Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion, microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
Previous groups removed.

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...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"Windows Live Mail Technologies Support" <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx
Hello All,

I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that have
started on this thread.

Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We are
doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox sizes.
Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen within DAV.
DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to efficiently handle large
accounts.

This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False. Hotmail
customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other clients such
as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage against Hotmail, it
is not the single choice for connection. You will also be able to continue
full access through your browser.

Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to the new
OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is available
through your browser.




--
Scott Hammer
Sr. Supportability Program Manager
Windows Live Mail Technologies
Microsoft Corporation

His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for that
option.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx

> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion, microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
> Previous groups removed.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp windows live mail
>
>
> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support" <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx
> Hello All,
>
> I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that have
> started on this thread.
>
> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We are
> doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox sizes.
> Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen within DAV.
> DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to efficiently handle large
> accounts.
>
> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False. Hotmail
> customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other clients such
> as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage against Hotmail, it
> is not the single choice for connection. You will also be able to continue
> full access through your browser.
>
> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
> utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to the new
> OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is available
> through your browser.
>
>
> --
> Scott Hammer
> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
> Windows Live Mail Technologies
> Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
>

How can use Hotmail with the POP3 protocol?
Thanks,
Steffo

Gary VanderMolen wrote:

> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
> mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for
> that option.
>
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx

>> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,
>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Previous groups removed.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>
>>
>> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
>> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx> wrote
>> in message
>> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx Hello All,
>>
>> I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that
>> have started on this thread.
>>
>> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We
>> are doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox
>> sizes. Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen
>> within DAV. DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to
>> efficiently
>> handle large accounts.
>>
>> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False.
>> Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other
>> clients such as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage
>> against
>> Hotmail, it is not the single choice for connection. You will also be
>> able to
>> continue full access through your browser.
>>
>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
>> utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to
>> the new OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is
>> available through your browser.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott Hammer
>> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
>> Windows Live Mail Technologies
>> Microsoft Corporation

You have to subscribe to Hotmail Plus:
http://get.live.com/en-us/mailplus/features

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23l8pFfLpIHA.4736@xxxxxx

> How can use Hotmail with the POP3 protocol?
> Thanks,
> Steffo
>
> Gary VanderMolen wrote:

>> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
>> mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for
>> that option.
>>
>>
>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx

>>> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,
>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Previous groups removed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ...winston
>>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>>
>>>
>>> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
>>> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx> wrote
>>> in message
>>> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx Hello All,
>>>
>>> I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that
>>> have started on this thread.
>>>
>>> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We
>>> are doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox
>>> sizes. Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen
>>> within DAV. DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to efficiently
>>> handle large accounts.
>>>
>>> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False. Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as
>>> mentioned below, other
>>> clients such as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage against
>>> Hotmail, it is not the single choice for connection. You will also be able to
>>> continue full access through your browser.
>>>
>>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
>>> utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to
>>> the new OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is
>>> available through your browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott Hammer
>>> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
>>> Windows Live Mail Technologies
>>> Microsoft Corporation

>
>

Gary,
Self corrected shortly thereafter.
The content is included below

<qp>
To correct myself...
Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other
clients such as Thunderbird.

I meant Hotmail PLUS customers are able to utilize POP3 as they currently
do...

--
Scott Hammer
Sr. Support Program Manager
Windows Live Mail Technologies
Microsoft Corporation
"Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
<WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport

<qp>


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uKMBp7KpIHA.4760@xxxxxx

> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
> mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for that

To add to Gary's response..
How to Configure Pop3/Smtp for Hotmail Plus and Legacy Pop3 accounts
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!171.entry


--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#l8pFfLpIHA.4736@xxxxxx

> How can use Hotmail with the POP3 protocol?
> Thanks,
> Steffo
>
> Gary VanderMolen wrote:

>> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
>> mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for
>> that option.
>>
>>
>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx

>>> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,
>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Previous groups removed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ...winston
>>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>>
>>>
>>> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
>>> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx> wrote
>>> in message
>>> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx Hello All,
>>>
>>> I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that
>>> have started on this thread.
>>>
>>> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We
>>> are doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox
>>> sizes. Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen
>>> within DAV. DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to efficiently
>>> handle large accounts.
>>>
>>> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False. Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned
>>> below, other
>>> clients such as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage against
>>> Hotmail, it is not the single choice for connection. You will also be able to
>>> continue full access through your browser.
>>>
>>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
>>> utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to
>>> the new OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is
>>> available through your browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott Hammer
>>> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
>>> Windows Live Mail Technologies
>>> Microsoft Corporation

>
>

Winston,

I'm a Hotmail Plus subscriber.
I followed the instructions but I can only receive and not send: what can I
try to do to fix that?

Thank you.

