I have Windows Vista and have just started using WLM.



I tried to import some messages from an Outlook Express 6 Message Store on a
Windows XP computer on the same network, but WLM would not let me browse the
network to find the OE Message Store.

Why can't I access the network and how can I import the messages?

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia

"Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eERKPV2hIHA.3512@xxxxxx

> I have Windows Vista and have just started using WLM.
>
> I tried to import some messages from an Outlook Express 6 Message Store on
> a Windows XP computer on the same network, but WLM would not let me browse
> the network to find the OE Message Store.
>
> Why can't I access the network and how can I import the messages?
>
> Lindsay Graham
> Canberra, Australia

I don't know how but would like to do the same thing.

Ron P

Can you find the file store structure on your old machine, copy it to your
shared folder and then have WLM find it? Do you even have access to shared
folders on your old machine, without using WLM?

--
Regards, BobF.
"Bogey Man" <spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eERKPV2hIHA.3512@xxxxxx

>> I have Windows Vista and have just started using WLM.
>>
>> I tried to import some messages from an Outlook Express 6 Message Store
>> on a Windows XP computer on the same network, but WLM would not let me
>> browse the network to find the OE Message Store.
>>
>> Why can't I access the network and how can I import the messages?
>>
>> Lindsay Graham
>> Canberra, Australia

>
> I don't know how but would like to do the same thing.
>
> Ron P

Yes, Bob, I do have full access to the other computer and, yes, I could copy
the OE6 message store (or the part of it that I need) to my computer and
then do the import to WLM. But why on earth does WLM have this restriction
when it did not exist in OE? I do this import regularly and it was always
so easy with OE -- Microsoft just seems to making everything more difficult
to do, not easier. Does anyone have an explanation?

Lindsay Graham


"Bob F." <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#3UV52DiIHA.4376@xxxxxx

> Can you find the file store structure on your old machine, copy it to
> your shared folder and then have WLM find it? Do you even have access to
> shared folders on your old machine, without using WLM?
>
> --
> Regards, BobF.
> "Bogey Man" <spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ejlDShDiIHA.1208@xxxxxx

>>
>>
>> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eERKPV2hIHA.3512@xxxxxx

>>> I have Windows Vista and have just started using WLM.
>>>
>>> I tried to import some messages from an Outlook Express 6 Message Store
>>> on a Windows XP computer on the same network, but WLM would not let me
>>> browse the network to find the OE Message Store.
>>>
>>> Why can't I access the network and how can I import the messages?
>>>
>>> Lindsay Graham
>>> Canberra, Australia

>>
>> I don't know how but would like to do the same thing.
>>
>> Ron P

>

Lindsay,

So from what you are saying is that you have everything restored but you
want to know why so many steps? Is that it? The short answer is to make it
more difficult for the Malware people to navigate. Unfortunately this also
makes it more difficult for the casual user. The trick is to find a
balance. But I'm wondering if the problem is solved since you said "Why
can't I access the network and how can I import the messages". Do you need
further help or is it that you want an explanation. I am just concerned,
and want to make sure you have use of your computer.

--
Regards, BobF.
"Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23IpaHMIiIHA.2540@xxxxxx

> Yes, Bob, I do have full access to the other computer and, yes, I could
> copy the OE6 message store (or the part of it that I need) to my computer
> and then do the import to WLM. But why on earth does WLM have this
> restriction when it did not exist in OE? I do this import regularly and
> it was always so easy with OE -- Microsoft just seems to making everything
> more difficult to do, not easier. Does anyone have an explanation?
>
> Lindsay Graham
>
>
> "Bob F." <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#3UV52DiIHA.4376@xxxxxx

>> Can you find the file store structure on your old machine, copy it to
>> your shared folder and then have WLM find it? Do you even have access to
>> shared folders on your old machine, without using WLM?
>>
>> --
>> Regards, BobF.
>> "Bogey Man" <spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ejlDShDiIHA.1208@xxxxxx

>>>
>>>
>>> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eERKPV2hIHA.3512@xxxxxx
>>>> I have Windows Vista and have just started using WLM.
>>>>
>>>> I tried to import some messages from an Outlook Express 6 Message Store
>>>> on a Windows XP computer on the same network, but WLM would not let me
>>>> browse the network to find the OE Message Store.
>>>>
>>>> Why can't I access the network and how can I import the messages?
>>>>
>>>> Lindsay Graham
>>>> Canberra, Australia
>>>
>>> I don't know how but would like to do the same thing.
>>>
>>> Ron P

>>

My apologies to Bob F. (and to any others following this thread) for not
responding earlier. I need to explain that this is not a restore issue, but
a message import issue. I regularly import messages from several folders in
a colleague's OE message store on another computer on the same network.
When I used OE (before I got Vista and was no longer able to use OE), that
was a very easy process. But now that I have WLM, I understand that an
intra-network import is not possible, and I have to copy the relevant
folders from the other computer to mine, and then import the required
messages.

