"Reclaim space on closing" Error

04-02-2008

When closing Windows Live, it usually if not always ask if I want to
reclaim spaced. A no answer is find, but if I select yes, it takes a few
seconds and then decides that another process is locking the file.

What gives?

Yea, if you need it I will record the exact messages, I just keep
forgetting to do that.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

04-02-2008

"Windows Live" includes a whole suite of programs. I assume you meant
Windows Live Mail. Open Windows Live Mail, and without doing anything
in it, close it. This time when you answer yes to that prompt, it should
be successful.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

"Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u2g97BOlIHA.5260@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	> When closing Windows Live, it usually if not always ask if I want to reclaim spaced. A no answer is find, but if I select > yes, it takes a few seconds and then decides that another process is locking the file. > > What gives? > > Yea, if you need it I will record the exact messages, I just keep forgetting to do that. > > -- > Joseph Meehan > > Dia 's Muire duit

04-02-2008

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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	Quote:
	> "Windows Live" includes a whole suite of programs. I assume you meant > Windows Live Mail. Open Windows Live Mail, and without doing anything > in it, close it. This time when you answer yes to that prompt, it should > be successful.

Thanks, I will give it a try.

Also sorry about not noting it was Live Mail. I should know better.

Quote:

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> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:u2g97BOlIHA.5260@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> When closing Windows Live, it usually if not always ask if I want to >> reclaim spaced. A no answer is find, but if I select yes, it takes a few >> seconds and then decides that another process is locking the file. >> >> What gives? >> >> Yea, if you need it I will record the exact messages, I just keep >> forgetting to do that. >> >> -- >> Joseph Meehan >> >> Dia 's Muire duit

>
>

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

04-03-2008

This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close
properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous suggestions and
it just will not close. And you can't force a close because the compacting
ability closes too.
--
©LarryEº

"Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#8VhYZQlIHA.3780@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> "Windows Live" includes a whole suite of programs. I assume you meant >> Windows Live Mail. Open Windows Live Mail, and without doing anything >> in it, close it. This time when you answer yes to that prompt, it should >> be successful.

>
>
> Thanks, I will give it a try.
>
> Also sorry about not noting it was Live Mail. I should know better.
>
>

Quote:

>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:u2g97BOlIHA.5260@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> When closing Windows Live, it usually if not always ask if I want to >>> reclaim spaced. A no answer is find, but if I select yes, it takes a >>> few seconds and then decides that another process is locking the file. >>> >>> What gives? >>> >>> Yea, if you need it I will record the exact messages, I just keep >>> forgetting to do that. >>> >>> -- >>> Joseph Meehan >>> >>> Dia 's Muire duit

>>
>>

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>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia 's Muire duit
>
>
>

04-03-2008

"©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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	Quote:
	> This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous > suggestions and it just will not close.

It seems to be affected most by moving the mouse pointer.
If I reply to the buttons by the keyboard it doesn't lock up as often.

	Quote:
	> And you can't force a close because the compacting ability closes too.

Explain? You may have to use Task Manager to End task
wlmail.exe Only do this if the Processes line for that task
is clearly not doing I/O. E.g. activate all statistics for the
Processes tab and see that the only activity is only a slow
periodic I/O Other and I/O Other bytes increment by 16
exactly.

HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

04-03-2008

When I close WLM and it is time to compact, WLM does not close and when I
click on the OK to compact the database, I get the message that the folder
is in use by Windows Live Mail or some other program. Then when I click OK
on that error message, WLM closes, but not before and I waited for over 5
minutes for WLM to close on it's own.
--
©LarryEº

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e8G2HPalIHA.3512@xxxxxx

Quote:

> "©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:5AAF6F24-6AC7-430D-8A9D-6A33D0D09D00@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close >> properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous suggestions >> and it just will not close.

>
>
> It seems to be affected most by moving the mouse pointer.
> If I reply to the buttons by the keyboard it doesn't lock up as often.
>
>

	Quote:
	>> And you can't force a close because the compacting ability closes too.

>
>
> Explain? You may have to use Task Manager to End task
> wlmail.exe Only do this if the Processes line for that task
> is clearly not doing I/O. E.g. activate all statistics for the
> Processes tab and see that the only activity is only a slow
> periodic I/O Other and I/O Other bytes increment by 16
> exactly.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>

04-03-2008

There is a known shutdown bug in the current version of WLM.
The workaround is to enable the option "Upload Larger Images to
the Web When Sending a Photo E-mail".

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

"©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B60F68DE-A3D1-47F0-A5B5-73F637478897@xxxxxx

Quote:

> When I close WLM and it is time to compact, WLM does not close and when I click on the OK to compact the database, I get the
> message that the folder is in use by Windows Live Mail or some other program. Then when I click OK on that error message, WLM
> closes, but not before and I waited for over 5 minutes for WLM to close on it's own.
> --
> ©LarryEº
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e8G2HPalIHA.3512@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> "©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:5AAF6F24-6AC7-430D-8A9D-6A33D0D09D00@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous >>> suggestions and it just will not close.