Steff

....winston wrote:

> To add to Gary's response..
> How to Configure Pop3/Smtp for Hotmail Plus and Legacy Pop3 accounts
> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!171.entry
>
>
>
> "Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#l8pFfLpIHA.4736@xxxxxx

>> How can use Hotmail with the POP3 protocol?
>> Thanks,
>> Steffo
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen wrote:

>>> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should
>>> have mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is
>>> necessary for that option.
>>>
>>>
>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx
>>>> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Previous groups removed.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ...winston
>>>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
>>>> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx>
>>>> wrote in message
>>>> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx Hello
>>>> All, I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that
>>>> have started on this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We
>>>> are doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger
>>>> mailbox sizes. Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization
>>>> issues
>>>> happen within DAV. DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to
>>>> efficiently handle large accounts.
>>>>
>>>> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail:
>>>> False. Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned
>>>> below, other clients such as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is
>>>> optimized for
>>>> usage against Hotmail, it is not the single choice for connection. You
>>>> will
>>>> also be able to continue full access through your browser.
>>>>
>>>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any
>>>> user utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to
>>>> the new OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live
>>>> Hotmail is available through your browser.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Hammer
>>>> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
>>>> Windows Live Mail Technologies
>>>> Microsoft Corporation

Without any additional information, assuming your settings are correct can't even attempt to answer that.
Care to elaborate ?
O/S, email client, AV software, firewall, email scanning turned on, error message, etc..

--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:egeksZNpIHA.2292@xxxxxx

> Winston,
>
> I'm a Hotmail Plus subscriber.
> I followed the instructions but I can only receive and not send: what can I try to do to fix that?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Steff
>
> ...winston wrote:

>> To add to Gary's response..
>> How to Configure Pop3/Smtp for Hotmail Plus and Legacy Pop3 accounts
>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!171.entry
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#l8pFfLpIHA.4736@xxxxxx

>>> How can use Hotmail with the POP3 protocol?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steffo
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen wrote:
>>>> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should
>>>> have mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is
>>>> necessary for that option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx
>>>>> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Previous groups removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ...winston
>>>>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
>>>>> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx Hello
>>>>> All, I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that
>>>>> have started on this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We
>>>>> are doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger
>>>>> mailbox sizes. Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues
>>>>> happen within DAV. DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to
>>>>> efficiently handle large accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail:
>>>>> False. Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned
>>>>> below, other clients such as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for
>>>>> usage against Hotmail, it is not the single choice for connection. You will
>>>>> also be able to continue full access through your browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any
>>>>> user utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to
>>>>> the new OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live
>>>>> Hotmail is available through your browser.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Scott Hammer
>>>>> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
>>>>> Windows Live Mail Technologies
>>>>> Microsoft Corporation

>
>

Some ISPs block smtp to any but their server too. If you have Bresnan cable
Internet for one it won't work.

Earle

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:unm3xtPpIHA.5096@xxxxxx

> Without any additional information, assuming your settings are correct
> can't even attempt to answer that.
> Care to elaborate ?
> O/S, email client, AV software, firewall, email scanning turned on, error
> message, etc..
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp windows live mail
>
>
> "Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:egeksZNpIHA.2292@xxxxxx

>> Winston,
>>
>> I'm a Hotmail Plus subscriber.
>> I followed the instructions but I can only receive and not send: what can
>> I try to do to fix that?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Steff
>>
>> ...winston wrote:

>>> To add to Gary's response..
>>> How to Configure Pop3/Smtp for Hotmail Plus and Legacy Pop3 accounts
>>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!171.entry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steffo" <steffo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#l8pFfLpIHA.4736@xxxxxx
>>>> How can use Hotmail with the POP3 protocol?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Steffo
>>>>
>>>> Gary VanderMolen wrote:
>>>>> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should
>>>>> have mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is
>>>>> necessary for that option.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eiYKY3KpIHA.2208@xxxxxx
>>>>>> Cross posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,
>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Previous groups removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ...winston
>>>>>> ms-mvp windows live mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
>>>>>> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport@xxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:550DEA86-7C67-48A0-8CFF-87F280A171FB@xxxxxx Hello
>>>>>> All, I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> have started on this thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We
>>>>>> are doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger
>>>>>> mailbox sizes. Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization
>>>>>> issues
>>>>>> happen within DAV. DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> efficiently handle large accounts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail:
>>>>>> False. Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned
>>>>>> below, other clients such as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is
>>>>>> optimized for
>>>>>> usage against Hotmail, it is not the single choice for connection.
>>>>>> You will
>>>>>> also be able to continue full access through your browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any
>>>>>> user utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the new OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live
>>>>>> Hotmail is available through your browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Scott Hammer
>>>>>> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail Technologies
>>>>>> Microsoft Corporation

>>
>>

>

Will the "HTTP" interface in Outlook 2002, 2003 & 2007 also cease to
function as of June 30? What about MSN Explorer?

--
Robert
"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uivshpMpIHA.672@xxxxxx

> Gary,
> Self corrected shortly thereafter.
> The content is included below
>
> <qp>
> To correct myself...
> Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other
> clients such as Thunderbird.
>
> I meant Hotmail PLUS customers are able to utilize POP3 as they currently
> do...
>
> --
> Scott Hammer
> Sr. Support Program Manager
> Windows Live Mail Technologies
> Microsoft Corporation
> "Windows Live Mail Technologies Support"
> <WindowsLiveMailTechnologiesSupport
>
> <qp>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uKMBp7KpIHA.4760@xxxxxx

>> His statement "Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3" should have
>> mentioned that a paid subscription to Hotmail Plus is necessary for that

>
>
>