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Old 03-28-2008   #1 (permalink)
John Saunders [MVP]
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New Problem - "From" Address format in "Microsoft Communities"

I've tried to use the "Microsoft Communities" support to respond to
newsgroup messages, but it's been complaining about:
---------
Unable to send or receive messages for the Microsoft Communities account.
Windows Live Mail could not post your message.

Subject 'Re: ...'
Server Error: 441
Server Response: 441 (603) Article Rejected -- Missing 'From:' field
Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCCA9
Protocol: NNTP
Port: 119
Secure(SSL): No
--------

It is doing this for two messages I sent a couple of days ago. For new
messages, they go through, but with a from address saying "From:
<john.saunders at trizetto.com>". A message I posted through the "normal"
newsgroup says "From: "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at
trizetto.com>".

The messages in question are in
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservices: Message-ID:
<unnrqQnjIHA.2268@xxxxxx> and Message-ID:
<OZphx1QkIHA.5820@xxxxxx>.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System Developer



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Old 03-28-2008   #2 (permalink)
Ildhund
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Re: New Problem - "From" Address format in "Microsoft Communities"

I've no idea, John - but could it be that whatever is in the From field (ie.
the email address field on the General tab of the account properties) has to
be properly formed? Ie. something like at least <string@xxxxxx>, with
no spaces. The Communities server, which acts as a proxy, may not be as
forgiving as the NNTP server.
A quick RFC check gave:
RFC850
2.1.3 From
The From line contains the electronic mailing address of the person who
sent the message, in the ARPA internet syntax. It may optionally also
contain the full name of the person, in parentheses, after the electronic
address...
RFC2822
3.4.1. Addr-spec specification
An addr-spec is a specific Internet identifier that contains a locally
interpreted string followed by the at-sign character ("@", ASCII value 64)
followed by an Internet domain...
--
Noel

"John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at trizetto.com> wrote in message
news:#R1HHLRkIHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I've tried to use the "Microsoft Communities" support to respond to
> newsgroup messages, but it's been complaining about:
> ---------
> Unable to send or receive messages for the Microsoft Communities account.
> Windows Live Mail could not post your message.
>
> Subject 'Re: ...'
> Server Error: 441
> Server Response: 441 (603) Article Rejected -- Missing 'From:' field
> Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCCA9
> Protocol: NNTP
> Port: 119
> Secure(SSL): No
> --------
>
> It is doing this for two messages I sent a couple of days ago. For new
> messages, they go through, but with a from address saying "From:
> <john.saunders at trizetto.com>". A message I posted through the "normal"
> newsgroup says "From: "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at
> trizetto.com>".
>
> The messages in question are in
> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservices: Message-ID:
> <unnrqQnjIHA.2268@xxxxxx> and Message-ID:
> <OZphx1QkIHA.5820@xxxxxx>.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System Developer
>
>
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Old 03-28-2008   #3 (permalink)
Earle Horton
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Re: New Problem - "From" Address format in "Microsoft Communities"

I have been posting to Microsoft Communities aka msnews.microsoft.com using
"0123456@xxxxxx", as you can see. Under Windows Live Mail, this goes in
Tools, Accounts, Properties, E-mail address. Although this is not a valid
address, apparently it uses a valid address format.

