Vista - Re: Any way to backup message rules.

04-20-2008

Noel

I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application specific
in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are things that other
program particular the operation system components (e.g. the info relating to
uninstall so in there), At least that's how interpret MS's guidance to
developers.

I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read and
appreciated.

I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a seriously
infect XP system

Urbane.Tiger

"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." -
Winston Churchill

-------- Original Message --------

Quote:

> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some
> settings (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are
> stored in the registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have
> thought it would be possible to write all settings to an .ini file
> in the Store folder, which could then be written to the registry on
> start-up. It's also a pain after a reinstall having to go through
> all the Options again. Then, a simple backup of that folder would
> archive *everything* - accounts, settings, rules and messages.
>
> Noel
>
> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > Thanks Noel.
> >
> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option
> > in the actual software for that, rather than having to go in to
> > the registry.
> >
> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx

Quote:

> >> Spicester wrote...
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's
> >>> frustrating if
> >>> you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all your message
> >>> rules again,
> >>> especially when you can import your previous account settings
> >>> and messages.
> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous
> >>> message
> >>> rules.
> >>>
> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then
> >> File
> >>> Export.
> >> --
> >> Noel

> >

--

04-21-2008

How did you unearth that ancient post (dated 27 September 2007)? You're
lucky that the advice still holds, since we've gone through a new build and
RTM since then. Thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with the
disinfection.
--
Noel

"Urbane.Tiger" <phildan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:IpGdnWmps-X7KZbVnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Noel
>
> I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application
> specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are
> things that other program particular the operation system components (e.g.
> the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how interpret
> MS's guidance to developers.
>
> I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read
> and appreciated.
>
> I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a seriously
> infect XP system
>

Quote:

> -------- Original Message --------

Quote:

>> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some settings
>> (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are stored in the
>> registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have thought it would be
>> possible to write all settings to an .ini file in the Store folder, which
>> could then be written to the registry on start-up. It's also a pain after
>> a reinstall having to go through all the Options again. Then, a simple
>> backup of that folder would archive *everything* - accounts, settings,
>> rules and messages.

Quote:

>> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> > Thanks Noel.
>> >
>> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option in the
>> > actual software for that, rather than having to go in to the registry.
>> >
>> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx
>> >> Spicester wrote...
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's
>> >>> frustrating if you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all
>> >>> your message rules again, especially when you can import your
>> >>> previous account settings and messages.
>> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous
>> >>> message rules.
>> >>>
>> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then File
>> >> >Export.

05-10-2008

I never did answer your question did I

Firstly I don't live in earth time, yesterday, today and tomorrow are to me
all one of the same. I unearthed it by using a real NNTP client with a
functioning search feature-

Still working on my WLM/WDS issues - I think I may I have just found the
problem - overload, on me and the search engines - I'd ideally like
everything indexed every which way - I have heaps of disk capacity.

I want to install the penultimate item in what I hope be will prevent any
further infections. So I set all my scanners running this morning - virus
is still going at about 250K objects - I think it will get close to 300K,
Defender which looks inside compressed objects is still going at at 3.6M
objects I think it will get close to 6M objects.

My indexer filters are set up to look everywhere including at the content
objects of compressed objects - ie I'm probably expecting NTFS indexer and
WDS indexer to process several million objects - perhaps that's too much.
What do you reckon - - big ask, hence the dummy spits.