>>
>>
>> It seems to be affected most by moving the mouse pointer.
>> If I reply to the buttons by the keyboard it doesn't lock up as often.
>>
>>

	Quote:
	>>> And you can't force a close because the compacting ability closes too.

>>
>>
>> Explain? You may have to use Task Manager to End task
>> wlmail.exe Only do this if the Processes line for that task
>> is clearly not doing I/O. E.g. activate all statistics for the
>> Processes tab and see that the only activity is only a slow
>> periodic I/O Other and I/O Other bytes increment by 16
>> exactly.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Robert Aldwinckle
>> ---
>>

04-03-2008

Been there, done that. I've had that checked all along but still no go. As
long as it doesn't ask to compact the data base, it closes properly every
single time, but as soon as it is time to compact, it messes up. I used to
be able to open WLM and close it without doing anything and it would work
fine, but don't know what happened to it lately.
--
©LarryEº

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e#Fos7blIHA.5368@xxxxxx

Quote:

> There is a known shutdown bug in the current version of WLM.
> The workaround is to enable the option "Upload Larger Images to
> the Web When Sending a Photo E-mail".
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B60F68DE-A3D1-47F0-A5B5-73F637478897@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> When I close WLM and it is time to compact, WLM does not close and when I
>> click on the OK to compact the database, I get the message that the
>> folder is in use by Windows Live Mail or some other program. Then when I
>> click OK on that error message, WLM closes, but not before and I waited
>> for over 5 minutes for WLM to close on it's own.
>> --
>> ©LarryEº
>>
>> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e8G2HPalIHA.3512@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> "©LarryEº" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:5AAF6F24-6AC7-430D-8A9D-6A33D0D09D00@xxxxxx >>>> This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close >>>> properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous suggestions >>>> and it just will not close. >>> >>> >>> It seems to be affected most by moving the mouse pointer. >>> If I reply to the buttons by the keyboard it doesn't lock up as often. >>> >>> >>>> And you can't force a close because the compacting ability closes too. >>> >>> >>> Explain? You may have to use Task Manager to End task >>> wlmail.exe Only do this if the Processes line for that task >>> is clearly not doing I/O. E.g. activate all statistics for the >>> Processes tab and see that the only activity is only a slow >>> periodic I/O Other and I/O Other bytes increment by 16 >>> exactly. >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Robert Aldwinckle >>> --- >>>

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>

04-03-2008

	Quote:
	> When I close WLM and it is time to compact,

My problem symptom starts right there at the prompt.
If I hover the mouse pointer, especially over the No button,
the prompt goes into an hourglass, never to return.
That's when one instance of the TM I/O Other Bytes 16
symptom state starts. However, I have seen it happening
independently of doing a close too. So for me at least
that loop is the more general problem which causes
the described symptom and other "hangs" as well.

	Quote:
	> WLM does not close

Not immediately? It may be doing some other cleanup
before reaching the prompt state. You could use TM
to check what it is doing then too.

	Quote:
	> and when I click on the OK to compact the database, I get the message that the folder is in use by Windows Live Mail or some other > program.

I have never seen that symptom. If it occurs frequently
I would use ProcMon to get more details about what
is in use and by what. Alternativey if you identify only
the object which is in contention you could get a better idea
of the holders of the object by using Process Explorer
and doing a Ctrl-F Find for its handles. You may find
via ProcMon also that there are some hidden diagnostics
being saved somewhere.

HTH

Robert
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Quote:

> Then when I click OK on that error message, WLM closes, but not before and I waited for over 5 minutes for WLM to close on it's
> own.
> --
> LarryE
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e8G2HPalIHA.3512@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> "LarryE" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:5AAF6F24-6AC7-430D-8A9D-6A33D0D09D00@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous >>> suggestions and it just will not close.

>>
>>
>> It seems to be affected most by moving the mouse pointer.
>> If I reply to the buttons by the keyboard it doesn't lock up as often.
>>
>>

	Quote:
	>>> And you can't force a close because the compacting ability closes too.

>>
>>
>> Explain? You may have to use Task Manager to End task
>> wlmail.exe Only do this if the Processes line for that task
>> is clearly not doing I/O. E.g. activate all statistics for the
>> Processes tab and see that the only activity is only a slow
>> periodic I/O Other and I/O Other bytes increment by 16
>> exactly.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Robert Aldwinckle
>> ---
>>

04-04-2008

That seems to be working for me.

Thanks.

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e8G2HPalIHA.3512@xxxxxx

Quote:

	Quote:
	>> This is becoming a bigger problem for me lately. It will not close >> properly, no matter what I do. I've followed all previous suggestions >> and it just will not close.

>
>
> It seems to be affected

04-02-2008	#1 (permalink)
Joseph Meehan Guest	"Reclaim space on closing" Error When closing Windows Live, it usually if not always ask if I want to reclaim spaced. A no answer is find, but if I select yes, it takes a few seconds and then decides that another process is locking the file. What gives? Yea, if you need it I will record the exact messages, I just keep forgetting to do that. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit