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Old 01-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
PaulOnTopOfTheHill
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NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

XP Home SP2
WLM 12.0.1606
I'm on ADSL Broadband connecting my laptop to internet via router

At least daily WLM says "You are working offline, do you want to connect?"
although I haven't gone offline.
Then when I say "retry" I also get the error:

Unable to send or receive messages for the Hotmail account.
Server Response: An error has occurred. Windows Live Mail Error ID:
0x8004108D
Protocol: NNTP Port: 0 Secure(SSL): No

I don't use newsgroups and have no NNTP accounts ...

any ideas?

paul


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Old 01-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

"PaulOnTopOfTheHill" <PaulOnTopOfTheHill@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:AFB8F430-E112-4016-90A1-15729233B7CF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> XP Home SP2
> WLM 12.0.1606
> I'm on ADSL Broadband connecting my laptop to internet via router
>
> At least daily WLM says "You are working offline, do you want to connect?"
> although I haven't gone offline.
> Then when I say "retry" I also get the error:
>
> Unable to send or receive messages for the Hotmail account.
> Server Response: An error has occurred. Windows Live Mail Error ID:
> 0x8004108D
> Protocol: NNTP Port: 0 Secure(SSL): No
>
> I don't use newsgroups and have no NNTP accounts ...
>
> any ideas?

The message refers to "the Hotmail account". My guess is that this is happening
coincident with your "Check for new messages every ___ minutes" event.
To test that idea you could disable that option and then only check manually
according to your own self-imposed schedule.

However you are probably still going to see that prompt, if not that error message...

Check the Connection tab to see if you are Connecting to Windows.Live services.
FWIW I think that I get that prompt regardless of what I do but that's what's doing it.
What's really stupid IMO is that it even comes up when I have set Work Offline.
I haven't checked if there is at least an interval which could be specified in the
registry. I would try using ProcMon to check for that possibility.


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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Old 01-23-2008   #3 (permalink)
Ildhund
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

There's something radically wrong with that account. Have you tried removing
it, restarting WLMail and then adding it back, accepting all the defaults in
the wizard? If you have no NNTP accounts, Options > General tab > Use
newsgroup Communities support features should not be selected. And check
that your AV is not scanning incoming and outgoing mail.
--
Noel

"PaulOnTopOfTheHill" <PaulOnTopOfTheHill@xxxxxx> wrote in
message news:AFB8F430-E112-4016-90A1-15729233B7CF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> XP Home SP2
> WLM 12.0.1606
> I'm on ADSL Broadband connecting my laptop to internet via router
>
> At least daily WLM says "You are working offline, do you want to connect?"
> although I haven't gone offline.
> Then when I say "retry" I also get the error:
>
> Unable to send or receive messages for the Hotmail account.
> Server Response: An error has occurred. Windows Live Mail Error ID:
> 0x8004108D
> Protocol: NNTP Port: 0 Secure(SSL): No
>
> I don't use newsgroups and have no NNTP accounts ...
>
> any ideas?
>
> paul
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-07-2008   #4 (permalink)
PaulOnTopOfTheHill
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

Thanks for that.
Yep, I tried removing/recreating and checking AV etc before I posted.
It doesn't occur every time it connects (whether auto or forced by me) just
sometimes.
But what I hadn't done is uncheck "Use newsgroup Communities support
feature", so I have now done so and will report back.
But can anyone tell me what that option is actually suppsoed to do?

thanks for

"Ildhund" wrote:
Quote:

> There's something radically wrong with that account. Have you tried removing
> it, restarting WLMail and then adding it back, accepting all the defaults in
> the wizard? If you have no NNTP accounts, Options > General tab > Use
> newsgroup Communities support features should not be selected. And check
> that your AV is not scanning incoming and outgoing mail.
> --
> Noel
>
> "PaulOnTopOfTheHill" <PaulOnTopOfTheHill@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:AFB8F430-E112-4016-90A1-15729233B7CF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > XP Home SP2
> > WLM 12.0.1606
> > I'm on ADSL Broadband connecting my laptop to internet via router
> >
> > At least daily WLM says "You are working offline, do you want to connect?"
> > although I haven't gone offline.
> > Then when I say "retry" I also get the error:
> >
> > Unable to send or receive messages for the Hotmail account.
> > Server Response: An error has occurred. Windows Live Mail Error ID:
> > 0x8004108D
> > Protocol: NNTP Port: 0 Secure(SSL): No
> >
> > I don't use newsgroups and have no NNTP accounts ...
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> > paul
> >
>
>
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Old 02-07-2008   #5 (permalink)
Peter.R
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

The newsgroup Communities support features option gives the ability to provide feedback to the newsgroups as a Rating (Useful/Not useful), and the ability to tag posts as a comment, question, or suggestion when one is signed into Windows Live through WLMail.

When one is not signed in, this feature still provides descriptive icons in columns called "Rank", "Msg Type", and "Rating". "Rank" can indicate whether a poster is an MVP, "Msg Type" indicates whether a post is a comment, question, or suggestion, as well as whether a question was 'answered', and "Rating" can indicate whether a thread is 'good'.

I use the the newsgroup Communities support features without any problems whatsoever, and I know of no bug that has been narrowed down to this option.

