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Old 01-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
_mikebs
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RE: find a message problem

Hey:
I don't think the Find a message or the Edit - Find a message are working for me any more. Just tried Find a message for the following "0x800CCC0F" and it did not find any messages when it should have at least found these 2: news:OvrgfwFXIHA.4272@xxxxxx
What is even worse is that it gives the option to Search all newsgroups and when I selected that it went into heavy usage for awhile, then shut down WLM and a Compose window that I had open at the time with no error report. When I restarted WLM, it seemed ok, no added Recovered folders, seems a little more sluggish. Guess I'll try resetting the Quick links again.
--
¦·Þ
Thanks, Mike - Windows XP Pro SP2 WLM 12.0.1606.1023
_______________________________________________

....
Hey dwolf:
I just got it! You don't need the Edit - Find message [Ctrl Shift F] to search for e-mail messages. [Mine seems to be grayed out most of the time in Quick views which is probably another bug, of many in Quick views. When you do get the search pane if you first select an e-mail account or folder, it takes two Find Now tries to actually find anything, which may also be another new bug]. Just below the tool bar or near the top of the page should be a box with 'Find a message' in it. If you enter your search letter, word or phrase in it, the message headers for the messages with matches will show in the message header pane.
However, you can probably use the Edit - Find - Message if you hit Find Now twice, it does have a lot more options in the find pane.

We also need the Operating System you're running. The quick views broke as soon as I started using the latest release. Most of my quick views only show the latest few days activity, all others don't show up and "Find a message" WONT! Here is a link to similar problems:
<news:62DFA7BE-F505-468D-8C0E-CF6CA1398694@xxxxxx>
You should be able to 'Find a message' in the newsgroup mode.

Thanks, Mike - Windows XP Pro SP2 WLM 12.0.1606.1023

"Mark M Morse" <mmm4444bot@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:381B2C4F-A85A-462B-B662-DE6725D675C2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi dwolf:
>
> You did not post your steps, so I do not know the drop-down menu that
> you are using. I do not use any menus when I search for a message.
> Here are my steps in build 1606.
>
> 1) I highlight the 'All e-mails' folder in the accounts pane (under
> 'Quick views') in WLM's main window
>
> 2) I hit CTRL+E
>
> 3) I type the character string for which I search
>
> ~ Markbot
>
> dwolf wrote:
Quote:

>>
>> 1606
>>
>> When I do the search I choose the all email drop down menu and that
>> does not work
Quote:

>>> Mark M Morse wrote, in part:
>>>
>>> It works for me; it even finds messages based on text in the
>>> message body.
>>>
>>> Please post the build that you have and each of your search steps.
>>>> "jmc777" <jmc777@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:C6E4F407-7706-46F3-B3E8-537492C4102F@xxxxxx
>>>> dwolf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I choose search in all email ... it displays no results
>>>> when I know there are.
>>>> It will search the folder you are in, but not search in all e-mail
I know your post is nearly 1 month old, but I thought I'd chip in and say
that I'm having this problem too. I uninstalled/reinstalled WLM 1606 to see
if it'd fix it, but the issue is still there. :-/
Old 01-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: find a message problem

"_mikebs" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OZLJA0bXIHA.4272@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hey:
> I don't think the Find a message or the Edit - Find a message are working for me any more.
> Just tried Find a message for the following "0x800CCC0F" and it did not find any messages

Is your Ctrl-e Find doing any better? <eg>

FWIW using that one just proves that my WDS still isn't helping the way I thought
it should. E.g. it only finds 2 messages, both really old, the only ones which have
that string in their Subject text.

In contrast Ctrl-Shift-F found 13 messages for me (oldest is a reply by Norman
on 2007-11-08 which the Ctrl-e Find does include.)


