Vista - Need info on spam filtering

I use the message rules to do much of my spam filtering, do the message
rules get applied before or after the programs built in spam filter? Also,
does the program's built in spam filter work only on Microsoft accounts or
other ISP's POP3 accounts as well?

Rules get applied first. I say this because all my incoming POP mail is
diverted by rules to folders under the default account, and all my POP spam
is delivered to that account's junk folder. So, yes, the built-in filter
works on POP accounts.
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Noel

"Jay" <jmox@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F4FCD627-3734-417B-8650-79A9D3501C15@xxxxxx

Hmmm, strange thing is I found 100s of emails in the built in "Junk e-mail"
folder of a POP account indicating they got their due to WLM built in spam
filtering but it sounds like your saying they should have been diverted into
my own "junk" type folder due to my message rules. I just applied the
relevant "junk" message rules to the "Junk e-mail" folder and they were
moved into my own junk folder like I believe they should have been in the
first place. Confused ...

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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I can only report what I am seeing. My set-up is quite complex (18 POP
accounts and five HTTP, 27 message rules) and it works almost perfectly*. I
have the junk filter on High. None of my rules are designed to trap spam - I
reckon that the Outlook filtering engine that WLMail uses will do the job
better. Two points to remember: the order in which rules are applied is
vital, and unless there's a good reason not to do so, each rule should end
with Stop processing more rules. Try ensuring that all mail is diverted to
folders outside the account it's delivered to - so after moving messages
from family to the Family folder and ones about tennis to the Tennis folder,
the next rule could move messages received on a particular account to a
Miscellaneous folder. That way the only messages in "sub-account" folders
will be in Sent items, which you can clear up periodically, and you can
leave those sub-account folder branches collapsed and pretty well ignore
them.

*"Almost perfectly" means that there's occasionally legitimate mail in my
junk folder, but that's usually because I need to refine my rules a bit.
Very rarely does spam end up in another folder.
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Noel

"Jay" <jmox@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have a similar problem: e-mail from my reegular contacts are not passed on
as spam when using Outlook or Thunderbird (filters have been trained).
However, in WLM, 9 out of 10 goes straight to the Deleted Items folder. I
have told the system for over a week now that the sender's e-mail and the
sender's domain should be added to the Safe Sender/Safe domain list. I have
also added their addresses to my contacts. My spam setting was at high, now I
have moved it to low. But nothing helps: it still goes straight to my Deleted
ietms folder.
Can anyone give me a few pointers? Or this a "feature" :-)
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"Hagar"


"Ildhund" wrote:

Is this an HTTP or IMAP account or a POP3 account? If it's HTTP, you should
check the junk e-mail settings at the web interface. If they are set to, for
example, Standard filtering and delete Immediately, then when the account
synchronizes, anything found to be junk will end up in your local Deleted
items folder. You can also check your entire Safe senders list there,
including domains and senders whose address starts with a number, which
WLMail for some reason does not show.

If it's a POP account, do you have any message rules that could cause this
behaviour?
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Noel

"WickedViking" <WickedViking@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A321649C-33AF-42C8-A46A-21B9A84C5FB6@xxxxxx

Are the following options checked or unchecked?

Tools->Safety options...->Safe Senders [tab]->"Also trust e-mail from my Contacts"

Tools->Safety options...->Options [tab]->"Permanently delete suspected junk e-mail instead of moving it into the Junk E-mail folder"

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Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
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"WickedViking" <WickedViking@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A321649C-33AF-42C8-A46A-21B9A84C5FB6@xxxxxx

"Also trust e-mail from my Contacts" is checked. All accounts are POP
accounts, I do not have any message rules. Spam settings at the web interface
are set to "move to Junk Mail folder". But all the contacts in question are
white-listed in the web interface.
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"Hagar"


"Peter.R" wrote: