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Old 01-21-2008   #1 (permalink)
Max


 
 

Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

Please help me solve this strange problem.
I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
I also have another Administrator account called "User".
I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
the two Vista user accounts.
To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
if the remember password option is checked.
I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
language.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-21-2008   #2 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

Hi Max, I had a similar scenario where I shared my WLMail Message Store between two XP Operating Systems, with the Message Store on a separate partition. This worked fine except I too needed to re-enter the e-mail account passwords after switching Operating Systems. I just accepted it, for I could find no workaround.
--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------
"Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Please help me solve this strange problem.
> I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
> I also have another Administrator account called "User".
> I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
> the two Vista user accounts.
> To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
> Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
> and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
> If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
> remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
> However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
> logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
> different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
> if the remember password option is checked.
> I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
> disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
> Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
> language.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-21-2008   #3 (permalink)
Max


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

Hi Peter, thanks for the quick reply.
At least now I know that this isn't a problem related to my system and I can
also avoid to try to move the Message Store to another directory outside of
the Users root.
By the way, I hope the off-topic isn't too much, do you know if Outlook will
work in cases like this ?

"Peter.R" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi Max, I had a similar scenario where I shared my WLMail Message
> Store between two XP Operating Systems, with the Message Store on a
> separate partition. This worked fine except I too needed to re-enter the
> e-mail account passwords after switching Operating Systems. I just
> accepted it, for I could find no workaround.
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter
> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
> your philosophy." - Shakespeare
> ---------------
> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

> > Please help me solve this strange problem.
> > I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator
> account.
Quote:

> > I also have another Administrator account called "User".
> > I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http)
> between
Quote:

> > the two Vista user accounts.
> > To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
> > Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
> > C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
> > and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
> > If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
> > remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through
> restarts.
Quote:

> > However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off
> then
Quote:

> > logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as
> a
Quote:

> > different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts
> even
Quote:

> > if the remember password option is checked.
> > I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
> > disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
> > Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my
> primary
Quote:

> > language.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-21-2008   #4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

What you are seeing is normal. The Windows user name is part of the
key used to encrypt the password store.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Please help me solve this strange problem.
> I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
> I also have another Administrator account called "User".
> I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
> the two Vista user accounts.
> To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
> Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
> and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
> If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
> remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
> However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
> logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
> different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
> if the remember password option is checked.
> I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
> disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
> Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
> language.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-21-2008   #5 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

You can share your Outlook data files in a similar way Max, although the account information is stored in the registry for Outlook. See http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ou...124801033.aspx for more information. I suspect you would have the same password problem using Outlook though.
--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------
"Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4C7D0549-4307-413F-A383-48DCDF59E19F@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi Peter, thanks for the quick reply.
> At least now I know that this isn't a problem related to my system and I can
> also avoid to try to move the Message Store to another directory outside of
> the Users root.
> By the way, I hope the off-topic isn't too much, do you know if Outlook will
> work in cases like this ?
>
> "Peter.R" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hi Max, I had a similar scenario where I shared my WLMail Message
>> Store between two XP Operating Systems, with the Message Store on a
>> separate partition. This worked fine except I too needed to re-enter the
>> e-mail account passwords after switching Operating Systems. I just
>> accepted it, for I could find no workaround.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
>> your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>> ---------------
>> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
>>
Quote:

>> > Please help me solve this strange problem.
>> > I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator
>> account.
Quote:

>> > I also have another Administrator account called "User".
>> > I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http)
>> between
Quote:

>> > the two Vista user accounts.
>> > To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
>> > Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
>> > C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
>> > and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
>> > If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
>> > remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through
>> restarts.
Quote:

>> > However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off
>> then
Quote:

>> > logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as
>> a
Quote:

>> > different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts
>> even
Quote:

>> > if the remember password option is checked.
>> > I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
>> > disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
>> > Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my
>> primary
Quote:

>> > language.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-22-2008   #6 (permalink)
Max


