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Old 04-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
LoneStar


 
 

Outlook Express vs Live Mail

I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........

In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all my
new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the complete
message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I open
them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads the
entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so, that's
really lame.

Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the complete,
downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.

EW




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Old 04-22-2008   #2 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

OE and WLM are the same in this regard.
By default, both download the complete message.
Both also offer message rules where you can elect not to download
messages exceeding a specified size.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:480e5186$0$47101$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
> couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
>
> In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all my
> new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the complete
> message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I open
> them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads the
> entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so, that's
> really lame.
>
> Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the complete,
> downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
>
> EW

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2008   #3 (permalink)
LoneStar


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

Thanks Gary. Not to belabor the issue, but my OE has NEVER downloaded the
contents of messages. Never. And I have no rules in place -- just checked.
It's only when I double click the message that the contents are downloaded
for that message only. Been doing this for years.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to figure something out, or use web mail. Just
like in my OE, web mail (Hotmail) only shows me messages that are "ready"
for me to click on and view the entire contents.

Thanks.
EW

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ugPI6HMpIHA.4280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> OE and WLM are the same in this regard.
> By default, both download the complete message.
> Both also offer message rules where you can elect not to download
> messages exceeding a specified size.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:480e5186$0$47101$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

> >I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
> > couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
> >
> > In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all
my
Quote:
Quote:

> > new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the
complete
Quote:
Quote:

> > message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I
open
Quote:
Quote:

> > them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads
the
Quote:
Quote:

> > entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so,
that's
Quote:
Quote:

> > really lame.
> >
> > Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the
complete,
Quote:
Quote:

> > downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
> >
> > EW
>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-22-2008   #4 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

Perhaps you meant newsgroup messages? The default there is to
download headers only.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:480e70fb$0$47115$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks Gary. Not to belabor the issue, but my OE has NEVER downloaded the
> contents of messages. Never. And I have no rules in place -- just checked.
> It's only when I double click the message that the contents are downloaded
> for that message only. Been doing this for years.
>
> Oh well, I guess I'll have to figure something out, or use web mail. Just
> like in my OE, web mail (Hotmail) only shows me messages that are "ready"
> for me to click on and view the entire contents.
>
> Thanks.
> EW
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ugPI6HMpIHA.4280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> OE and WLM are the same in this regard.
>> By default, both download the complete message.
>> Both also offer message rules where you can elect not to download
>> messages exceeding a specified size.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:480e5186$0$47101$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> >I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
>> > couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
>> >
>> > In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all
> my
Quote:
Quote:

>> > new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the
> complete
Quote:
Quote:

>> > message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I
> open
Quote:
Quote:

>> > them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads
> the
Quote:
Quote:

>> > entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so,
> that's
Quote:
Quote:

>> > really lame.
>> >
>> > Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the
> complete,
Quote:
Quote:

>> > downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
>> >
>> > EW
>>
>>
>
>

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Old 04-22-2008   #5 (permalink)
mae


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

Glad you asked that as it is same for me.
I only download new headers from Hotmail.
That way I have choice.
No filters, no rules, no spam.
Served as reference for what was stored in Hotmail.
Was a perfect setup.

mae

"LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:480e70fb$0$47115$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
| Thanks Gary. Not to belabor the issue, but my OE has NEVER downloaded the
| contents of messages. Never. And I have no rules in place -- just checked.
| It's only when I double click the message that the contents are downloaded
| for that message only. Been doing this for years.
|
| Oh well, I guess I'll have to figure something out, or use web mail. Just
| like in my OE, web mail (Hotmail) only shows me messages that are "ready"
| for me to click on and view the entire contents.
|
| Thanks.
| EW
|
| "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:ugPI6HMpIHA.4280@xxxxxx
| > OE and WLM are the same in this regard.
| > By default, both download the complete message.
| > Both also offer message rules where you can elect not to download
| > messages exceeding a specified size.
| >
| > --
| > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
| >
| >
| > "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:480e5186$0$47101$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
| > >I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
| > > couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
| > >
| > > In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all
| my
| > > new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the
| complete
| > > message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I
| open
| > > them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads
| the
| > > entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so,
| that's
| > > really lame.
| > >
| > > Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the
| complete,
| > > downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
| > >
| > > EW
| >
| >
|
|

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Old 04-22-2008   #6 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the OP was talking about a standard
POP account. I don't consider a Hotmail HTTP account to fit that criteria.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"mae" <agrannie@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23gnFkdNpIHA.2188@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Glad you asked that as it is same for me.
> I only download new headers from Hotmail.
> That way I have choice.
> No filters, no rules, no spam.
> Served as reference for what was stored in Hotmail.
> Was a perfect setup.
>
> mae
>
> "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:480e70fb$0$47115$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
> | Thanks Gary. Not to belabor the issue, but my OE has NEVER downloaded the
> | contents of messages. Never. And I have no rules in place -- just checked.
> | It's only when I double click the message that the contents are downloaded
> | for that message only. Been doing this for years.
> |
> | Oh well, I guess I'll have to figure something out, or use web mail. Just
> | like in my OE, web mail (Hotmail) only shows me messages that are "ready"
> | for me to click on and view the entire contents.
> |
> | Thanks.
> | EW
> |
> | "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:ugPI6HMpIHA.4280@xxxxxx
> | > OE and WLM are the same in this regard.
> | > By default, both download the complete message.
> | > Both also offer message rules where you can elect not to download
> | > messages exceeding a specified size.
> | >
> | > --
> | > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
> | >
> | >
> | > "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:480e5186$0$47101$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
> | > >I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
> | > > couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
> | > >
> | > > In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all
> | my
> | > > new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the
> | complete
> | > > message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I
> | open
> | > > them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads
> | the
> | > > entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so,
> | that's
> | > > really lame.
> | > >
> | > > Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the
> | complete,
> | > > downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
> | > >
> | > > EW
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>

