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Re: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective

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Old 03-18-2008   #1 (permalink)
...winston
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Re: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective

Did you disable then enable 'send receive messages' at startup ?


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"fastoy" <benamoore@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1dc91d6d-9d04-438d-a3a6-da4f26220230@xxxxxx
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> I have been running with "Send and receive messages at startup"
> unchecked. Today when my Internet connection failed and I disabled/
> enabled it, Windows Live Mail downloaded my POP3 mail without my
> action. I have observed this before, mostly after rebooting and then
> starting WLM.
>
> How do I prevent this?
>
> I am running Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606).
Old 03-19-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective

> [Subject: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective]

I think that option is only to prevent an automatic connection
with a mail server as soon as the application is opened.
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> Windows Live Mail downloaded my POP3 mail without my action.
Quote:

> How do I prevent this?
Depends what you mean by "without my action".

Don't open the Inbox. Or if you do, enter it only when
in a Working Offline state.

Otherwise what WLMail might try to do when you enter the Inbox
seems undefined. E.g. you would have to test and find out empirically
what it does. I wouldn't rely on the troubleshooting log to find out
either. Use netcap to find out for sure.

FWIW OE doesn't do that. You have to at least press F5 (Refresh)
but then that isn't a particularly well defined function either IMO.
E.g. it is not as clear as Send and Receive this account only,
which is what I think it may do.


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"fastoy" <benamoore@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1dc91d6d-9d04-438d-a3a6-da4f26220230@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I have been running with "Send and receive messages at startup"
> unchecked. Today when my Internet connection failed and I disabled/
> enabled it, Windows Live Mail downloaded my POP3 mail without my
> action. I have observed this before, mostly after rebooting and then
> starting WLM.
>
> How do I prevent this?
>
> I am running Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606).

Old 04-04-2008   #3 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen
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Re: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective

Have you unchecked "Check for new messages every xx minutes"?

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"fastoy" <benamoore@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:bbe0ed64-3568-485c-b866-3356515ff5b7@xxxxxx
On Mar 19, 1:18 pm, "Robert Aldwinckle" <rob...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

> > [Subject: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective]
>
> I think that option is only to prevent an automatic connection
> with a mail server as soon as the application is opened.
>
Then how do I make WLM only download my POP3 mail when I click on Send/
Receive?
Quote:
Quote:

> > Windows Live Mail downloaded my POP3 mail without my action.
> > How do I prevent this?
>
> Depends what you mean by "without my action".
Pretty simple. "Without my action" means without me doing anything.
Seems straightforward enough to me.
Quote:

>
> Don't open the Inbox. Or if you do, enter it only when
> in a Working Offline state.
"Don't open the Inbox." That makes an e-mail program pretty worthless.
Quote:

>
> Otherwise what WLMail might try to do when you enter the Inbox
> seems undefined. E.g. you would have to test and find out empirically
> what it does. I wouldn't rely on the troubleshooting log to find out
> either. Use netcap to find out for sure.
My empirical tests show that WLM downloads my e-mail when I don't ask
it to.

WLM did it again tonight when I hibernated and resumed. When the
wireless connection was re-established, WLM downloaded all my e-mail.
Quote:

>
> FWIW OE doesn't do that. You have to at least press F5 (Refresh)
> but then that isn't a particularly well defined function either IMO.
> E.g. it is not as clear as Send and Receive this account only,
> which is what I think it may do.
I'm not talking about Outlook Express.


Old 04-04-2008   #4 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective

"fastoy" <benamoore@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:bbe0ed64-3568-485c-b866-3356515ff5b7@xxxxxx
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> On Mar 19, 1:18pm, "Robert Aldwinckle" <rob...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> > [Subject: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective]
>>
>> I think that option is only to prevent an automatic connection
>> with a mail server as soon as the application is opened.
>>
>
> Then how do I make WLM only download my POP3 mail when I click on Send/
> Receive?

That would depend on what you see in the Send and Receive menu...

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>
Quote:
Quote:

>> > Windows Live Mail downloaded my POP3 mail without my action.
>> > How do I prevent this?
>>
>> Depends what you mean by "without my action".
>
> Pretty simple. "Without my action" means without me doing anything.
> Seems straightforward enough to me.

Are you entering the Inbox when WLMail is in Working Online
state? If so, you may be taking an action.

Quote:

>
Quote:

>>
>> Don't open the Inbox. Or if you do, enter it only when
>> in a Working Offline state.
>
> "Don't open the Inbox." That makes an e-mail program pretty worthless.
You could use it in a Working Offline state.
Alternatively you could use it via a Ctrl-Shift-F (Find)
for all messages received today or earlier. (Alt-c,F4,Enter)

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>
Quote:

>>
>> Otherwise what WLMail might try to do when you enter the Inbox
>> seems undefined. E.g. you would have to test and find out empirically
>> what it does. I wouldn't rely on the troubleshooting log to find out
>> either. Use netcap to find out for sure.
>
> My empirical tests show that WLM downloads my e-mail when I don't ask
> it to.

If you don't disclose your "tests" and observations
we can't help.

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>
> WLM did it again tonight when I hibernated and resumed. When the
> wireless connection was re-established, WLM downloaded all my e-mail.

One thing about WLMail that annoys me in this regard
is that even without an E-mail account and without
Use newsgroup Communities supprot features checked
and without
Automatically log on to Windows Live Messenger checked
and without
Connecting to Windows Live Services (e.g. Stop signing in
was used in Connection tab)
I have *still* seen WLMail waking up and trying to connect
to something periodically (e.g. with a prompt asking me
if I want to get go online.)

Nevertheless, I *do* get a prompt, so it *does* pay attention
to Work Offline (after a fashion.)

Have you tried setting Work Offline *before* you hibernate?


HTH

Robert
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Quote:

>>
>> FWIW OE doesn't do that. You have to at least press F5 (Refresh)
>> but then that isn't a particularly well defined function either IMO.
>> E.g. it is not as clear as Send and Receive this account only,
>> which is what I think it may do.
>
> I'm not talking about Outlook Express.

Just giving you an example of the sort of detail that you
should be considering for analysing your symptom.


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Old 04-05-2008   #5 (permalink)
Ron Sommer
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Re: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not Effective



"fastoy" <benamoore@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:bbe0ed64-3568-485c-b866-3356515ff5b7@xxxxxx
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> On Mar 19, 1:18 pm, "Robert Aldwinckle" <rob...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> > [Subject: Unchecked "Send and receive messages at startup" Not
>> > Effective]
>>
>> I think that option is only to prevent an automatic connection
>> with a mail server as soon as the application is opened.
>>
>
> Then how do I make WLM only download my POP3 mail when I click on Send/
> Receive?
>
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Tools, Accounts, Properties, uncheck Include this account when sending and
receiving.
When you want to check that account, click on the send/receive menu arrow,
select the account.
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