BTW how is that you sometimes end up creating replies without any References
header. E.g. this one showed up unwatched in a Watched thread and subsequent
inspection shows that there is no References header even though it should be
a reply to

Message-ID: <792A4CC9-1ED6-4F15-BE9A-58300CF119C0@xxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:31:06 -0800

Oh, I see! You were replying to yourself, so you probably created your reply
from Outbox or Sent Items? In either case you don't have a Message-ID
so a References header is not generated. Hmm... but that did have
References so the reply from a non-newsgroup source *could* have been
threaded to at least the same level as the original... another deficiency WLMail
inherited from OE... ; }


---


Old 01-24-2008   #3 (permalink)
Ildhund
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Re: find a message problem

Robert Aldwinckle wrote...
Quote:

> Is your Ctrl-e Find doing any better? <eg>
>
> FWIW using that one just proves that my WDS still isn't helping the way
> I thought
> it should. E.g. it only finds 2 messages, both really old, the only ones
> which have
> that string in their Subject text.
I'm sorry you haven't got it working properly yet. It doesn't look as if
your messages are indexed, so here are a few things to check:
news:OTOQr0TUIHA.5288@xxxxxx
--
Noel


Old 01-24-2008   #4 (permalink)
_mikebs
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Re: find a message problem

Hi Robert:
Find a message [Ctrl+e] or the Edit - Find a message [Ctrl+Shift+F] no joy, even with fixing Quick views.

What is even worse is that it gives the option to Search all newsgroups and when I selected that it went into heavy usage for awhile, then shut down WLM and a Compose window that I had open at the time with no error report. When I restarted WLM, it seemed ok, no added Recovered folders, seems a little more sluggish.
I tried resetting the newsgroup again, no help.

Fortunately, I remembered I was only downloading headers so when I reset and marked them all as read, the bodies didn't get download except for those that I actually read.

Your FWIW doesn't match my results, with either Find a message, I only get your 2 oldest messages plus 4 other even older plus 2 that I have added lately and Ctrl+Shift+F only gets those if the 0x800CCC0F is in the Subject line. It does find the current ones that I mentioned earlier plus 6 others from Jan. if the search is in message, but if I put the search string in both header and message, it only returns 1 candidate.
I think indexing is not operational on this system, I really don't want to activate it since I've avoided it up to now and the Find was working way better 2 weeks ago.

On the BTW, Sorry, I wanted to indicate a new Question for this one, but I don't get a categorize on the Actions drop down list when I Reply to Group. So I started with a new message, but stuck all the old stuff in it and categorized it as a Question. Didn't think about how that would affect the Message ID and References header, sorry about that.
BTW I wonder if there is a header problem so some watched conversations are not all highlighted? In this thread, only my posts, yours and Noel's are highlighted as watched.
--
¦·Þ
Thanks, Mike - Windows XP Pro SP2 WLM 12.0.1606.1023
_______________________________________________
"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uLYbdndXIHA.5880@xxxxxx
"_mikebs" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OZLJA0bXIHA.4272@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hey:
> I don't think the Find a message or the Edit - Find a message are working for me any more.
> Just tried Find a message for the following "0x800CCC0F" and it did not find any messages

Is your Ctrl-e Find doing any better? <eg>

FWIW using that one just proves that my WDS still isn't helping the way I thought
it should. E.g. it only finds 2 messages, both really old, the only ones which have
that string in their Subject text.

In contrast Ctrl-Shift-F found 13 messages for me (oldest is a reply by Norman
on 2007-11-08 which the Ctrl-e Find does include.)


BTW how is that you sometimes end up creating replies without any References
header. E.g. this one showed up unwatched in a Watched thread and subsequent
inspection shows that there is no References header even though it should be
a reply to

Message-ID: news:792A4CC9-1ED6-4F15-BE9A-58300CF119C0@xxxxxx>


Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:31:06 -0800

Oh, I see! You were replying to yourself, so you probably created your reply
from Outbox or Sent Items? In either case you don't have a Message-ID
so a References header is not generated. Hmm... but that did have
References so the reply from a non-newsgroup source *could* have been
threaded to at least the same level as the original... another deficiency WLMail
inherited from OE... ; }


---


Old 01-25-2008   #5 (permalink)
Peter.R
Guest


 