Cheers,

Earle

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eO1veBSkIHA.5280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I've no idea, John - but could it be that whatever is in the From field
> (ie. the email address field on the General tab of the account properties)
> has to be properly formed? Ie. something like at least
> <string@xxxxxx>, with no spaces. The Communities server, which acts
> as a proxy, may not be as forgiving as the NNTP server.
> A quick RFC check gave:
> RFC850
> 2.1.3 From
> The From line contains the electronic mailing address of the person who
> sent the message, in the ARPA internet syntax. It may optionally also
> contain the full name of the person, in parentheses, after the
> electronic address...
> RFC2822
> 3.4.1. Addr-spec specification
> An addr-spec is a specific Internet identifier that contains a locally
> interpreted string followed by the at-sign character ("@", ASCII value 64)
> followed by an Internet domain...
> --
> Noel
>
> "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at trizetto.com> wrote in message
> news:#R1HHLRkIHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I've tried to use the "Microsoft Communities" support to respond to
>> newsgroup messages, but it's been complaining about:
>> ---------
>> Unable to send or receive messages for the Microsoft Communities account.
>> Windows Live Mail could not post your message.
>>
>> Subject 'Re: ...'
>> Server Error: 441
>> Server Response: 441 (603) Article Rejected -- Missing 'From:' field
>> Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com'
>> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCCA9
>> Protocol: NNTP
>> Port: 119
>> Secure(SSL): No
>> --------
>>
>> It is doing this for two messages I sent a couple of days ago. For new
>> messages, they go through, but with a from address saying "From:
>> <john.saunders at trizetto.com>". A message I posted through the "normal"
>> newsgroup says "From: "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at
>> trizetto.com>".
>>
>> The messages in question are in
>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservices: Message-ID:
>> <unnrqQnjIHA.2268@xxxxxx> and Message-ID:
>> <OZphx1QkIHA.5820@xxxxxx>.
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System Developer
>>
>>
>
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Old 03-28-2008   #4 (permalink)
R. C. White
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Re: New Problem - "From" Address format in "Microsoft Communities"

Hi, John.

Does your address really say " at "? Instead of "@"?

I notice that your post shows that form of address (see Snip attached).
Your post yesterday (3/27/08) also shows that same " at " format. These two
posts are the only ones that I can recall that did NOT include "@" in the
address.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at trizetto.com> wrote in message
news:#R1HHLRkIHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I've tried to use the "Microsoft Communities" support to respond to
> newsgroup messages, but it's been complaining about:
> ---------
> Unable to send or receive messages for the Microsoft Communities account.
> Windows Live Mail could not post your message.
>
> Subject 'Re: ...'
> Server Error: 441
> Server Response: 441 (603) Article Rejected -- Missing 'From:' field
> Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCCA9
> Protocol: NNTP
> Port: 119
> Secure(SSL): No
> --------
>
> It is doing this for two messages I sent a couple of days ago. For new
> messages, they go through, but with a from address saying "From:
> <john.saunders at trizetto.com>". A message I posted through the "normal"
> newsgroup says "From: "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at
> trizetto.com>".
>
> The messages in question are in
> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservices: Message-ID:
> <unnrqQnjIHA.2268@xxxxxx> and Message-ID:
> <OZphx1QkIHA.5820@xxxxxx>.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System Developer
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-29-2008   #5 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen
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Re: New Problem - "From" Address format in "Microsoft Communities"

As long as the address format is proper, it doesn't matter if the
address doesn't exist. I use gary@xxxxxxlid. The .invalid TLD is
RFC-recommended for a non-existent address.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Earle Horton" <0123456@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9E0316AA-F8F6-4875-86BC-CA38BF6202BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have been posting to Microsoft Communities aka msnews.microsoft.com using "0123456@xxxxxx", as you can see. Under Windows
>Live Mail, this goes in Tools, Accounts, Properties, E-mail address. Although this is not a valid address, apparently it uses a
>valid address format.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eO1veBSkIHA.5280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I've no idea, John - but could it be that whatever is in the From field (ie. the email address field on the General tab of the
>> account properties) has to be properly formed? Ie. something like at least <string@xxxxxx>, with no spaces. The
>> Communities server, which acts as a proxy, may not be as forgiving as the NNTP server.
>> A quick RFC check gave:
>> RFC850
>> 2.1.3 From
>> The From line contains the electronic mailing address of the person who sent the message, in the ARPA internet syntax. It
>> may optionally also contain the full name of the person, in parentheses, after the electronic address...
>> RFC2822
>> 3.4.1. Addr-spec specification
>> An addr-spec is a specific Internet identifier that contains a locally interpreted string followed by the at-sign character
>> ("@", ASCII value 64) followed by an Internet domain...
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at trizetto.com> wrote in message news:#R1HHLRkIHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I've tried to use the "Microsoft Communities" support to respond to newsgroup messages, but it's been complaining about:
>>> ---------
>>> Unable to send or receive messages for the Microsoft Communities account.
>>> Windows Live Mail could not post your message.
>>>
>>> Subject 'Re: ...'
>>> Server Error: 441
>>> Server Response: 441 (603) Article Rejected -- Missing 'From:' field
>>> Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com'
>>> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCCA9
>>> Protocol: NNTP
>>> Port: 119
>>> Secure(SSL): No
>>> --------
>>>
>>> It is doing this for two messages I sent a couple of days ago. For new messages, they go through, but with a from address
>>> saying "From: <john.saunders at trizetto.com>". A message I posted through the "normal" newsgroup says "From: "John Saunders
>>> [MVP]" <john.saunders at trizetto.com>".
>>>
>>> The messages in question are in microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservices: Message-ID:
>>> <unnrqQnjIHA.2268@xxxxxx> and Message-ID: <OZphx1QkIHA.5820@xxxxxx>.
>>> --
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System Developer
>>>
>>>
>>

