Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
Is there any plan to make WLM webbased so we can access from different
computers all around the world?
That would be a very nice product!

"Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFactory@xxxxxx> wrote in
message news:691291FD-E0FA-4CB1-94E8-41CF90A74A3D@xxxxxx

> Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
> My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.

Doesn't File | Import | Messages etc work?

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"Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFactory@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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[snip]

> Is there any plan to make WLM webbased so we can access from different
> computers all around the world?
> That would be a very nice product!

Windows Live Mail only synchronizes mail and contacts with web based Http accounts(Msn, Live, and Hotmail.com). Those same http
accounts and contacts accessible in WLM are also accessible via the Hotmail user web based interface(mail.live.com formerly
hotmail.com)

WLM does not sync email and contacts with standard pop3 email accounts, those most isp's that provide pop3 accounts also provide a
web based user interface for sending and retrieving mail and accessible from different internet capable computers on the planet.
Contact sync with the home-based local email client is usually not an option.


--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFactory@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:691291FD-E0FA-4CB1-94E8-41CF90A74A3D@xxxxxx

> Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
> My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
> Is there any plan to make WLM webbased so we can access from different
> computers all around the world?
> That would be a very nice product!

Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to the
web-based WLM?

Well, if you say that WLM is only for web-based HTTP email accounts and
such ---- then why DID Microsoft "forced" the replacement of my two
computers' Outlook Express with Live Mail Desktop (client)? All my POP3
accounts, as previously defined in OE, were transferred across - and now I
have a long list (left side pane) of these accounts. When I ran Live
Messenger, and accepted the prompt to download WLM Desktop, I did not
realise that that would meant the replacement of OE with WLM.

After the WLM<OE replacement, I found that I could not even retrieve old
messages from .DBX files. Until last week, I could retrieve mail merely by
creating a new folder in the same filename as the old DBX archive file I
want to access. Exit Outlook Express, swap the files around, open OE again
and presto, I could view all archived messages in that particular DBX file.

Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO NOT
offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you, this is also what OE
did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE accounts (i.e.
Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files associated with that OE user name).

In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM desktop?!
Likewise for "Dirk TechFactory" wanting to retrieve / import his PST files?

- Andrew


"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:258D9E25-87E2-4317-B0E8-B539F8A5A7FB@xxxxxx

> Windows Live Mail only synchronizes mail and contacts with web based Http
> accounts(Msn, Live, and Hotmail.com). Those same http accounts and
> contacts accessible in WLM are also accessible via the Hotmail user web
> based interface(mail.live.com formerly hotmail.com)
>
> WLM does not sync email and contacts with standard pop3 email accounts,
> those most isp's that provide pop3 accounts also provide a web based user
> interface for sending and retrieving mail and accessible from different
> internet capable computers on the planet. Contact sync with the home-based
> local email client is usually not an option.
>
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp windows live mail
>
>
> "Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFactory@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:691291FD-E0FA-4CB1-94E8-41CF90A74A3D@xxxxxx

>> Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
>> My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
>> Is there any plan to make WLM webbased so we can access from different
>> computers all around the world?
>> That would be a very nice product!

>

There seem to be a few things you have misunderstood. My comments inline...

"Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:13tv0ubghlrio34@xxxxxx

> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to the
> web-based WLM?

This newsgroup is dedicated to the mail and news client called Windows Live
Mail (which I choose to abbreviate to WLMail to avoid confusion with Windows
Live Messenger). It used to have the "desktop" suffix, but that was dropped
almost a year ago even though it lives on in the name of this forum. Beta
versions of what is now known as Windows Live Hotmail were for a time known
as Windows Live Mail, but no longer. I suppose that that is the "web-based
WLM" you refer to.

> Well, if you say that WLM is only for web-based HTTP email accounts and
> such ----

winston said that "Windows Live Mail only synchronizes mail and contacts
with web based Http accounts (Msn, Live, and Hotmail.com)." The operative
word here is "synchronizes", meaning that the client replicates what is on
the server and vice versa - including sent mail, junk, contacts and so on.
IMAP accounts synchronize messages, too, but POP3/SMTP are one-way services
to receive and send mail respectively.

> then why DID Microsoft "forced" the replacement of my two computers'
> Outlook Express with Live Mail Desktop (client)?

