spam filter

Hi does anyone know which company MS is using for the spam filter in WLM?

I'm in the process of comparing it to the one my ISP has just switched to
(Postini)

So far, the WLM filter actually identifies more spam than Postini, but
Postini seems to spot messages that spoof my own email address, whereas WLM
never does. BUT WLM has given a false positive or two, doing so a bit too
often to just let it delete spam automatically.

When i used to use Outlook Express, I paid for the use of Cloudmark - and
that was wonderful, never had false positives in a lengthy test, and so
could just let it delete. But it doesn't work with WLM.

Thanks

You may have to remove your name and email address from the
list of contacts, because WLM tends to trust mail from contacts.
You can change that option here: Tools, Safety Options, Safe Senders.

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"JIP" <fred@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u1qR12$lIHA.2328@xxxxxx

Their own SmartScreen, the same as in Outlook.
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safe...default.mspx#2
[You may find that the bookmark ("#2") doesn't work in that link; WLMail
doesn't like "#" in URLs. Just scroll down to Microsoft SmartScreen.]
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Noel

"JIP" <fred@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EAF2E2AA-A675-4707-9235-0411901B1060@xxxxxx Hmmmm - just looked at that link - it suggests that Smartscreen may be
deleting emails that it is sure is spam - but doesn't offer any way for me
to vet this. Am I right?

"JIP" <fred@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:estUo5CmIHA.4196@xxxxxx
Depends...on the accounts in use in WLM...
i.e...
Only if surpassing an SCL threshold **and** only for hotmail accounts which are filtered prior to WLM junk mail filter having a go
at them locally.

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...winston
MS-MVP Windows Live Mail

"JIP" <fred@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:estUo5CmIHA.4196@xxxxxx I don't know about the last bit, but the answer to the first is no - the
junk filter in WLMail doesn't delete anything, unless you have "Permanently
delete suspected junk mail..." selected at Tools > Safety options > Options.
Suspected junk gets moved to a Junk e-mail folder.
Hotmail-type accounts also have junk filtering, as do many others, and these
will all need configuring at the other end to avoid loss of legitimate
messages.
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Noel

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4427DAEE-82F2-4C08-9E36-3F32924A6463@xxxxxx Like "JIP", I got the impression that part of SmartScreen runs at the server
level and deletes known spam before sending remaining mail on to the
user's mailbox on the server. This would happen before any user-selected
spam rules operate.
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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u8xSGtNmIHA.5660@xxxxxx Well that is exactly what it says it does. Which I'm not really happy about.

I'd like to be able to watch for a while to make sure no false positives are
creeping through.

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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