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

Thanks Gary, so maybe this behaviour is to be expected even in Outlook.
Still I don't understand why only POP3 E-mail accounts are affected.
In fact the password for my http mail account (Hotmail) is retained even
when switching Windows user.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> What you are seeing is normal. The Windows user name is part of the
> key used to encrypt the password store.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Please help me solve this strange problem.
> > I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
> > I also have another Administrator account called "User".
> > I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
> > the two Vista user accounts.
> > To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
> > Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
> > C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
> > and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
> > If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
> > remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
> > However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
> > logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
> > different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
> > if the remember password option is checked.
> > I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
> > disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
> > Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
> > language.
> >
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-22-2008   #7 (permalink)
Max


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

Thanks Gary, so maybe this behaviour is to be expected even in Outlook.
Still I don't understand why only POP3 E-mail accounts are affected.
In fact the password for my http mail account (Hotmail) is retained even
when switching Windows user.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> What you are seeing is normal. The Windows user name is part of the
> key used to encrypt the password store.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Please help me solve this strange problem.
> > I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
> > I also have another Administrator account called "User".
> > I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
> > the two Vista user accounts.
> > To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
> > Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
> > C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
> > and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
> > If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
> > remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
> > However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
> > logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
> > different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
> > if the remember password option is checked.
> > I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
> > disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
> > Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
> > language.
> >
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-22-2008   #8 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

HTTP accounts use entirely different conventions. They came along
long after the POP3 protocol became standard. I'm not really familiar
with how the HTTP accounts are handled.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:E6C2FB86-DC24-4087-8A24-BF547B7F0CF3@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks Gary, so maybe this behaviour is to be expected even in Outlook.
> Still I don't understand why only POP3 E-mail accounts are affected.
> In fact the password for my http mail account (Hotmail) is retained even
> when switching Windows user.
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> What you are seeing is normal. The Windows user name is part of the
>> key used to encrypt the password store.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Please help me solve this strange problem.
>> > I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
>> > I also have another Administrator account called "User".
>> > I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
>> > the two Vista user accounts.
>> > To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
>> > Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
>> > C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
>> > and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
>> > If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
>> > remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
>> > However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
>> > logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
>> > different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
>> > if the remember password option is checked.
>> > I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
>> > disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
>> > Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
>> > language.
>> >
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-23-2008   #9 (permalink)
Max


 
 

Re: Passwords not remembered when switching Windows user account

Thanks Gary, will remember this every time I need to share a Message store
with POP3 accounts between multiple Windows Users or PCs.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> HTTP accounts use entirely different conventions. They came along
> long after the POP3 protocol became standard. I'm not really familiar
> with how the HTTP accounts are handled.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:E6C2FB86-DC24-4087-8A24-BF547B7F0CF3@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thanks Gary, so maybe this behaviour is to be expected even in Outlook.
> > Still I don't understand why only POP3 E-mail accounts are affected.
> > In fact the password for my http mail account (Hotmail) is retained even
> > when switching Windows user.
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> What you are seeing is normal. The Windows user name is part of the
> >> key used to encrypt the password store.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Max" <Max@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:84776B47-8E3E-41C1-BD9A-A5E71C90470A@xxxxxx
> >> > Please help me solve this strange problem.
> >> > I'm using WLM in Vista where I enabled the built-in Administrator account.
> >> > I also have another Administrator account called "User".
> >> > I would like to share my three E-mail accounts (2 POP3 and 1 http) between
> >> > the two Vista user accounts.
> >> > To this purpose I modified the default store directory for the built-in
> >> > Administrator account to the one used by the "User" account
> >> > C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail
> >> > and I'm able to read my E-mails in both Vista user Account.
> >> > If I don't switch the Vista user account everything works fine and WLM
> >> > remembers the passwords for all three E-mail accounts event through restarts.
> >> > However as soon as I switch Vista user account either by logging off then
> >> > logging on as a different Vista user or by restarting and logging on as a
> >> > different user WLM forget the password for the two POP3 E-mail accounts even
> >> > if the remember password option is checked.
> >> > I tried to delete and re-create the two POP3 accounts and also tried
> >> > disabling the Kaspersky mail scanning module with no results.
> >> > Please excuse me for the less than average English as it isn't my primary
> >> > language.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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