As you say later on, you elected to install WLMail; when you did so, it
tried to establish itself as your default email and news client, which was
presumably Outlook Express previously. It has not 'replaced' OE, just
removed the shortcuts to it from your Start menu etc. You can always start
it from All programs or by running msimn.exe, and you can run it
concurrently with WLMail - although I can't see why anyone would want to.
Just make sure that your settings on the Advanced tab of each account's
Properties sheet are as you want them if you want to download POP mail to
both clients.

> After the WLM<OE replacement, I found that I could not even retrieve old
> messages from .DBX files. Until last week, I could retrieve mail merely by
> creating a new folder in the same filename as the old DBX archive file I
> want to access. Exit Outlook Express, swap the files around, open OE again
> and presto, I could view all archived messages in that particular DBX
> file.

I have not tried importing messages from OE, but others have had no problem
with it. You have Storage folders in WLMail (View > Layout > Folder pane >
Show Storage folders) precisely to provide somewhere to archive messages. In
File > Import > Messages, you can specify which folders to import. You may
want to compact the OE folders before trying the Import function - this will
rectify many corruptions in the .dbx files, which is one of the reasons why
WLMail stores each message as a separate .eml file. Corruption will then
only affect that one file, not a whole database like .dbx.

Once you have imported all your old messages into WLMail and learnt to find
your way around it, you can forget about OE.
--
Noel

> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:258D9E25-87E2-4317-B0E8-B539F8A5A7FB@xxxxxx

>> Windows Live Mail only synchronizes mail and contacts with web based Http
>> accounts(Msn, Live, and Hotmail.com). Those same http accounts and
>> contacts accessible in WLM are also accessible via the Hotmail user web
>> based interface(mail.live.com formerly hotmail.com)
>>
>> WLM does not sync email and contacts with standard pop3 email accounts,
>> those most isp's that provide pop3 accounts also provide a web based user
>> interface for sending and retrieving mail and accessible from different
>> internet capable computers on the planet. Contact sync with the
>> home-based local email client is usually not an option.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>
>>
>> "Dirk TechFactory" <Dirk TechFactory@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:691291FD-E0FA-4CB1-94E8-41CF90A74A3D@xxxxxx

>>> Is there any possibility to import Outlook pst files?
>>> My outlook 2007 in Vista is extremely slow while WLM seems much faster.
>>> Is there any plan to make WLM webbased so we can access from different
>>> computers all around the world?
>>> That would be a very nice product!

>>

Inline, and adding to Ildhund's response.
--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:13tv0ubghlrio34@xxxxxx

> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to the

web-based WLM

Yes..this newsgroup is for Windows Live Mail(WLM), the desktop name(applied to the beta) and was dropped in Nov 2007.

The web based interface is Windows Live Hotmail(WLH not WLM) and discussion on Hotmail and Msn topics can be found here:
Nntp:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...msn.discussion
or
Web-interface: Http
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...msn.discussion

> Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO NOT offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you,
> this is also what OE did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE accounts (i.e. Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files
> associated with that OE user name).
>
> In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM desktop?!

Afaik, OE dbx files cannot be individually imported...though you may be able to fool WLM by creating a separate identity in OE void
of any other content, create a user folder if necessary of the same name as that used in the old OE identity(thereby creating a
blank dbx file of the same filename, then copy the single dbx file to the new OE store replacing the automatically created dbx file.
Copy the entire store contents(dbx and folders.dbx) to a different location on your hard drive then use WLM's
File/Import/Messages/Browse option to navigate(to the different location). Ymmv.
If the messages come in fine, then if necessary create a user folder in your email account and drag the messages out of the Imported
Folders subfolder into the user created folder. YMMV.

many thanks to Ildhund and Winston for their time replying.

Now I see that individual emails are saved as separate .EML files in the
WLM mail store. In a way, I am much in favour of that - given past
experience of corrupted DBX files from time to time. I have since used
Google Groups to locate a few other messages in this newsgroup,
specifically R. C. White's reply on 19th March 2008 on another thread
- describing the DBX files as independent of WLM files, so on.

Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
file, whose size is 652MB.

I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported) from
Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have a
single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.

I will check this newsgroup later to check past threads about how big
the Mail.MSMessageStore file can "safely" grow.