Re: find a message problem

Hi mikebs, I get 16 messages in 5 threads when I search (Find a
Message) "0x800CCC0F" in this newsgroup back to November 2007. You
indicated that you are only downloading headers though, so when you 'Find
a message' search, you can't find anything in a message body that you have
not downloaded! This is why I download all message bodies in this
newsgroup. You indicated that you reset your newsgroups "again", so I am
guessing you lost your message bodies when you first did that.
--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------
"_mikebs" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#PElUVwXIHA.4696@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Robert:
> Find a message [Ctrl+e] or the Edit - Find a message [Ctrl+Shift+F] no
> joy, even with fixing Quick views.
>
> What is even worse is that it gives the option to Search all newsgroups
> and when I selected that it went into heavy usage for awhile, then shut
> down WLM and a Compose window that I had open at the time with no error
> report. When I restarted WLM, it seemed ok, no added Recovered folders,
> seems a little more sluggish.
> I tried resetting the newsgroup again, no help.
>
> Fortunately, I remembered I was only downloading headers so when I reset
> and marked them all as read, the bodies didn't get download except for
> those that I actually read.
>
> Your FWIW doesn't match my results, with either Find a message, I only
> get your 2 oldest messages plus 4 other even older plus 2 that I have
> added lately and Ctrl+Shift+F only gets those if the 0x800CCC0F is in
> the Subject line. It does find the current ones that I mentioned
> earlier plus 6 others from Jan. if the search is in message, but if I
> put the search string in both header and message, it only returns 1
> candidate.
> I think indexing is not operational on this system, I really don't want
> to activate it since I've avoided it up to now and the Find was working
> way better 2 weeks ago.
>
> On the BTW, Sorry, I wanted to indicate a new Question for this one, but
> I don't get a categorize on the Actions drop down list when I Reply to
> Group. So I started with a new message, but stuck all the old stuff in
> it and categorized it as a Question. Didn't think about how that would
> affect the Message ID and References header, sorry about that.
> BTW I wonder if there is a header problem so some watched conversations
> are not all highlighted? In this thread, only my posts, yours and
> Noel's are highlighted as watched.
> --
> ¦·Þ
> Thanks, Mike - Windows XP Pro SP2 WLM 12.0.1606.1023
> _______________________________________________
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uLYbdndXIHA.5880@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "_mikebs" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OZLJA0bXIHA.4272@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

> > Hey:
> > I don't think the Find a message or the Edit - Find a message are
> working for me any more.
Quote:

> > Just tried Find a message for the following "0x800CCC0F" and it did
> not find any messages
>
>
> Is your Ctrl-e Find doing any better? <eg>
>
> FWIW using that one just proves that my WDS still isn't helping the
> way I thought
> it should. E.g. it only finds 2 messages, both really old, the only
> ones which have
> that string in their Subject text.
>
> In contrast Ctrl-Shift-F found 13 messages for me (oldest is a reply
> by Norman
> on 2007-11-08 which the Ctrl-e Find does include.)
>
>
> BTW how is that you sometimes end up creating replies without any
> References
> header. E.g. this one showed up unwatched in a Watched thread and
> subsequent
> inspection shows that there is no References header even though it
> should be
> a reply to
>
> Message-ID: news:792A4CC9-1ED6-4F15-BE9A-58300CF119C0@xxxxxx>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:31:06 -0800
>
> Oh, I see! You were replying to yourself, so you probably created your
> reply
> from Outbox or Sent Items? In either case you don't have a Message-ID
> so a References header is not generated. Hmm... but that did have
> References so the reply from a non-newsgroup source *could* have been
> threaded to at least the same level as the original... another
> deficiency WLMail
> inherited from OE... ; }
Old 01-25-2008   #6 (permalink)
_mikebs
Guest


 

