Re: Spell Check English

03-25-2008

Gary

I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, but
your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an Australianism.

What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in
Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to have
your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows Mail or
Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, but only a
tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware of the way to
use Office you mention.

Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a statement of
fact.

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various other
> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and UK.
> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US makes it
> a priority?
>
> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available
> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently found a
> way
> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that program.
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news

71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% of >> words >> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use the >> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we have >> both >> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why not >> in >> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the world >> population?

>
>

03-25-2008

Bill, all the regulars (in W.L.M.D, at least) make stupid remarks on
occasion, but they are not usually malicious. WLMail is a brand new app,
released just four months ago. For the most part, it works well, but there
are rough edges that need smoothing off - and we fully expect that many of
them will be in the first update. That the Language boys - and Accessibility
and HTML and probably others - weren't quite ready to go Gold when the main
team was is an MS problem that we users have to live with. In the meantime,
take advantage of the workarounds that users have unearthed to make using
these apps even more pleasurable. I can't speak for WM (I'm still waiting
for Vista to settle down), but there are solutions available for most users
looking for effective spell checking in WLMail.

It's not really relevant, but I can't resist quoting "Never ascribe to
malice that which can reasonably be explained by incompetence."
--
Noel

"Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Gary
>
> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, but
> your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an Australianism.
>
> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in
> Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to have
> your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows Mail
> or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, but
> only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware of
> the way to use Office you mention.
>
> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a statement
> of fact.
>
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>
>
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> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various other
>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and UK.
>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US makes it
>> a priority?
>>
>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available
>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently found a
>> way
>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that
>> program.
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news

71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% of >>> words >>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use the >>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we have >>> both >>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why not >>> in >>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the world >>> population?

>>
>>

>

03-25-2008

I doubt that any of us could tell you why the dictionaries are so few. We
don't work for MS.
I personally don't expect to see any further updates to Windows Mail, since
WLM is it's heir apparent.

--
Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

"Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Gary
>
> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, but
> your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an Australianism.
>
> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in
> Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to have
> your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows Mail
> or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, but
> only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware of
> the way to use Office you mention.
>
> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a statement
> of fact.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various other
>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and UK.
>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US makes it
>> a priority?
>>
>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available
>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently found a
>> way
>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that
>> program.
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news

71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% of >>> words >>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use the >>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we have >>> both >>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why not >>> in >>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the world >>> population?

>>
>>

>

03-25-2008

Bill, I am sorry you took offense to my remarks, but I stand by
the gist of it.

We responders are not here to make apologies for apparent omissions
by Microsoft. We offer workarounds where available. It is a waste of
time to lament about what might have been. Microsoft is under no
obligation to make Office dictionaries as easily available for use in
Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail as it was with OE. Sometimes
a business makes a strategic retrenchment (which sounds better than
saying 'stupid omission'). ;-)
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

"Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Gary
>
> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, but your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to
> use an Australianism.
>
> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been
> possible to have your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a
> hack available in Live Mail, but only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware of the way to use Office
> you mention.
>
> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a statement of fact.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various other
>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and UK.
>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US makes it
>> a priority?
>>
>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available
>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently found a way
>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that program.
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message news

71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% of words >>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use the >>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we have both >>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why not in >>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the world >>> population?

03-25-2008

It's by design. ;-)

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OoQXYQrjIHA.5084@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Bill, I am sorry you took offense to my remarks, but I stand by
> the gist of it.
>
> We responders are not here to make apologies for apparent omissions
> by Microsoft. We offer workarounds where available. It is a waste of
> time to lament about what might have been. Microsoft is under no
> obligation to make Office dictionaries as easily available for use in
> Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail as it was with OE. Sometimes
> a business makes a strategic retrenchment (which sounds better than
> saying 'stupid omission'). ;-)
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Gary
>>
>> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, but
>> your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an
>> Australianism.
>>
>> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in
>> Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to have
>> your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows Mail
>> or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, but
>> only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware of
>> the way to use Office you mention.
>>
>> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a statement
>> of fact.
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various >>> other >>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and >>> UK. >>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US makes >>> it >>> a priority? >>> >>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available >>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently found a >>> way >>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that >>> program. >>> -- >>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) >>> >>> >>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx >>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% of >>>> words >>>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use the >>>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we >>>> have both >>>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why not >>>> in >>>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the world >>>> population?

