >> folder). Check also that on the Advanced > File types tab, eml and nws > > > >> files > > > >> are included and the option to Index properties and file contents is > > > >> selected. OK your way out, then go to bed. > > > >> > > > >> The default Store folder location (in %userprofile%\Local Settings) is by > > > >> default excluded from the WDS index. > > > >> -- > > > >> Noel > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> "first500" <first500@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > > >> news:52260594-E471-42F1-B365-490A9ADF06CD@xxxxxx > > > >> > Just installed Live Mail, but find that WDS still indexes (only) at > > > >> > Outlook > > > >> > Express emails. There seems to be no option in WDS to include LM in > > > >> > the > > > >> > email search. > > > >> > > > > >> > Am I missing something? Does anyone know how to force WDS to index > > > >> > emails > > > >> > stored in Live Mail? > > > >> > Help appreciated - ff > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >
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03-02-2008	#12 (permalink)
Peter.R n/a posts	Re: Live Mail indexing in Windows Desktop Search 3.1 Well done DLB. The first thing I did after installing WLMail was to move the Message Store to another partition, and WDS 3.01 has always worked well for me within WLMail on my XP system. -- Cheers, Peter (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606) "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare --------------- "DLB" <DLB@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:FD5D6534-9448-4152-B77B-6ABDC9319964@xxxxxx Quote: > Ok....I finally figured it out. For some reason, when I decided to change my > mail store in Windows Live Mail to C:\Email (a folder I created for the > purpose) suddenly WDS began to search my emails perfectly. I had the folders > selected for indexing in their previous location, so I can't explain why it > would make any difference, but it did. The results in the WDS interface have > a long meaningless file name which would be depressing, but when searching > from within Windows Live Mail, it searches beautifully, including text from > the message body AND pdf attachments. I spent hours today trying to get this > to work and was about to concluded that it was impossible. Now it works > perfectly! > > > > "DLB" wrote: > Quote: >> I too am trying to get WDS 3.01 to index my Windows Live Mail. I have WDS >> set to index the Windows Live Mail Folders. And the .eml settings are set to >> index contents. I've tried everything I've heard suggested. I even >> reformatted my computer and reinstalled Windows with still no success. >> >> Are some people actually getting WDS to index the contents of their emails? >> I'd like to hear someone say that they have definitely gotten search results >> that had to come from the text within the email, not just the subject. >> >> I can't get any results at all!!! I can search the subject and the To/From >> fields from within Windows Live Mail, but if I type a word that is in the >> message body of an email, I get no results. And yes, I've given it plenty of >> time and waited until it said it was done. >> >> >> >> "wyup" wrote: >> Quote: >> > Hi again, >> > >> > After checking again I've forgot to say that I'm using Windows Live Mail as >> > my email client. Local help from WDS says it's only compatible with Outlook >> > 2007 and Outlook Express. However I made sure and added my WLM mail folder >> > and included the eml properties and content extension, but it won't give >> > result for any mail search, just other documents. >> > >> > I can search subjects from within Windows Live Mail, though, but it doesn't >> > seem to search email contents either, even after installing WDS 3.1 ,as it >> > prompted previously. >> > So I wonder whether WDS is useful to me since it does not search more that >> > it did before without it even from Windows Live Mail. Am I correct? >> > >> > thx again >> > >> > "Ildhund" wrote: >> > >> > > First, please ensure that all the sehttp://www.microsoft.com/wn3/aspx/postui.aspx?mid=dea7a750-4589-4d0b-a788-714f05bede15&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop&base=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx&bclr=ececec&fclr=000000&sxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/site.xml&stgxml=http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/settings.xml&sdgloc=en-US&tt=1ttings are as they should be. Check that >> > > on the WDS Search options > Advanced > File types tab that the entries for >> > > eml and nws have Index properties and file contents selected. The Filter >> > > description should show C:\WINDOWS\system32\mimefilt.dll. If it doesn't, you >> > > should uninstall and reinstall WDS. >> > > >> > > Did you Rebuild your index after making changes to the settings? This would >> > > probably happen automatically, which is why I didn't mention it before. >> > > >> > > Try closing down WDS, rebooting and then restarting it. >> > > >> > > If it's still not working properly, it may be necessary to uninstall it >> > > using Add or remove programs and then reinstall it. If you still have the >> > > installer package (something like >> > > WindowsDesktopSearch-KB917013-V301-XP-x86-ENU.MSI), you can right-click on >> > > it and select Repair instead. >> > > >> > > In any case, you'll have to wait until WDS has finished indexing before >> > > getting reliable results, and that could take several hours. Please report >> > > back whatever happens, so others can benefit from your experience. >> > > -- >> > > Noel >> > > >> > > "wyup" <wyup@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > > news:7163B654-BE9A-4270-80CF-D8B6A0ECD9E0@xxxxxx >> > > > Hi, I've followed your indications and eveything is correct, except that >> > > > it >> > > > won't search text within email messages. It shows sender or subject >> > > > content, >> > > > but not the text itself. Is there a way to work? Thx. >> > > > >> > > > "Ildhund" wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Works fine for me. Make sure your Store folder (Options > Advanced > >> > > >> Maintenance > Store folder button will tell you where it is) is marked >> > > >> for >> > > >> indexing (Right-click on the folder in Explorer, select Properties > >> > > >> General >> > > >> tab > Advanced button) and included in indexed locations in WDS (Click on >> > > >> the tray icon and select WDS Search options > Modify to select the Store >> > > >> folder). Check also that on the Advanced > File types tab, eml and nws >> > > >> files >> > > >> are included and the option to Index properties and file contents is >> > > >> selected. OK your way out, then go to bed. >> > > >> >> > > >> The default Store folder location (in %userprofile%\Local Settings) is by >> > > >> default excluded from the WDS index. >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Noel >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> "first500" <first500@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > > >> news:52260594-E471-42F1-B365-490A9ADF06CD@xxxxxx >> > > >> > Just installed Live Mail, but find that WDS still indexes (only) at >> > > >> > Outlook >> > > >> > Express emails. There seems to be no option in WDS to include LM in >> > > >> > the >> > > >> > email search. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Am I missing something? Does anyone know how to force WDS to index >> > > >> > emails >> > > >> > stored in Live Mail? >> > > >> > Help appreciated - ff >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >
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04-01-2008	#13 (permalink)
wyup n/a posts	Microsoft Search 4.0 Preview replaces Windows Desktop Search 3.1 The new Microsoft Search 4.0 for XP is available for download in http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en It is similar in appearence to WDS and seems to take over it. Haven't tested it yet, but seems to integrate also with Windows Live Mail.
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04-01-2008	#14 (permalink)
Pavel A. n/a posts	Re: Microsoft Search 4.0 Preview replaces Windows Desktop Search 3.1 "wyup" <diegohum@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OMTnq49kIHA.4196@xxxxxx Quote: > The new Microsoft Search 4.0 for XP is available for download in > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en > > It is similar in appearence to WDS and seems to take over it. Haven't > tested it yet, but seems to integrate also with Windows Live Mail. Hmm, still in beta... and what is "client-to-client remote query to shared indexed locations" ? Is it secure, or _as usual_? (see the corresponding GP settings...) --PA
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