--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"PaulOnTopOfTheHill" <PaulOnTopOfTheHill@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F73CE2EC-8FAD-4629-9C3D-31C14AE53415@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Thanks for that.
> Yep, I tried removing/recreating and checking AV etc before I posted.
> It doesn't occur every time it connects (whether auto or forced by me) just
> sometimes.
> But what I hadn't done is uncheck "Use newsgroup Communities support
> feature", so I have now done so and will report back.
> But can anyone tell me what that option is actually suppsoed to do?
>
> thanks for
>
> "Ildhund" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> There's something radically wrong with that account. Have you tried removing
>> it, restarting WLMail and then adding it back, accepting all the defaults in
>> the wizard? If you have no NNTP accounts, Options > General tab > Use
>> newsgroup Communities support features should not be selected. And check
>> that your AV is not scanning incoming and outgoing mail.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "PaulOnTopOfTheHill" <PaulOnTopOfTheHill@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:AFB8F430-E112-4016-90A1-15729233B7CF@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > XP Home SP2
>> > WLM 12.0.1606
>> > I'm on ADSL Broadband connecting my laptop to internet via router
>> >
>> > At least daily WLM says "You are working offline, do you want to connect?"
>> > although I haven't gone offline.
>> > Then when I say "retry" I also get the error:
>> >
>> > Unable to send or receive messages for the Hotmail account.
>> > Server Response: An error has occurred. Windows Live Mail Error ID:
>> > 0x8004108D
>> > Protocol: NNTP Port: 0 Secure(SSL): No
>> >
>> > I don't use newsgroups and have no NNTP accounts ...
>> >
>> > any ideas?
>> >
>> > paul
>> >
>>
>>
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Old 02-09-2008   #6 (permalink)
PaulOnTopOfTheHill
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

Quote:
Quote:

> > But what I hadn't done is uncheck "Use newsgroup Communities support
> > feature", so I have now done so and will report back.
Quote:

> >>
Ok did that, no change.
This really is a crappy piece of software -- I've used it all through the
beta cycle and using this released version I've had more problems than I ever
did with the beta.
It's less feature rich than OE (I can't search messages properly without
installing another terrible piece of software - live search -- for instance)
and impossibly unreliable.
I think I'll uninstall it and go back to OE6 or better still dump hotmail
and go over to Linux full-time. Offline Hotmail is the only reason I've kept
Microsoft this long anyway.
Rant over.
Thanks for your suggestions anyhow, gentlemen
paul

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-05-2008   #7 (permalink)
gmdavis
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts



"PaulOnTopOfTheHill" wrote:
Quote:

>
Quote:
Quote:

> > > But what I hadn't done is uncheck "Use newsgroup Communities support
> > > feature", so I have now done so and will report back.
> > >>
>
> Ok did that, no change.
> This really is a crappy piece of software -- I've used it all through the
> beta cycle and using this released version I've had more problems than I ever
> did with the beta.
> It's less feature rich than OE (I can't search messages properly without
> installing another terrible piece of software - live search -- for instance)
> and impossibly unreliable.
> I think I'll uninstall it and go back to OE6 or better still dump hotmail
> and go over to Linux full-time. Offline Hotmail is the only reason I've kept
> Microsoft this long anyway.
> Rant over.
> Thanks for your suggestions anyhow, gentlemen
> paul
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-05-2008   #8 (permalink)
gmdavis
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts



"PaulOnTopOfTheHill" wrote:
Quote:

>
Quote:
Quote:

> > > But what I hadn't done is uncheck "Use newsgroup Communities support
> > > feature", so I have now done so and will report back.
> > >>
>
> Ok did that, no change.
> This really is a crappy piece of software -- I've used it all through the
> beta cycle and using this released version I've had more problems than I ever
> did with the beta.
> It's less feature rich than OE (I can't search messages properly without
> installing another terrible piece of software - live search -- for instance)
> and impossibly unreliable.
> I think I'll uninstall it and go back to OE6 or better still dump hotmail
> and go over to Linux full-time. Offline Hotmail is the only reason I've kept
> Microsoft this long anyway.
> Rant over.
> Thanks for your suggestions anyhow, gentlemen
> paul

Hello - I had exact same issue. False working offline message then unable
to connect and getting the "Windows live mail error 0x8004108D" - "Windows
Live Mail error-Unable to send or receive messages for the MSN (...) account."

Here's the link that fixed it - but I cleaned up - respectfully - the
english and have posted the fix below the link. All backed up email
immediately downloaded.

by Runesai:
http://help.lockergnome.com/vista/Wi...opict7255.html

"I was running into the same problem. What I did to fix it was by going into
the properties of my hotmail account (Alt to see menus – then Tools Menu –
Accounts (right click your hotmail or MSN account and select properties),
then go to the Connection Tab. From here I clicked the “always connect
using” button.
Then select the LAN option (only option I have). It asked me for a
password (it may not) after that, then downloaded 4 days worth of email. I
hope this helps
someone else. "

Quote:

>
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Old 04-09-2008   #9 (permalink)
PaulOnTopOfTheHill
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Re: NNTP error but no NNTP accounts

OK after I calmed down I tried this suggestion and it has resolved the problem.
I think I should have realised this myself much earlier but never mind!

Thanks very much for your help

"gmdavis" wrote:
Quote:

> Hello - I had exact same issue. False working offline message then unable
> to connect and getting the "Windows live mail error 0x8004108D" - "Windows
> Live Mail error-Unable to send or receive messages for the MSN (...) account."
>
> Here's the link that fixed it - but I cleaned up - respectfully - the
> english and have posted the fix below the link. All backed up email
> immediately downloaded.
>
> by Runesai:
> http://help.lockergnome.com/vista/Wi...opict7255.html
>
> "I was running into the same problem. What I did to fix it was by going into
> the properties of my hotmail account (Alt to see menus – then Tools Menu –
> Accounts (right click your hotmail or MSN account and select properties),
> then go to the Connection Tab. From here I clicked the “always connect
> using” button.
> Then select the LAN option (only option I have). It asked me for a
> password (it may not) after that, then downloaded 4 days worth of email. I
> hope this helps
> someone else. "
>
>
Quote:

> >
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