For my situation, I will either look for 3rd party software capable of
retrieving mails from DBX files as WLM-importable messages - or simply
use my old computer (Windows XP) to run msimn.exe to recreate Outlook
Express folders (what I've done in the past) as a new identity. Thence
import that into my existing (a week old as of now) WLM desktop <a.k.a.
the Mail.MSMessageStore file> using the WLM menu commands -
merging my main WLM (nee OE) identity with those old archives.

Looks like I must use WLM's Export > Messages > MS WLM option
to "backup" my WLM messages to a separate folder for archiving
purposes. I can't find any mention in WLM's Help file for archiving.

- Andrew


"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:FBF43110-3984-4AB8-AAEA-BD6432F40BC1@xxxxxx

> Inline, and adding to Ildhund's response.
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp windows live mail
>
>
> "Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:13tv0ubghlrio34@xxxxxx

>> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to
>> the

> web-based WLM
>
> Yes..this newsgroup is for Windows Live Mail(WLM), the desktop
> name(applied to the beta) and was dropped in Nov 2007.
>
> The web based interface is Windows Live Hotmail(WLH not WLM) and
> discussion on Hotmail and Msn topics can be found here:
> Nntp:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...msn.discussion
> or
> Web-interface: Http
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...msn.discussion
>
>

>> Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO
>> NOT offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you, this is also
>> what OE did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE accounts
>> (i.e. Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files associated with that OE user
>> name).
>>
>> In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM
>> desktop?!

>
> Afaik, OE dbx files cannot be individually imported...though you may be
> able to fool WLM by creating a separate identity in OE void of any other
> content, create a user folder if necessary of the same name as that used
> in the old OE identity(thereby creating a blank dbx file of the same
> filename, then copy the single dbx file to the new OE store replacing the
> automatically created dbx file. Copy the entire store contents(dbx and
> folders.dbx) to a different location on your hard drive then use WLM's
> File/Import/Messages/Browse option to navigate(to the different location).
> Ymmv.
> If the messages come in fine, then if necessary create a user folder in
> your email account and drag the messages out of the Imported Folders
> subfolder into the user created folder. YMMV.

"Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:13u7hnathnp606a@xxxxxx

> Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
> Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
> held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
> file, whose size is 652MB.
>
> I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported)
> from
> Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have
> a
> single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
> individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.

No, not quite. I think that if you look again, you'll find that your Store
folder contains more folders than those for each POP account. You should
find these newsgroup postings, for example, as .nws files in
appropriately-named folders. In Storage folders, you should see Recovered or
Imported items, which will contain individual .eml files for each of your
hundreds of imported messages. The MessageStore file also contains all your
messages in an indexed database - belt and braces. I haven't heard of any
problems with an overlarge MessageStore like people had with .dbx files. If
the MessageStore goes wrong, the program will reconstruct it from the
individual message files.

> Looks like I must use WLM's Export > Messages > MS WLM option
> to "backup" my WLM messages to a separate folder for archiving
> purposes. I can't find any mention in WLM's Help file for archiving.

That's as good a way as any. I just maintain a backup copy of my Store
folder on an external drive.
--
Noel

> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:FBF43110-3984-4AB8-AAEA-BD6432F40BC1@xxxxxx

>> Inline, and adding to Ildhund's response.
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>
>>
>> "Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:13tv0ubghlrio34@xxxxxx

>>> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to
>>> the

>> web-based WLM
>>
>> Yes..this newsgroup is for Windows Live Mail(WLM), the desktop
>> name(applied to the beta) and was dropped in Nov 2007.
>>
>> The web based interface is Windows Live Hotmail(WLH not WLM) and
>> discussion on Hotmail and Msn topics can be found here:
>> Nntp:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...msn.discussion
>> or
>> Web-interface: Http
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...msn.discussion
>>
>>

>>> Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO
>>> NOT offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you, this is also
>>> what OE did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE
>>> accounts (i.e. Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files associated with that
>>> OE user name).
>>>
>>> In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM
>>> desktop?!

>>
>> Afaik, OE dbx files cannot be individually imported...though you may be
>> able to fool WLM by creating a separate identity in OE void of any other
>> content, create a user folder if necessary of the same name as that used
>> in the old OE identity(thereby creating a blank dbx file of the same
>> filename, then copy the single dbx file to the new OE store replacing the
>> automatically created dbx file. Copy the entire store contents(dbx and
>> folders.dbx) to a different location on your hard drive then use WLM's
>> File/Import/Messages/Browse option to navigate(to the different
>> location). Ymmv.
>> If the messages come in fine, then if necessary create a user folder in
>> your email account and drag the messages out of the Imported Folders
>> subfolder into the user created folder. YMMV.

>

Inline

"Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:13u9v71dl9b945f@xxxxxx

> many thanks to Ildhund and Winston for their time replying.
>
> Now I see that individual emails are saved as separate .EML files in the
> WLM mail store. In a way, I am much in favour of that - given past
> experience of corrupted DBX files from time to time. I have since used
> Google Groups to locate a few other messages in this newsgroup,
> specifically R. C. White's reply on 19th March 2008 on another thread
> - describing the DBX files as independent of WLM files, so on.
>
> Based on what you (Ildhund) said, I looked around for my WLM files via
> Windows Explorer. Yet I don't find EML files there - apart from mail items
> held within each POP3 account. I also located a "Mail.MSMessageStore"
> file, whose size is 652MB.
>
> I presume this is the one that has all other mails retrieved (imported)
> from
> Outlook Express where I had tens of archive folders. So that means I have
> a
> single file for all "storage folders", each containing up to 300's of
> individual mails previously held in my OE7 mail package.

Your presumption is not correct.
Each account has a folder and Storage folders has a folder.
Imported messages are eml files in folders in Storage folders.

"Mail.MSMessageStore" is a database of all the messages in WLM.
--
Ronald Sommer

>
> I will check this newsgroup later to check past threads about how big
> the Mail.MSMessageStore file can "safely" grow.
>
> For my situation, I will either look for 3rd party software capable of
> retrieving mails from DBX files as WLM-importable messages - or simply
> use my old computer (Windows XP) to run msimn.exe to recreate Outlook
> Express folders (what I've done in the past) as a new identity. Thence
> import that into my existing (a week old as of now) WLM desktop <a.k.a.
> the Mail.MSMessageStore file> using the WLM menu commands -
> merging my main WLM (nee OE) identity with those old archives.
>
> Looks like I must use WLM's Export > Messages > MS WLM option
> to "backup" my WLM messages to a separate folder for archiving
> purposes. I can't find any mention in WLM's Help file for archiving.
>
> - Andrew
>
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:FBF43110-3984-4AB8-AAEA-BD6432F40BC1@xxxxxx

>> Inline, and adding to Ildhund's response.
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>
>>
>> "Andrew Niklaus" <pcinfo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:13tv0ubghlrio34@xxxxxx

>>> Is this not the WLM Desktop discussion / help newsgroup? As opposed to
>>> the

>> web-based WLM
>>
>> Yes..this newsgroup is for Windows Live Mail(WLM), the desktop
>> name(applied to the beta) and was dropped in Nov 2007.
>>
>> The web based interface is Windows Live Hotmail(WLH not WLM) and
>> discussion on Hotmail and Msn topics can be found here:
>> Nntp:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...msn.discussion
>> or
>> Web-interface: Http
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...msn.discussion
>>
>>

>>> Now I cannot. Also, the WLM desktop client software on both computers DO
>>> NOT offer a way to import individual DBX files. Mind you, this is also
>>> what OE did not - they both merely have a way to import whole OE
>>> accounts (i.e. Inbox.dbx and all related DBX files associated with that
>>> OE user name).
>>>
>>> In short, how can I retrieve a specific DBX file when running WLM
>>> desktop?!

>>
>> Afaik, OE dbx files cannot be individually imported...though you may be
>> able to fool WLM by creating a separate identity in OE void of any other
>> content, create a user folder if necessary of the same name as that used
>> in the old OE identity(thereby creating a blank dbx file of the same
>> filename, then copy the single dbx file to the new OE store replacing the
>> automatically created dbx file. Copy the entire store contents(dbx and
>> folders.dbx) to a different location on your hard drive then use WLM's
>> File/Import/Messages/Browse option to navigate(to the different
>> location). Ymmv.
>> If the messages come in fine, then if necessary create a user folder in
>> your email account and drag the messages out of the Imported Folders
>> subfolder into the user created folder. YMMV.

>