The layout of the message headers (From, To, Date, Subject etc) in WLM is
markedly different from OE, and I find it quite annoying that:

1. the From: field for a new message that I'm composing is tucked away in
the RHS of the screen instead of being aligned with the To: and Cc: fields
etc; and



2. in all messages and newsgroup posts sent or received, the date is even
more difficult to see -- it is light grey and is also tucked almost out of
sight on the RHS of the screen.

Is it possible for these to be more clearly displayed, eg, as they were in
Outlook Express?

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:09:00 +1100, Lindsay Graham wrote:

> The layout of the message headers (From, To, Date, Subject etc) in WLM is
> markedly different from OE, and I find it quite annoying that:
>
> 1. the From: field for a new message that I'm composing is tucked away in
> the RHS of the screen instead of being aligned with the To: and Cc: fields
> etc; and
>
> 2. in all messages and newsgroup posts sent or received, the date is even
> more difficult to see -- it is light grey and is also tucked almost out of
> sight on the RHS of the screen.
>
> Is it possible for these to be more clearly displayed, eg, as they were in
> Outlook Express?

It is probably too late to request such changes, now that Windows Live Mail
is out of Beta.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

1. In a compose screen there are several reasons why the From field is
not aligned with the To and Subject fields. The latter are fields you type
into, while the From field is not. For users with multiple email addresses
the From field is a dropdown list from which you select which account
to send from. This makes it quite different from the other fields.

2. The font used in the message list pane is the Windows default font.
You can change it in the Windows appearance settings.
Also, you can change the column order. Right-click on any column header,
click Columns...

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OTBgtb2hIHA.4468@xxxxxx

> The layout of the message headers (From, To, Date, Subject etc) in WLM is markedly different from OE, and I find it quite
> annoying that:
>
> 1. the From: field for a new message that I'm composing is tucked away in the RHS of the screen instead of being aligned with
> the To: and Cc: fields etc; and
>
> 2. in all messages and newsgroup posts sent or received, the date is even more difficult to see -- it is light grey and is also
> tucked almost out of sight on the RHS of the screen.
>
> Is it possible for these to be more clearly displayed, eg, as they were in Outlook Express?
>
> Lindsay Graham
> Canberra, Australia

I prefer it as it is in WLM.

SteveT

Have you tried the various options on the Layout screen? I can't see that
the date is any more difficult to see than any of the other fields, and I
should have thought anyone could have found a layout to suit when there are
so many different permutations available (Reading pane right, bottom or off,
one-line or two-line listings in the Message list, Columns of your choosing
in the order you prefer, Folder pane on or off, Live Search pane on or off).
I'm attaching a screenshot of my own setup, but there are literally
thousands of ways of arranging the window.
--
Noel

"Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OTBgtb2hIHA.4468@xxxxxx

> The layout of the message headers (From, To, Date, Subject etc) in WLM is
> markedly different from OE, and I find it quite annoying that:
>
> 1. the From: field for a new message that I'm composing is tucked away
> in
> the RHS of the screen instead of being aligned with the To: and Cc: fields
> etc; and
>
> 2. in all messages and newsgroup posts sent or received, the date is even
> more difficult to see -- it is light grey and is also tucked almost out of
> sight on the RHS of the screen.
>
> Is it possible for these to be more clearly displayed, eg, as they were in
> Outlook Express?
>
> Lindsay Graham
> Canberra, Australia
>

Thanks for your reply, Gary.

1. I appreciate that there are differences, as you say, and I am familiar
with both of them. But these *differences* do not, to my mind, indicate any
*reasons* why the From field should not be aligned with the To and Subject
fields. They are aligned in Outlook Express -- apart from users being used
to that layout, it seems more *sensible* and *logical* and *user-friendly*
to align all of the headers in a similar fashion. Why change the OE layout
if it is not a measurable improvement?

2. Sorry if I did not make myself clear. I'm not talking about the Message
list pane, I'm referring to the layout of an individual message as in 1.
above. And, yes, I know you can change the column order (although I did not
know you could do it by R-click on the column header, so thank you for that.

Lindsay Graham

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OTuC5Q4hIHA.5208@xxxxxx

> 1. In a compose screen there are several reasons why the From field is
> not aligned with the To and Subject fields. The latter are fields you type
> into, while the From field is not. For users with multiple email addresses
> the From field is a dropdown list from which you select which account
> to send from. This makes it quite different from the other fields.
>
> 2. The font used in the message list pane is the Windows default font.
> You can change it in the Windows appearance settings.
> Also, you can change the column order. Right-click on any column header,
> click Columns...
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OTBgtb2hIHA.4468@xxxxxx

>> The layout of the message headers (From, To, Date, Subject etc) in WLM is
>> markedly different from OE, and I find it quite annoying that:
>>
>> 1. the From: field for a new message that I'm composing is tucked away
>> in the RHS of the screen instead of being aligned with the To: and Cc:
>> fields etc; and
>>
>> 2. in all messages and newsgroup posts sent or received, the date is
>> even more difficult to see -- it is light grey and is also tucked almost
>> out of sight on the RHS of the screen.
>>
>> Is it possible for these to be more clearly displayed, eg, as they were
>> in Outlook Express?
>>
>> Lindsay Graham
>> Canberra, Australia

>
>

Thanks, Noel, but I am well and truly familiar with all of the various
options on the Layout screen. Apart from the 2-line view (which seems of no
value at all to me) and Active Search (which I understand, but have not yet
used), all the layout options were available in Outlook Express.

As mentioned in a separate post responding to Gary VanderMolen, I'm not
referring to the Message list pane, but to the header display when a message
has been opened. If you read my original post with that view in mind, I'd
be interested in your further comments.

Lindsay Graham

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#AYgde6hIHA.6084@xxxxxx

> Have you tried the various options on the Layout screen? I can't see that
> the date is any more difficult to see than any of the other fields, and I
> should have thought anyone could have found a layout to suit when there
> are so many different permutations available (Reading pane right, bottom
> or off, one-line or two-line listings in the Message list, Columns of your
> choosing in the order you prefer, Folder pane on or off, Live Search pane
> on or off). I'm attaching a screenshot of my own setup, but there are
> literally thousands of ways of arranging the window.
> --
> Noel
>
> "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OTBgtb2hIHA.4468@xxxxxx

>> The layout of the message headers (From, To, Date, Subject etc) in WLM is
>> markedly different from OE, and I find it quite annoying that:
>>
>> 1. the From: field for a new message that I'm composing is tucked away
>> in
>> the RHS of the screen instead of being aligned with the To: and Cc:
>> fields
>> etc; and
>>
>> 2. in all messages and newsgroup posts sent or received, the date is
>> even
>> more difficult to see -- it is light grey and is also tucked almost out
>> of
>> sight on the RHS of the screen.
>>
>> Is it possible for these to be more clearly displayed, eg, as they were
>> in
>> Outlook Express?
>>
>> Lindsay Graham
>> Canberra, Australia
>>

>
>

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote

>
> It is probably too late to request such changes, now that Windows Live
> Mail
> is out of Beta.

When did it go out of Beta and what is the latest version?

November 6, 2007; build 12.0.1606

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Hawii Mahal" <hawa@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%236gy0A$hIHA.6084@xxxxxx

>
>
> "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote

>>
>> It is probably too late to request such changes, now that Windows Live Mail
>> is out of Beta.

> When did it go out of Beta and what is the latest version?