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Old 04-03-2008   #6 (permalink)
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Re: New Problem - "From" Address format in "Microsoft Communities"



"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#G$pvIWkIHA.5540@xxxxxx
Quote:

> As long as the address format is proper, it doesn't matter if the
> address doesn't exist. I use gary@xxxxxxlid. The .invalid TLD is
> RFC-recommended for a non-existent address.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <0123456@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:9E0316AA-F8F6-4875-86BC-CA38BF6202BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I have been posting to Microsoft Communities aka msnews.microsoft.com
>>using "0123456@xxxxxx", as you can see. Under Windows Live Mail, this
>>goes in Tools, Accounts, Properties, E-mail address. Although this is not
>>a valid address, apparently it uses a valid address format.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eO1veBSkIHA.5280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I've no idea, John - but could it be that whatever is in the From field
>>> (ie. the email address field on the General tab of the account
>>> properties) has to be properly formed? Ie. something like at least
>>> <string@xxxxxx>, with no spaces. The Communities server, which
>>> acts as a proxy, may not be as forgiving as the NNTP server.
>>> A quick RFC check gave:
>>> RFC850
>>> 2.1.3 From
>>> The From line contains the electronic mailing address of the person
>>> who sent the message, in the ARPA internet syntax. It may optionally
>>> also contain the full name of the person, in parentheses, after the
>>> electronic address...
>>> RFC2822
>>> 3.4.1. Addr-spec specification
>>> An addr-spec is a specific Internet identifier that contains a locally
>>> interpreted string followed by the at-sign character ("@", ASCII value
>>> 64) followed by an Internet domain...
>>> --
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at trizetto.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#R1HHLRkIHA.1280@xxxxxx
>>>> I've tried to use the "Microsoft Communities" support to respond to
>>>> newsgroup messages, but it's been complaining about:
>>>> ---------
>>>> Unable to send or receive messages for the Microsoft Communities
>>>> account.
>>>> Windows Live Mail could not post your message.
>>>>
>>>> Subject 'Re: ...'
>>>> Server Error: 441
>>>> Server Response: 441 (603) Article Rejected -- Missing 'From:' field
>>>> Server: 'msnews.microsoft.com'
>>>> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCCA9
>>>> Protocol: NNTP
>>>> Port: 119
>>>> Secure(SSL): No
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>> It is doing this for two messages I sent a couple of days ago. For new
>>>> messages, they go through, but with a from address saying "From:
>>>> <john.saunders at trizetto.com>". A message I posted through the
>>>> "normal" newsgroup says "From: "John Saunders [MVP]" <john.saunders at
>>>> trizetto.com>".
>>>>
>>>> The messages in question are in
>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webservices: Message-ID:
>>>> <unnrqQnjIHA.2268@xxxxxx> and Message-ID:
>>>> <OZphx1QkIHA.5820@xxxxxx>.
>>>> --
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System
>>>> Developer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Ok, let's try this one. I've added this newsgroup under Microsoft
Communities. Indeed, I can't send it (one or more recipients do not have an
email address).

Now, trying again, I've added X0@xxxxxx as an address. Let's see if
this works.

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John Saunders | MVP - Windows Server System - Connected System Developer


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