Vista - Message Rules

v2008 (12.0.1606)

When I try to set up a message rules for several contacts I add them from
the contacts book. However the contact 'Fred Bloggs' has an email address
'fbloggs@xxxxxx' and selecting him places the email address, rather
than the contact name, into the rule. As the message is received from Fred
Bloggs, the rule is not applied.

I have hundreds of contacts from a variety of organisations and don't want
to have to type these in manually. Am I doing something daft?

Hi, fewdots.

One way to handle this is to highlight Fred's message, then click Actions |
Create rule from message. The Rules screen should open with the From... box
already checked and Fred's full address already entered in the description
box. You may edit it if you like, but what is already entered should be
correct since it is taken from Fred's message. It probably will show both
Fred Bloggs and his email address.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi RC

Thank you for your response but I'm afraid that exactly the same thing
happens when I create the rule from the message. It creates the rule for
fbloggs@xxxxxx but won't apply it until I change the 'from' to Fred
Bloggs, which is the contact name. That also doesn't help when I need to
create one rule for a group of people.... which has just given me an idea....
maybe I can include a block of individuals within a group and then apply a
rule to the group?

Very strange that an automatic process appears to be using a different
criterion to the one that created it, which is why I wondered if I was
missing a system parameter somewhere!

fewdots

"R. C. White" wrote:

Did you finish off your rule with "and Stop processing more rules?" If not,
try doing so and see if the rule works then. When setting up a rule for a
number of contacts, you can select them all in the Contacts dialogue box
before clicking To:
--
Noel

"fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Noel

(Just typed a long response and lost it!!! )

Tried that but it doesn't work. The problem is that WLM wants to put the
email address in the 'Where the From line contains' option but it only works
if you put the display name there.... because that's what actually appears on
the From field. I've tried this today on a virgin system and it's still
wrong. However, creating an identical rule in an identical fashion in OE
gives the display name and the rule is applied correctly.

I apply rules to almost 800 contacts and the only way I can get then to
apply is to manually enter the display name in the rule!!

fewdots


"Ildhund" wrote:

Unless there is a good reason for not doing so, all rules should end with
Stop processing. Mark one of the messages that the <email address> rule
doesn't work for and press Ctrl-F3 to expose the headers. Only one of the
lines should start with "From:", and the only element it must contain
according to RFC2822 is an email address. The name part is optional, so
that's why an automatically formed rule looks for the address.

If all your exclusive rules end with Stop processing..., I can't think why
this is happening. Is the rule that's not working at the top of the list? If
not, does it work if you move it to the top? What action is the rule
supposed to carry out? If you change it to something else, like Highlight it
with a colour, does it still not work? It's not entirely clear from your
post whether this is a problem with all rules of this type (where the From
line contains people) or just some of them.
--
Noel

"fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi again Noel

The problem is with ALL rules, not just the one. I've just checked the
header of a received message and (substituting real names, for example
purposes) the From line reads:

From: "Fred Bloggs" <fbloggs@xxxxxx>

So, the rule will work if I tell it to check for Fred Bloggs, but not if I
ask it to check for fbloggs@xxxxxx, which is the default generated by
adding from the Contact list or from a received message.

fewdots


"Ildhund" wrote:

As a rider to my previous posting.... I've checked the header of mails
received from people not in my address book and they are in exactly the same
format. The From name is not necessarily as it is on my own record but is
taken from the user info when they have set up the account in their own mail
application. I've just sent myself emails from different accounts and
different applications (WLM & OE), changing the name in my account settings,
and got a different result on each one!

fewdots

"fewdots" wrote:

I wish there was an answer to this problem. I'm looking for an email client
that allows me to easily set up email filter rules with a minimum number of
clicks. I get hundreds of spam messages from individual email addresses,
and I would like to be able to click on a toolbar icon and add the 'from'
field to a 'ban and delete' rule. What's so hard about that?
As it stands now, the process is:
Click on properties for an email,
Highlight and save *just* the displayed 'from' name, (It frequently gets
confused if one uses the whole line)
Open Tools/Message Rules/Mail, and select a particular rule
Open the rule, paste the 'from' field, click 'add', and OK twice out of
the box
Proceed to next message and repeat.

It's a foolish waste of time and effort. This is something that should be
easy, not a throwback to the olden days.
And I agree with everything 'fewdots' said.

"fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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right-click on the message, select Junk e-mail, Add sender to blocked sender
list
It won't help, tho, as spammers use a one time email address.

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