When I asked why this was so, Bob said that 'The short answer is to make it
more difficult for the Malware people to navigate.' What does this mean and
what is the long answer?

So my questions are:
1. Is there a way around this block so that I can do an intra-network
message import simply as I used to be able to with OE to OE transfers?
2. If not, what *very good* reason does Microsoft have for making this
process more difficult than it was? Microsoft, as we all know, puts a lot
of effort into "making life easier" for us users (and tells us often that it
does), but this simple process has been made more difficult.

--
Lindsay Graham

"Bob F." <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OllIgTIiIHA.4744@xxxxxx

> Lindsay,
>
> So from what you are saying is that you have everything restored but you
> want to know why so many steps? Is that it? The short answer is to make
> it more difficult for the Malware people to navigate. Unfortunately this
> also makes it more difficult for the casual user. The trick is to find a
> balance. But I'm wondering if the problem is solved since you said "Why
> can't I access the network and how can I import the messages". Do you
> need further help or is it that you want an explanation. I am just
> concerned, and want to make sure you have use of your computer.
>
> --
> Regards, BobF.
> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23IpaHMIiIHA.2540@xxxxxx

>> Yes, Bob, I do have full access to the other computer and, yes, I could
>> copy the OE6 message store (or the part of it that I need) to my computer
>> and then do the import to WLM. But why on earth does WLM have this
>> restriction when it did not exist in OE? I do this import regularly and
>> it was always so easy with OE -- Microsoft just seems to making
>> everything more difficult to do, not easier. Does anyone have an
>> explanation?
>>
>> Lindsay Graham
>>
>>
>> "Bob F." <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#3UV52DiIHA.4376@xxxxxx

>>> Can you find the file store structure on your old machine, copy it to
>>> your shared folder and then have WLM find it? Do you even have access
>>> to shared folders on your old machine, without using WLM?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards, BobF.
>>> "Bogey Man" <spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:ejlDShDiIHA.1208@xxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:eERKPV2hIHA.3512@xxxxxx
>>>>> I have Windows Vista and have just started using WLM.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to import some messages from an Outlook Express 6 Message
>>>>> Store on a Windows XP computer on the same network, but WLM would not
>>>>> let me browse the network to find the OE Message Store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can't I access the network and how can I import the messages?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lindsay Graham
>>>>> Canberra, Australia
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how but would like to do the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Ron P
>>>

>

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:51:23 +1000, Lindsay Graham wrote:

> My apologies to Bob F. (and to any others following this thread) for not
> responding earlier. I need to explain that this is not a restore issue, but
> a message import issue. I regularly import messages from several folders in
> a colleague's OE message store on another computer on the same network.
> When I used OE (before I got Vista and was no longer able to use OE), that
> was a very easy process. But now that I have WLM, I understand that an
> intra-network import is not possible, and I have to copy the relevant
> folders from the other computer to mine, and then import the required
> messages.
>
> When I asked why this was so, Bob said that 'The short answer is to make it
> more difficult for the Malware people to navigate.' What does this mean and
> what is the long answer?

"Malware" is a class of software which is designed to steal data, and/or
damage systems; such as viruses and Trojan Horses. By restricting access
permissions, Vista limits the damage that can be done by malware.

> So my questions are:
> 1. Is there a way around this block so that I can do an intra-network
> message import simply as I used to be able to with OE to OE transfers?
> 2. If not, what *very good* reason does Microsoft have for making this
> process more difficult than it was? Microsoft, as we all know, puts a lot
> of effort into "making life easier" for us users (and tells us often that it
> does), but this simple process has been made more difficult.

I am going to assume that you have set up the appropriate share permissions
on the MSOE message store folder on the Windows XP computer. Not having a
lot of experience with WLM on Windows Vista, this is just a guess. You have
to set up networking on the Vista computer so that it will recognize folders
on the XP computer; and, possibly, map the shared folder on the XP computer
to a network drive letter on the Vista computer.

What little experience that I have tells me that you can map a shared
resource to a drive letter in Vista; I have successfully mapped a shared
folder on a Windows ME computer to a network drive on the Vista computer.

Beyond that, I have no way to fully test the approach. WLM on Windows MCE
2005 will let me navigate to shared folders on a Windows ME computer; but
the Vista computer is not mine, and does not have WLM installed, so I can't
test this fully.

--
Norman
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