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Old 04-22-2008   #7 (permalink)
mae


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

Even so, thank you, as you saved me the trouble and time downloading Live mail.
I don't like-use POP (even though I have hotmail plus and msn POP accounts)

-
mae

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:unEuwIOpIHA.1164@xxxxxx
|I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the OP was talking about a standard
| POP account. I don't consider a Hotmail HTTP account to fit that criteria.
|
| --
| Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
|
|
| "mae" <agrannie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23gnFkdNpIHA.2188@xxxxxx
| > Glad you asked that as it is same for me.
| > I only download new headers from Hotmail.
| > That way I have choice.
| > No filters, no rules, no spam.
| > Served as reference for what was stored in Hotmail.
| > Was a perfect setup.
| >
| > mae
| >
| > "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:480e70fb$0$47115$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
| > | Thanks Gary. Not to belabor the issue, but my OE has NEVER downloaded the
| > | contents of messages. Never. And I have no rules in place -- just
checked.
| > | It's only when I double click the message that the contents are downloaded
| > | for that message only. Been doing this for years.
| > |
| > | Oh well, I guess I'll have to figure something out, or use web mail. Just
| > | like in my OE, web mail (Hotmail) only shows me messages that are "ready"
| > | for me to click on and view the entire contents.
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > | EW
| > |
| > | "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:ugPI6HMpIHA.4280@xxxxxx
| > | > OE and WLM are the same in this regard.
| > | > By default, both download the complete message.
| > | > Both also offer message rules where you can elect not to download
| > | > messages exceeding a specified size.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:480e5186$0$47101$892e7fe2@xxxxxx
| > | > >I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
| > | > > couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
| > | > >
| > | > > In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all
| > | my
| > | > > new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the
| > | complete
| > | > > message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and
I
| > | open
| > | > > them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads
| > | the
| > | > > entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so,
| > | that's
| > | > > really lame.
| > | > >
| > | > > Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the
| > | complete,
| > | > > downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
| > | > >
| > | > > EW
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
|
|

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Old 04-23-2008   #8 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

And your choice for those accounts exclusive of pop3 after June 30 will be ?

--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"mae" <agrannie@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#9u1ncOpIHA.552@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Even so, thank you, as you saved me the trouble and time downloading Live mail.
> I don't like-use POP (even though I have hotmail plus and msn POP accounts)
Quote:

> | > Glad you asked that as it is same for me.
> | > I only download new headers from Hotmail.
> | > That way I have choice.
> | > No filters, no rules, no spam.
> | > Served as reference for what was stored in Hotmail.
> | > Was a perfect setup.


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Old 04-23-2008   #9 (permalink)
ahmetgns


 
 

RE: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

You CAN change the synchronization settings for each folder which your main
Hotmail folder includes. In the folder list, expand Hotmail folder, then
right click each sub-mail folders and choose "Synchronization Settings>Only
headers".

Also if you are displaying the reading pane, then Windows Live Mail may have
been set to automatically download mails which are displayed in the Preview
pane. To change it, go to WLM Options>Read tab and uncheck the related option.

"LoneStar" wrote:
Quote:

> I saw the message whereby Outlook Express will discontinue service in a
> couple of months. Too bad. Now for the question..........
>
> In Outlook Express I go to my Inbox and it automatically downloads all my
> new mail -- just the basic subject line, date, etc., but NOT the complete
> message content. Some of my messages come with major attachments and I open
> them only if I wish. However, I believe that Live Mail only downloads the
> entire contents of the messages in the Inbox. Is that true? If so, that's
> really lame.
>
> Am I wrong? I only want the headers showing in my Inbox, not the complete,
> downloaded contents. Is there a solution? Thanks.
>
> EW
>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-23-2008   #10 (permalink)
Fflei


 
 

Re: Outlook Express vs Live Mail

Easy. Ditch all free accounts and not renew the paid-for hotmail accounts and
take my business elsewhere.

Your question, and the way it is put, encapsulates everything that is
objectionable about the philosophy behind the development and deployment of
Live Mail.
--
Fflei


"...winston" wrote:
Quote:

> And your choice for those accounts exclusive of pop3 after June 30 will be ?
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp windows live mail
>
>
> "mae" <agrannie@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#9u1ncOpIHA.552@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Even so, thank you, as you saved me the trouble and time downloading Live mail.
> > I don't like-use POP (even though I have hotmail plus and msn POP accounts)
>
Quote:

> > | > Glad you asked that as it is same for me.
> > | > I only download new headers from Hotmail.
> > | > That way I have choice.
> > | > No filters, no rules, no spam.
> > | > Served as reference for what was stored in Hotmail.
> > | > Was a perfect setup.
>
>
>
>
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