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| | Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express I just had WLM crash - sent crash report to MS. But then I got a Dialogue Box with "Outlook Express" in title bar, an exclamation mark on a yellow triangle; some text -- "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact messages, this may take a while"; and OK and Cancel buttons - I pressed cancel. I do not nor have I ever run Outlook "anything" on this system, in fact the only mail client that has ever run on this compter following a full system rebuild is Live Mail. WLM crashed when I tried to open a JPG attachment from a trusted source, restarted WLM and all OK, I think I;m going to have to get another gig of memory this Live stuff is pretty sluggish. |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info I now get the dialogue box every time I start WLM - so far I've answer No - concerned it will Google my mail. |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info You must have XP. Outlook Express is still on your computer. Check if msimn.exe is a running process. Check before you try starting WLM. Check the WLM shortcut. Is it "C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" ? -- Ronald Sommer "Urbane Tiger" <urbane.tiger@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9q5d0415r71b8d06jlodgneetjas6f7hm2@xxxxxx Quote: > I now get the dialogue box every time I start WLM - so far I've answer > No - concerned it will Google my mail. |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as WLM On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:16:56 +1000, Urbane Tiger <urbane.tiger@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >I just had WLM crash - sent crash report to MS. > >But then I got a Dialogue Box with "Outlook Express" in title bar, an >exclamation mark on a yellow triangle; some text -- "To free up disk >space, Outlook Express can compact messages, this may take a while"; >and OK and Cancel buttons - I pressed cancel. > >I do not nor have I ever run Outlook "anything" on this system, in >fact the only mail client that has ever run on this compter following >a full system rebuild is Live Mail. > >WLM crashed when I tried to open a JPG attachment from a trusted >source, restarted WLM and all OK, I think I;m going to have to get >another gig of memory this Live stuff is pretty sluggish. Header Wrong |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:50:25 -0500, "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >You must have XP. >Outlook Express is still on your computer. Check if msimn.exe is a running >process. >Check before you try starting WLM. >Check the WLM shortcut. Is it >"C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" ? yep its XP, WLM shortcut is OK But Task Manager has been disabled by the administrator, I asked why and he denied doing it, I can't argue with him 'cos him is I? So I loaded up SysInt's Process Explorer - couldn't see msimn.exe. Also selected option to replace Task Mangler with Process Explorer, strangely it will come up with a Ctrl/Alt/Del but the task bar context menu still has Task Manager greyed out. This feels very virusy to me -- bloody cat -- I'm off to the xp group. |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info I worked on a computer this week that had Task Manager grayed out. Several anti-spam, registry checking programs had installed themselves. -- Ronald Sommer "Urbane Tiger" <urbane.tiger@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ajcd04lg605dr92771k7d9gressei6948g@xxxxxx Quote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:50:25 -0500, "Ron Sommer" > <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>You must have XP. >>Outlook Express is still on your computer. Check if msimn.exe is a >>running >>process. >>Check before you try starting WLM. >>Check the WLM shortcut. Is it >>"C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe" ? > > yep its XP, WLM shortcut is OK > > But Task Manager has been disabled by the administrator, I asked why > and he denied doing it, I can't argue with him 'cos him is I? > > So I loaded up SysInt's Process Explorer - couldn't see msimn.exe. > > Also selected option to replace Task Mangler with Process Explorer, > strangely it will come up with a Ctrl/Alt/Del but the task bar context > menu still has Task Manager greyed out. > > This feels very virusy to me -- bloody cat -- I'm off to the xp > group. > |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:34:44 -0500, Ron Sommer wrote: Quote: > I worked on a computer this week that had Task Manager grayed out. > Several anti-spam, registry checking programs had installed themselves. including malware, must be consciously installed by the user. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:164taci48zu3i.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:34:44 -0500, Ron Sommer wrote: > Quote: >> I worked on a computer this week that had Task Manager grayed out. >> Several anti-spam, registry checking programs had installed themselves. > Malware can "install itself", if the user is lax. Otherwise, programs, > including malware, must be consciously installed by the user. by going to a web page: http://windowssecrets.com/comp/080417/#story1 -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:56:41 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:164taci48zu3i.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: >> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:34:44 -0500, Ron Sommer wrote: >> Quote: >>> I worked on a computer this week that had Task Manager grayed out. >>> Several anti-spam, registry checking programs had installed themselves. >> Malware can "install itself", if the user is lax. Otherwise, programs, >> including malware, must be consciously installed by the user. >There a new breed of malware that can install itself through Flash, simply >by going to a web page: >http://windowssecrets.com/comp/080417/#story1 parasite itself -- I'm a bit paranoid at the moment My guess is that's what it was - I use Flashblock so flash items are not auto displayed in FF. The other day I struck a site, purportedly related to OOo, that had not much more than a a flash video, I clicked on Flashblocks play and the video didn't do any thing sensible so I closed the window. The site came high up, but below sponsored links, on an MS Live search for "openoffice ??????" but I can't remember what the ????? was. Could have been Writer's Tools as I was trying to get it working about then, which it now is. At the time I wondered whether MS might have "planted" the seemingly useless site in the search, but I actually don't believe they would. I'd set my default to to Live search because Google decided I was a shopaholic, whereas I am in fact a shopaphobic. Someone else has posted a thread in m.p.w.xpbasics with Task Manager problem. My IE is behaving badly, cant close tabs, and another program "Belarc Adviser" is causing the spurious Outlook Express dialogue box - I am now 99.5% certain it's malware. I wont post anymore here as it is clearly not a WLM issue. |
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| | Re: Is Outlook Express masquerading as Outlook Express - additional info Yes, the link I posted was merely a place to get more information about the new malware threat. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) "Urbane Tiger" <urbane.tiger@xxxxxx> wrote in message news m3h04pcsd0arsphsvto0kbtumtmksen6i@xxxxxxQuote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:56:41 -0700, "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:164taci48zu3i.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: >>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:34:44 -0500, Ron Sommer wrote: >>> >>>> I worked on a computer this week that had Task Manager grayed out. >>>> Several anti-spam, registry checking programs had installed themselves. >>> >>> Malware can "install itself", if the user is lax. Otherwise, programs, >>> including malware, must be consciously installed by the user. >>There a new breed of malware that can install itself through Flash, simply >>by going to a web page: >>http://windowssecrets.com/comp/080417/#story1 > Gary, can you conform that the link you posted is the place to get info on the parasite and not the place to get the > parasite itself -- I'm a bit paranoid at the moment > > My guess is that's what it was - I use Flashblock so flash items are not auto displayed in FF. > > The other day I struck a site, purportedly related to OOo, that had not much more than a a flash video, I clicked on > Flashblocks play and the video didn't do any thing sensible so I closed the window. > > The site came high up, but below sponsored links, on an MS Live search for "openoffice ??????" but I can't remember what > the ????? was. Could have been Writer's Tools as I was trying to get it working about then, which it now is. At the > time I wondered whether MS might have "planted" the seemingly useless site in the search, but I actually don't believe > they would. I'd set my default to to Live search because Google decided I was a shopaholic, whereas I am in fact a > shopaphobic. > > Someone else has posted a thread in m.p.w.xpbasics with Task Manager problem. > > My IE is behaving badly, cant close tabs, and another program "Belarc Adviser" is causing the spurious Outlook Express > dialogue box - I am now 99.5% certain it's malware. > > I wont post anymore here as it is clearly not a WLM issue. |
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