>
>

03-26-2008

i have no problem w/ english dict.
i ve tried to install the German dict.
in WLM
i click Availible
then click install .
it goes to In queue and nothing happin
i click Apply nothing happin
its not Downloading
WLM it does have all its defaults
Preinstall Vista Home Basic 32 bi
came w/ WM, i added WLM

--
confused

"Bob" wrote:

Quote:

> It's by design. ;-)
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OoQXYQrjIHA.5084@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > Bill, I am sorry you took offense to my remarks, but I stand by
> > the gist of it.
> >
> > We responders are not here to make apologies for apparent omissions
> > by Microsoft. We offer workarounds where available. It is a waste of
> > time to lament about what might have been. Microsoft is under no
> > obligation to make Office dictionaries as easily available for use in
> > Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail as it was with OE. Sometimes
> > a business makes a strategic retrenchment (which sounds better than
> > saying 'stupid omission'). ;-)
> > --
> > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
> >
> >
> > "Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	> >> Gary > >> > >> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, but > >> your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an > >> Australianism. > >> > >> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in > >> Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to have > >> your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows Mail > >> or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, but > >> only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware of > >> the way to use Office you mention. > >> > >> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a statement > >> of fact. > >> > >> > >> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx > >>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various > >>> other > >>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and > >>> UK. > >>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US makes > >>> it > >>> a priority? > >>> > >>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available > >>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently found a > >>> way > >>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that > >>> program. > >>> -- > >>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) > >>> > >>> > >>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> news71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx > >>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% of > >>>> words > >>>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use the > >>>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we > >>>> have both > >>>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why not > >>>> in > >>>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the world > >>>> population?

> >
> >

>
>

03-26-2008

Heh, I have English, French and German working properly, but Spanish won't
reliably spell check E-Mails. Spanish is the one that I wish would work, of
course.

Earle

"silver hair" <silverhair@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B9C0EF94-0B0B-456E-836B-E41B967C2CEB@xxxxxx

Quote:

> i have no problem w/ english dict.
> i ve tried to install the German dict.
> in WLM
> i click Availible
> then click install .
> it goes to In queue and nothing happin
> i click Apply nothing happin
> its not Downloading
> WLM it does have all its defaults
> Preinstall Vista Home Basic 32 bi
> came w/ WM, i added WLM
>
> --
> confused
>
>
> "Bob" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> It's by design. ;-)
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OoQXYQrjIHA.5084@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> > Bill, I am sorry you took offense to my remarks, but I stand by >> > the gist of it. >> > >> > We responders are not here to make apologies for apparent omissions >> > by Microsoft. We offer workarounds where available. It is a waste of >> > time to lament about what might have been. Microsoft is under no >> > obligation to make Office dictionaries as easily available for use in >> > Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail as it was with OE. Sometimes >> > a business makes a strategic retrenchment (which sounds better than >> > saying 'stupid omission'). ;-) >> > -- >> > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) >> > >> > >> > "Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, >> >> but >> >> your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an >> >> Australianism. >> >> >> >> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in >> >> Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to >> >> have >> >> your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows >> >> Mail >> >> or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, but >> >> only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware >> >> of >> >> the way to use Office you mention. >> >> >> >> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a >> >> statement >> >> of fact. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx >> >>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various >> >>> other >> >>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US and >> >>> UK. >> >>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US >> >>> makes >> >>> it >> >>> a priority? >> >>> >> >>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks available >> >>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently >> >>> found a >> >>> way >> >>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that >> >>> program. >> >>> -- >> >>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >>> news71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx >> >>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. 70% >> >>>> of >> >>>> words >> >>>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use >> >>>> the >> >>>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we >> >>>> have both >> >>>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why >> >>>> not >> >>>> in >> >>>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the >> >>>> world >> >>>> population? >> > >> >

>>
>>

03-26-2008

Under which program, Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail? Your message
was crossposted to the newsgroups for both programs.

"Earle Horton" <0123456@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BB20CEA5-D9A7-4A91-BCE7-0EEB431EDABA@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Heh, I have English, French and German working properly, but Spanish won't
> reliably spell check E-Mails. Spanish is the one that I wish would work,
> of course.
>
> Earle
>
> "silver hair" <silverhair@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B9C0EF94-0B0B-456E-836B-E41B967C2CEB@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> i have no problem w/ english dict.
>> i ve tried to install the German dict.
>> in WLM
>> i click Availible
>> then click install .
>> it goes to In queue and nothing happin
>> i click Apply nothing happin
>> its not Downloading
>> WLM it does have all its defaults
>> Preinstall Vista Home Basic 32 bi
>> came w/ WM, i added WLM
>>
>> --
>> confused
>>
>>
>> "Bob" wrote:
>>

	Quote:
	>>> It's by design. ;-) >>> >>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:OoQXYQrjIHA.5084@xxxxxx >>> > Bill, I am sorry you took offense to my remarks, but I stand by >>> > the gist of it. >>> > >>> > We responders are not here to make apologies for apparent omissions >>> > by Microsoft. We offer workarounds where available. It is a waste of >>> > time to lament about what might have been. Microsoft is under no >>> > obligation to make Office dictionaries as easily available for use in >>> > Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail as it was with OE. Sometimes >>> > a business makes a strategic retrenchment (which sounds better than >>> > saying 'stupid omission'). ;-) >>> > -- >>> > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) >>> > >>> > >>> > "Bill" <willy@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> > news:O7lUioqjIHA.1132@xxxxxx >>> >> Gary >>> >> >>> >> I respect you for the assistance you give to people in these groups, >>> >> but >>> >> your remarks on this occasion are bloody stupid - to use an >>> >> Australianism. >>> >> >>> >> What many, including myself, cannot understand is why, for years, in >>> >> Outlook Express and the Office suites it has always been possible to >>> >> have >>> >> your local "brand" of English as the dictionary, but not in Windows >>> >> Mail >>> >> or Windows Live Mail. Yes, there is a hack available in Live Mail, >>> >> but >>> >> only a tiny percentage of users would be aware. I'm certainly unaware >>> >> of >>> >> the way to use Office you mention. >>> >> >>> >> Our point of view is not provincialism as you say, but really a >>> >> statement >>> >> of fact. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> >> news:u1EjVWqjIHA.4536@xxxxxx >>> >>> Don't be so provincial! "English" is a group name that has various >>> >>> other >>> >>> spelling subgroups such as Canadian and Australian, as well as US >>> >>> and >>> >>> UK. >>> >>> Do you suppose the fact that Microsoft headquarters is in the US >>> >>> makes >>> >>> it >>> >>> a priority? >>> >>> >>> >>> As Robert already informed you, Windows Live Mail has hacks >>> >>> available >>> >>> for the various English subgroups. In addition, someone recently >>> >>> found a >>> >>> way >>> >>> to use any language Office 97-2003 spelling dictionaries for that >>> >>> program. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Denis Wray" <Denis Wray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> >>> news71B04DF-C7BB-4A0E-9DAC-D27F80D9B809@xxxxxx >>> >>>> Why does this not say American and why is English not available. >>> >>>> 70% of >>> >>>> words >>> >>>> highlighted have the correct spelling and mail simply wants to use >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> American corruptions. In virtually every other Microsoft product we >>> >>>> have both >>> >>>> English (American) and English (True or UK as normally quoted). Why >>> >>>> not >>> >>>> in >>> >>>> this product after all Americans only make up some 4 or 5% of the >>> >>>> world >>> >>>> population? >>> > >>> > >>> >>>

03-26-2008

WLM, didn't see the cross post. Right now, I'm typing with Spanish (Spain,
International Sort) enabled for spell check as I type and nothing is
underlined. If I switch the input language to either English, French or
German the results are as expected. Spanish works "sometimes" but there is
no way to predict whether it will or not.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

<robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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