Oh what's an RTM ?

cheers

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OKxqp84oIHA.4912@xxxxxx

Quote:

> How did you unearth that ancient post (dated 27 September 2007)? You're
> lucky that the advice still holds, since we've gone through a new build
> and RTM since then. Thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with
> the disinfection.
> --
> Noel
>
> "Urbane.Tiger" <phildan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:IpGdnWmps-X7KZbVnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Noel
>>
>> I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application
>> specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are
>> things that other program particular the operation system components
>> (e.g. the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how
>> interpret MS's guidance to developers.
>>
>> I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read
>> and appreciated.
>>
>> I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a
>> seriously infect XP system
>>

>

Quote:

>> -------- Original Message --------

Quote:

>>> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some settings
>>> (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are stored in
>>> the registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have thought it would
>>> be possible to write all settings to an .ini file in the Store folder,
>>> which could then be written to the registry on start-up. It's also a
>>> pain after a reinstall having to go through all the Options again. Then,
>>> a simple backup of that folder would archive *everything* - accounts,
>>> settings, rules and messages.

>

Quote:

>>> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx
>>> > Thanks Noel.
>>> >
>>> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option in
>>> > the actual software for that, rather than having to go in to the
>>> > registry.
>>> >
>>> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx
>>> >> Spicester wrote...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's
>>> >>> frustrating if you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all
>>> >>> your message rules again, especially when you can import your
>>> >>> previous account settings and messages.
>>> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous
>>> >>> message rules.
>>> >>>
>>> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then File
>>> >> >Export.

>
>
>
>

05-10-2008

RTM = Release To Manufacturing, which is a milestone term very familiar
to beta testers. It means the software has finished beta testing.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP

"Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ebednXExd90EqLjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I never did answer your question did I
>
> Firstly I don't live in earth time, yesterday, today and tomorrow are to
> me all one of the same. I unearthed it by using a real NNTP client with a
> functioning search feature-

>
> Still working on my WLM/WDS issues - I think I may I have just found the
> problem - overload, on me and the search engines - I'd ideally like
> everything indexed every which way - I have heaps of disk capacity.
>
> I want to install the penultimate item in what I hope be will prevent any
> further infections. So I set all my scanners running this morning - virus
> is still going at about 250K objects - I think it will get close to 300K,
> Defender which looks inside compressed objects is still going at at 3.6M
> objects I think it will get close to 6M objects.
>
> My indexer filters are set up to look everywhere including at the content
> objects of compressed objects - ie I'm probably expecting NTFS indexer and
> WDS indexer to process several million objects - perhaps that's too much.
> What do you reckon - - big ask, hence the dummy spits.
>
> Oh what's an RTM ?
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OKxqp84oIHA.4912@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> How did you unearth that ancient post (dated 27 September 2007)? You're
>> lucky that the advice still holds, since we've gone through a new build
>> and RTM since then. Thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with
>> the disinfection.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "Urbane.Tiger" <phildan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:IpGdnWmps-X7KZbVnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> Noel
>>>
>>> I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application
>>> specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are
>>> things that other program particular the operation system components
>>> (e.g. the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how
>>> interpret MS's guidance to developers.
>>>
>>> I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read
>>> and appreciated.
>>>
>>> I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a
>>> seriously infect XP system
>>>

>>

Quote:

>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some settings
>>>> (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are stored in
>>>> the registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have thought it
>>>> would be possible to write all settings to an .ini file in the Store
>>>> folder, which could then be written to the registry on start-up. It's
>>>> also a pain after a reinstall having to go through all the Options
>>>> again. Then, a simple backup of that folder would archive
>>>> *everything* - accounts, settings, rules and messages.

>>

Quote:

>>>> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx
>>>> > Thanks Noel.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option in
>>>> > the actual software for that, rather than having to go in to the
>>>> > registry.
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx
>>>> >> Spicester wrote...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's
>>>> >>> frustrating if you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all
>>>> >>> your message rules again, especially when you can import your
>>>> >>> previous account settings and messages.
>>>> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous
>>>> >>> message rules.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then File
>>>> >> >Export.