Re: find a message problem

Yes Peter, but after I reset, and thought about it awhile, I switched to synchronize all messages in this account and hit the synchronize account button, which downloaded for quite awhile [I watched the progress], so now I have 4500 messages, back to mid October. Now I just tried again both ways [Ctrl_e and Ctrl+Shift+F] and they both only gave me the 2 older ones from Nov. 08. I've been getting different results in several combinations even since I did all this.
--
¦·Þ
Thanks, Mike - Windows XP Pro SP2 WLM 12.0.1606.1023
_______________________________________________
"Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OwXvzfxXIHA.5984@xxxxxx
Hi mikebs, I get 16 messages in 5 threads when I search (Find a
Message) "0x800CCC0F" in this newsgroup back to November 2007. You
indicated that you are only downloading headers though, so when you 'Find
a message' search, you can't find anything in a message body that you have
not downloaded! This is why I download all message bodies in this
newsgroup. You indicated that you reset your newsgroups "again", so I am
guessing you lost your message bodies when you first did that.
--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------
"_mikebs" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#PElUVwXIHA.4696@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Robert:
> Find a message [Ctrl+e] or the Edit - Find a message [Ctrl+Shift+F] no
> joy, even with fixing Quick views.
>
> What is even worse is that it gives the option to Search all newsgroups
> and when I selected that it went into heavy usage for awhile, then shut
> down WLM and a Compose window that I had open at the time with no error
> report. When I restarted WLM, it seemed ok, no added Recovered folders,
> seems a little more sluggish.
> I tried resetting the newsgroup again, no help.
>
> Fortunately, I remembered I was only downloading headers so when I reset
> and marked them all as read, the bodies didn't get download except for
> those that I actually read.
>
> Your FWIW doesn't match my results, with either Find a message, I only
> get your 2 oldest messages plus 4 other even older plus 2 that I have
> added lately and Ctrl+Shift+F only gets those if the 0x800CCC0F is in
> the Subject line. It does find the current ones that I mentioned
> earlier plus 6 others from Jan. if the search is in message, but if I
> put the search string in both header and message, it only returns 1
> candidate.
> I think indexing is not operational on this system, I really don't want
> to activate it since I've avoided it up to now and the Find was working
> way better 2 weeks ago.
>
> On the BTW, Sorry, I wanted to indicate a new Question for this one, but
> I don't get a categorize on the Actions drop down list when I Reply to
> Group. So I started with a new message, but stuck all the old stuff in
> it and categorized it as a Question. Didn't think about how that would
> affect the Message ID and References header, sorry about that.
> BTW I wonder if there is a header problem so some watched conversations
> are not all highlighted? In this thread, only my posts, yours and
> Noel's are highlighted as watched.
> --
> ¦·Þ
> Thanks, Mike - Windows XP Pro SP2 WLM 12.0.1606.1023
> _______________________________________________
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uLYbdndXIHA.5880@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "_mikebs" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OZLJA0bXIHA.4272@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

> > Hey:
> > I don't think the Find a message or the Edit - Find a message are
> working for me any more.
Quote:

> > Just tried Find a message for the following "0x800CCC0F" and it did
> not find any messages
>
>
> Is your Ctrl-e Find doing any better? <eg>
>
> FWIW using that one just proves that my WDS still isn't helping the
> way I thought
> it should. E.g. it only finds 2 messages, both really old, the only
> ones which have
> that string in their Subject text.
>
> In contrast Ctrl-Shift-F found 13 messages for me (oldest is a reply
> by Norman
> on 2007-11-08 which the Ctrl-e Find does include.)
>
>
> BTW how is that you sometimes end up creating replies without any
> References
> header. E.g. this one showed up unwatched in a Watched thread and
> subsequent
> inspection shows that there is no References header even though it
> should be
> a reply to
>
> Message-ID: news:792A4CC9-1ED6-4F15-BE9A-58300CF119C0@xxxxxx>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:31:06 -0800
>
> Oh, I see! You were replying to yourself, so you probably created your
> reply
> from Outbox or Sent Items? In either case you don't have a Message-ID
> so a References header is not generated. Hmm... but that did have
> References so the reply from a non-newsgroup source *could* have been
> threaded to at least the same level as the original... another
> deficiency WLMail
> inherited from OE... ; }
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