Vista - Fixing something that isn't broke!

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:12:58 -0500, Liviu wrote:
I used to use three Identities. One "feature" of MSOE that was especialy
annoying was the tendency to mingle messages of multiple Hotmail accounts in
a single Identity. The only reliable cure I found was to add only one MSN
Hotmail account per MSOE Identity. Beyond the need to keep MSN Hotmail
accounts separated, I did not find Identities all that useful.

So far, three Hotmail accounts with DeltaSync, and no sign of scrambling
messages between them.
I always found the per-Identity feature of WAB confusing. OTOH, looking at
the WLM Address Book as I type. "All conacts" show 180. Specific contact
groups below that, showing various quantities less than 180. The ability to
create arbitrary groups seems pretty flexible. I have not tested to see if I
can make it always open set to a preferred group, other than "All contacts".

It appears that the Address Book that opens is the one for the logged in
Windows Live ID. I guess I need to fool around some more. Since I only
intend to use WLM for Windows Live Mail, there are some things that I have
not tested.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

I downloaded Windows Live Mail Desktop recently and I hate it.
These are some of the reasons I've discovered so far:
1. I hate the way it imports all emails and accounts from Outlook Express
without asking me first.
2. Also takes an AGE to install and doesn't display the progress pane.
3. I hate having each email account in a separate folder structure. I want
the option of having emails all go into one folder and then having my
"storage folder" separate to that.
4. Should be possible to put storage folder at the top.
5. I liked the Identity facility, ok it wasn't very secure but that's a
choice people can make. It was very easy and quick to use. This is a big
loss to my mind.
6. The Find facility in Outlook Express was very easy to use and worked
well, eg chosing to search for a message by To, From, Subject field etc.
Find in WLM looks far more complicated.
7. Using WLM with the keyboard is not NEARLY so easy as Outlook Express was.
This is going to make it difficult for people who can't use a mouse, and
visually impaired people using screen readers.

Feedback is available from the WLM menu bar
WLM\Help\Send Feedback(web)
or
https://feedback.live.com/default.as...=wlmaildesktop

--
...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail


"BCP" <BCP@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:19A37A82-3404-4BA0-9B80-0E826FC0E2E9@xxxxxx

Yup, The lengthy import created the impression that WLM
couldn't handle all my mail. I thought it was broken then I
wondered where's my drive space going.

I find WLM garish and it displayed all folders with flag
message only, I'd have to change to hide read, or show all;
tedium I'd rather not deal with. I'm sticking to OE (and XP)
and might loose Hotmail. That's okay, I suppose, Gmail
supports IMAP.


"Maffysdad" <Maffysdad@xxxxxx> wrote in
message
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Hmmmph, why not switch Hotmail to Exchange and sell Outlook
Lite.


"Liviu" <lab2k1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OUc%233MapIHA.524@xxxxxx....

How many run POP, IMAP and webmail on the same server?


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Small outfits do. The larger ones use dedicated servers. Very large
mail providers have a whole farm of mail servers.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"no one" <no @ mail .com> wrote in message news:OXVERKUqIHA.1768@xxxxxx

Problem is, it doesn't work like it did in OE. Yes, the OE rules imported,
but no, the behavior is quite different. So far, I could only get rules to
work on my local ISP account - HughesNet - downloads. Rules did not work to
move my downloaded Gmail emails to the appropriate folders in the same way
that OE works.

The Help files states that Gmail is considered POP3...and rules don't work
on HTTP accounts...that said, the rules should work, but it doesn't. And by
the way, Gmail is set for POP3 download and delete from server once
downloaded.

I think there is something wrong under the hood with the way WLM executes
rules on a downloaded Gmail account.

Regards,
Ryder


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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It works on my gmail pop3 enabled account. It is the last rule in the sequence of all other rules, all others are stopped prior to
the Gmail rule starting.

It was currently set to move it to a separate user create folder within my Gmail account.
I also changed to move to a user created folder in the Storage folders, works there too.

Note: It does take a while for the unread counter to show up indicating I've an unread message regardless of the folder to which it
is moved.

My rule is setup as:
Where the To Line contains my gmail address, then move it to the specified folder, then stop processing more rules?

What criteria are you using ?
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Ryder" <ryder@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uztScVaqIHA.2208@xxxxxx

Well, I don't use rules to move downloaded email to an email account's
folder, never have used it for that purpose, except emails that come to our
website...they go into the respective website folder for that domain.

My rules, since they executed on the OE inbox while downloading, are more
geared to topic. Example: an incoming travel reservation where the From is
from AirlinesA, subject is "reservation confirmation" move to AirlinesA
folder, and stop processing more rules. In OE, works without a hitch. In
WLM, I select the rule to execute and the folder to execute on, the move to
folder is located in the Storage Folder area...since this is where WLM
imported all my folders. However, the rule shows it's executing, but
nothing happens. The email is still in the source folder/account. By the
way, WLM dumped unprocessed rules into the first email account it found, so
that's where I point the rule to execute on, not the gmail account, since
there's nothing in there.

Another type of rule is based on the sender, an example is a rule to move
all my daughter's incoming emails to her folder, where the From lists all
her email accounts, and the move to is her folder name, and stop processing
more rules. In OE, this works fine. In WLM, selected the rule, selected
the folder to apply to, but the email sits in the same place and never
moves.

The first rule I tested that didn't work....on the account WLM imported
unprocessed email was a rule to delete emails from a specific company, where
From is CompanyA, delete, stop processing more rules....created in
WLM...and it didn't work. The same rule created in OE works. That's what
got me started on testing my imported OE rules and creating new rules in
WLM.

Out of curiosity, I created a rule to move my hughesnet email to an existing
hughesnet folder located in the Storage Folder area, and that rule worked
just fine.

I do not have my email going to HughesNet since their connection to internet
and email servers is too unreliable, so all my email gets forwarded to Gmail
and downloaded from there. The only reason I had an email from HughesNet to
test with is because they sent out a notice to their customers. Otherwise,
I would have had to test send an email to hughesnet. Anyway, the point is
that the rules seem to execute on my ISP emails, not on any of my imported
gmail emails. I have not checked my gmail account for new email to test
with, maybe that's what I need to do. It shouldn't matter whether the
email is imported or freshly downloaded...to test a rule.

Anyway, I'll play more with it when I get the time, in the meantime, am
still using OE as the primary until I see certain things working the way I
think they should in WLM.

Thanks for your input and comments.

Regards,
Ryder


"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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