>>
>>
>>
>>

04-20-2008	#1 (permalink)
Urbane.Tiger n/a posts	Re: Any way to backup message rules. Noel I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are things that other program particular the operation system components (e.g. the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how interpret MS's guidance to developers. I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read and appreciated. I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a seriously infect XP system Urbane.Tiger "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." - Winston Churchill -------- Original Message -------- Quote: > You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some > settings (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are > stored in the registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have > thought it would be possible to write all settings to an .ini file > in the Store folder, which could then be written to the registry on > start-up. It's also a pain after a reinstall having to go through > all the Options again. Then, a simple backup of that folder would > archive everything - accounts, settings, rules and messages. > > Noel > > "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx Quote: > > Thanks Noel. > > > > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option > > in the actual software for that, rather than having to go in to > > the registry. > > > > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx Quote: > >> Spicester wrote... > >>> > >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's > >>> frustrating if > >>> you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all your message > >>> rules again, > >>> especially when you can import your previous account settings > >>> and messages. > >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous > >>> message > >>> rules. > >>> > >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then > >> File > >>> Export. > >> -- > >> Noel > > --
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04-21-2008	#2 (permalink)
Ildhund n/a posts	Re: Any way to backup message rules. How did you unearth that ancient post (dated 27 September 2007)? You're lucky that the advice still holds, since we've gone through a new build and RTM since then. Thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with the disinfection. -- Noel "Urbane.Tiger" <phildan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:IpGdnWmps-X7KZbVnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > Noel > > I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application > specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are > things that other program particular the operation system components (e.g. > the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how interpret > MS's guidance to developers. > > I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read > and appreciated. > > I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a seriously > infect XP system > Quote: > -------- Original Message -------- Quote: >> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some settings >> (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are stored in the >> registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have thought it would be >> possible to write all settings to an .ini file in the Store folder, which >> could then be written to the registry on start-up. It's also a pain after >> a reinstall having to go through all the Options again. Then, a simple >> backup of that folder would archive everything - accounts, settings, >> rules and messages. Quote: Quote: >> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Thanks Noel. >> > >> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option in the >> > actual software for that, rather than having to go in to the registry. >> > >> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx >> >> Spicester wrote... >> >>> >> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's >> >>> frustrating if you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all >> >>> your message rules again, especially when you can import your >> >>> previous account settings and messages. >> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous >> >>> message rules. >> >>> >> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then File >> >> >Export.
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05-10-2008	#3 (permalink)
Urbane.Tiger n/a posts	Re: Any way to backup message rules. I never did answer your question did I Firstly I don't live in earth time, yesterday, today and tomorrow are to me all one of the same. I unearthed it by using a real NNTP client with a functioning search feature- Still working on my WLM/WDS issues - I think I may I have just found the problem - overload, on me and the search engines - I'd ideally like everything indexed every which way - I have heaps of disk capacity. I want to install the penultimate item in what I hope be will prevent any further infections. So I set all my scanners running this morning - virus is still going at about 250K objects - I think it will get close to 300K, Defender which looks inside compressed objects is still going at at 3.6M objects I think it will get close to 6M objects. My indexer filters are set up to look everywhere including at the content objects of compressed objects - ie I'm probably expecting NTFS indexer and WDS indexer to process several million objects - perhaps that's too much. What do you reckon - - big ask, hence the dummy spits. Oh what's an RTM ? cheers "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OKxqp84oIHA.4912@xxxxxx Quote: > How did you unearth that ancient post (dated 27 September 2007)? You're > lucky that the advice still holds, since we've gone through a new build > and RTM since then. Thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with > the disinfection. > -- > Noel > > "Urbane.Tiger" <phildan@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:IpGdnWmps-X7KZbVnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >> Noel >> >> I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application >> specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are >> things that other program particular the operation system components >> (e.g. the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how >> interpret MS's guidance to developers. >> >> I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read >> and appreciated. >> >> I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a >> seriously infect XP system >> > Quote: >> -------- Original Message -------- Quote: >>> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some settings >>> (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are stored in >>> the registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have thought it would >>> be possible to write all settings to an .ini file in the Store folder, >>> which could then be written to the registry on start-up. It's also a >>> pain after a reinstall having to go through all the Options again. Then, >>> a simple backup of that folder would archive everything - accounts, >>> settings, rules and messages. > Quote: Quote: >>> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx >>> > Thanks Noel. >>> > >>> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option in >>> > the actual software for that, rather than having to go in to the >>> > registry. >>> > >>> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx >>> >> Spicester wrote... >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's >>> >>> frustrating if you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all >>> >>> your message rules again, especially when you can import your >>> >>> previous account settings and messages. >>> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous >>> >>> message rules. >>> >>> >>> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then File >>> >> >Export. > > > >
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05-10-2008	#4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen n/a posts	Re: Any way to backup message rules. RTM = Release To Manufacturing, which is a milestone term very familiar to beta testers. It means the software has finished beta testing. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP "Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ebednXExd90EqLjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >I never did answer your question did I > > Firstly I don't live in earth time, yesterday, today and tomorrow are to > me all one of the same. I unearthed it by using a real NNTP client with a > functioning search feature- > > Still working on my WLM/WDS issues - I think I may I have just found the > problem - overload, on me and the search engines - I'd ideally like > everything indexed every which way - I have heaps of disk capacity. > > I want to install the penultimate item in what I hope be will prevent any > further infections. So I set all my scanners running this morning - virus > is still going at about 250K objects - I think it will get close to 300K, > Defender which looks inside compressed objects is still going at at 3.6M > objects I think it will get close to 6M objects. > > My indexer filters are set up to look everywhere including at the content > objects of compressed objects - ie I'm probably expecting NTFS indexer and > WDS indexer to process several million objects - perhaps that's too much. > What do you reckon - - big ask, hence the dummy spits. > > Oh what's an RTM ? > > cheers > > > > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:OKxqp84oIHA.4912@xxxxxx Quote: >> How did you unearth that ancient post (dated 27 September 2007)? You're >> lucky that the advice still holds, since we've gone through a new build >> and RTM since then. Thanks for the vote of confidence, and good luck with >> the disinfection. >> -- >> Noel >> >> "Urbane.Tiger" <phildan@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:IpGdnWmps-X7KZbVnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Noel >>> >>> I am a programmer; there's no reason to store stuff that's application >>> specific in the registry, the only stuff that needs to go in to it are >>> things that other program particular the operation system components >>> (e.g. the info relating to uninstall so in there), At least that's how >>> interpret MS's guidance to developers. >>> >>> I hope it gives you satisfaction to know your posts are still being read >>> and appreciated. >>> >>> I'll be using the process in this thread as part of recovering a >>> seriously infect XP system >>> >> Quote: >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> You're welcome. I can't see the difference, either, why some settings >>>> (eg. accounts) are kept in the file system while others are stored in >>>> the registry, but then, I'm no programmer. But I'd have thought it >>>> would be possible to write all settings to an .ini file in the Store >>>> folder, which could then be written to the registry on start-up. It's >>>> also a pain after a reinstall having to go through all the Options >>>> again. Then, a simple backup of that folder would archive >>>> everything - accounts, settings, rules and messages. >> Quote: >>>> "Spicester" <spicester@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:e8TUI9RAIHA.4444@xxxxxx >>>> > Thanks Noel. >>>> > >>>> > I'll give that a try. You think they could make an easier option in >>>> > the actual software for that, rather than having to go in to the >>>> > registry. >>>> > >>>> > "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> > news:eTluA4RAIHA.4496@xxxxxx >>>> >> Spicester wrote... >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to backup your message rules? It's >>>> >>> frustrating if you do a clean install of WLM to have to create all >>>> >>> your message rules again, especially when you can import your >>>> >>> previous account settings and messages. >>>> >>> Surely there must be an easy way of also importing your previous >>>> >>> message rules. >>>> >>> >>>> >> regedit > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Rules, then File >>>> >> >Export. >> >> >> >>
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