Thank you Larry. I am going to switch back to windows mail after getting the
following email from Cloudeight a few minutes ago....Here is what they
"We have researched and are quite educated with Windows Live Mail; we were
part of Microsoft's invited beta testing long before it was available a Beta
to the general public. As far as "stationery' it depends on what your
definition of stationery is - most people don't consider a background
picture by itself "stationery". It's a background image..like a Web page
background - it's not stationery, it's a background picture . having to
spend time tweaking and changing font colors, margins etc. is no fun, and
the formatting is lost when sent anyway.
we were hopeful something may have changed, but it has not. Stationery
simply does not work in Windows Live. The scripting and coding becomes
corrupted and there is no work around.
Stationery indicates some sort of styling, background, top, bottom, right,
left margins, contrasting font color, font style, text deocration, music
etc. While a background picture might be used as and called "stationery"
most stationers don't. You can stick any sort of picture in an email and use
it as a background -and if you like - call it stationery. But we don't think
that really is stationery - it's a background and nothing more.
Also, we don't like where Microsoft is going with the "LIVE" mail idea.
Storing your passwords, messages, account logins, etc. should be stored on
Microsoft's servers because no matter how secure a server is, there's always
a chance it will be breeched. There's no reason to store all your mail
accounts, passwords, messages, etc. in two places. We don't think it's a
Finally, why would anyone use an email program with less features? Moving
from Outlook Express or Windows Mail to a program with less features is a
downgrade not an upgrade. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's
better. There is not a single feature in Windows Live Mail (with the
exception of sending / retrieving Hotmail/MSN accounts) that Outlook
Express/Windows Mail does not have. But there are many features Windows
Mail/Outlook Express have that Windows Live Mail doesn't have:
Windows Mail / Outlook Express:
1. Store your private messages and private account information on your
computer - not on your computer and Microsoft's servers.
2. Allow you to use real stationery not just backgrounds
3. Allow you to edit, change, modify the source code (HTML) of any email
4. Allow multi-media content such as embedded background music as well as
5. Allow you to create and use signatures for outgoing mail
6. No advertising inserted in the bottom of outgoing mail by Microsoft.
Currently Microsoft only inserts ads outgoing Hotmail/MSN account emails -
but they could at any time being to insert ads in the bottom of email sent
with any account without the user being aware of it.
These are just a few of the features one gives up when one uses Windows Live
Mail. So I guess we don't understand why anyone would give up more features
for less- and give up some of their privacy as well.
It's your choice and you're welcome to use what you want to use, but to say
Windows Live Mail has a stationery button and therefore is capable os using
stationery depends on how one defines "stationery". Windows Mail and Outlook
Express come with some "stationery" pre-installed. But they're just
background pictures - and don't really qualify as stationery.
You're welcome to use Windows Live Mail if you really like it and don't mind
the potential privacy violations and having your private information stored
and synched in two different places. If you find the features of Windows
Live Mail adequate for your needs then using it is a personal choice.
Cloudeight Stationery is formatted, CSS-Styled, stationery - not background
pictures. They do not work CORRECTLY in Windows Live Mail - you can force
them to appear in the background but that's not working correctly - you'd be
taking a stationery and turning it into a non-formatted background picture -
to us that's not what stationery is. Trying to read mail sent by you using
stationery is difficult to read as formatting is lost. Check your "sent"
folder to get an idea of what others actually see.
Live is not replacing Windows Mail; at least not anytime soon.
Best Wishes, and thanks for choosing Cloudeight!
Eightball & Thundercloud
Cloudeight Internet LLC"
"İLarryEş" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> Unfortunately Windows Live Mail (which is different than Windows Live
> Hotmail) does not support Stationery. I have been asking for support but
> apparently the Live Mail Team doesn't think it will happen. If you use
> Vista, the e-mail client (Windows Mail) that comes with Vista does support
> Stationery, so whenever I want to use stationery, I use Windows Mail. But
> if you are still on Windows XP and want to use stationery, you are better
> off using Outlook Express. I'm sure someone else will come along and
> a lot more information than I have provided.
> "SueZee" <suezee@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> Hello there! This is my first post in this group and I'm here because
> someone from Microsoft Communities referred me to you guys. I'm new to
> Windows Live mail and have been enjoying it so far. I really like to use
> stationery and when I try to download stationery from "Cloudeight" it
> download into Windows Live Mail but just into Windows Mail. I wrote their
> support people about this and they told me that Windows Live Mail is
> just hotmail and that no web based email will support stationery. I was
> told Windows Live Mail is not the same as Windows Live Hotmail, but the
> support person at Cloudeight will not listen to that at all and is
> so, I am here for your support....is there a way to use stationery in
> Windows Live Mail and is it really just web based hotmail?