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Old 04-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
Nuvin
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Why?

Why dows WLM not get to my Hotmail account when send/receiving ??? It always
seems to get stuck on "Checking Hotmail" for a minute or two.... then an
error message pops up that says "Try using the Web mail or try later... lol."
Howeverm try Send/Receive a second time, and it works...

Also, why does it synchronise all my hotmail folders. In OE, when you
clicked on your Hotmail account in the tree pane, you could select which
folders to synchronise and which ones not to.

And Finally, why does my computer seem to take longer (much longer) to open
WLM than it did for OE???

Please, I need answers... Thanks.

Old 04-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
Nuvin
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RE: Why?

Oh and also.... what do I do so I can always see the Send/Receive progress
window??? WLM sometimes run it in the background.... but I want to see it
(ALWAYS THERE without me having to click in the status bar), just like it is
OE or Outlook,

Thanks.

Old 04-24-2008   #3 (permalink)
N. Miller
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Re: Why?

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:28:01 -0700, Nuvin wrote:
Quote:

> Why dows WLM not get to my Hotmail account when send/receiving ??? It always
> seems to get stuck on "Checking Hotmail" for a minute or two.... then an
> error message pops up that says "Try using the Web mail or try later... lol."
> Howeverm try Send/Receive a second time, and it works...
I have seen that on a rare occasion. Probably a server side glitch.
Quote:

> Also, why does it synchronise all my hotmail folders. In OE, when you
> clicked on your Hotmail account in the tree pane, you could select which
> folders to synchronise and which ones not to.
WLM defaults to synchronizing all folders. You have to change the
synchronization action to suit your desire.
Quote:

> And Finally, why does my computer seem to take longer (much longer) to open
> WLM than it did for OE???
>
> Please, I need answers... Thanks.
It only takes a little longer on my computer; but MSOE is only synchronizing
one Windows Live Mail account while WLM is synchronizing two. Change the
synchronization settings for any HTTPMail and IMAP accounts, and the
download options for any POP3 account. The less work WLM has to do by way of
fetch and synch on startup, the quicker it should load.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
Old 04-25-2008   #4 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Why?

"Nuvin" <Nuvin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
newsD27C42F-A382-4131-BD1C-DE01631948F9@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Why dows WLM not get to my Hotmail account when send/receiving ??? It always
> seems to get stuck on "Checking Hotmail" for a minute or two.... then an
> error message pops up that says "Try using the Web mail or try later... lol."

Could depend on your network configuration. E.g. I was having
related problems and worse with my PPPoE connection
until I decided to make both OE and WLMail connect
through it explicitly (e.g. force a dial, when necessary).

Quote:

> Howeverm try Send/Receive a second time, and it works...

So, if you have PPPoE too but WLMail only thinks it is
connected to a LAN which has constant connection to the
Internet, the first try would have created that connection
and the second try got to use it. ; )


....
Quote:

> And Finally, why does my computer seem to take longer (much longer) to open
> WLM than it did for OE???

WLMail is a .NET app. It seems to need a lot more real
memory, otherwise you are probably seeing a lot of paging
caused by it. I think they're just getting us used to
the idea of Vista's new hardware requirements... <eg>

Quote:

>
> Please, I need answers... Thanks.

HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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Old 04-25-2008   #5 (permalink)
N. Miller
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Re: Why?

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:33:39 -0400, Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
Quote:

> "Nuvin" <Nuvin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> newsD27C42F-A382-4131-BD1C-DE01631948F9@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Why dows WLM not get to my Hotmail account when send/receiving ??? It always
>> seems to get stuck on "Checking Hotmail" for a minute or two.... then an
>> error message pops up that says "Try using the Web mail or try later... lol."
Quote:

> Could depend on your network configuration. E.g. I was having
> related problems and worse with my PPPoE connection
> until I decided to make both OE and WLMail connect
> through it explicitly (e.g. force a dial, when necessary).
I have a PPPoE ADSL account.

On my MSOE Options "Connection" tab, and on my WLM Options "Connection" tab,
I have the following set:

[ ]Ask befor switching dial-up
[ ]Hang up after sending and receiving.

On the Internet Properties "Connections" tabs, both are set so:

(*)Never dial a connection
( )Dial whenever a network connection is not present
( )Always dial my default connection

In MSOE, all accounts are set to "Any available".
In WLM, all accounts have the "Connect using" checkbox clear.

Nearly as I can tell, everything MSFT is configured for a LAN.

I have no PPPoE connection software on my computer; nor am I running the
native PPPoE connection software on any Windows OS.

I have no PPPoE connection configured on my router.

My DSL modem is set to use PPPoE to log on at the DSL service provider POP
center.

WLM is working just fine.
Quote:
Quote:

>> Howeverm try Send/Receive a second time, and it works...
Quote:

> So, if you have PPPoE too but WLMail only thinks it is
> connected to a LAN which has constant connection to the
> Internet, the first try would have created that connection
> and the second try got to use it. ; )
The first thing is to see where the PPPoE connection is being made. A single
user with a single computer on the connection may will be running PPPoE on
the computer; but that is not necessary, nor do most DSL expers recommend
it. Even if you have no need for a router, if your DSL modem is capable of
running the PPPoE session, you should set it up so. Only if you just have a
DSL bridge and no router does it become necessary to set up PPPoE on the
computer.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
Old 04-26-2008   #6 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Why?

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ltcgv5hnz9bi.dlg@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I have a PPPoE ADSL account.
>
> On my MSOE Options "Connection" tab, and on my WLM Options "Connection" tab,
> I have the following set:
>
> [ ]Ask befor switching dial-up
> [ ]Hang up after sending and receiving.

Yes. Me too.

Quote:

>
> On the Internet Properties "Connections" tabs, both are set so:
>
> (*)Never dial a connection

Yes. Me too.

Quote:

> ( )Dial whenever a network connection is not present
> ( )Always dial my default connection
>
> In MSOE, all accounts are set to "Any available".
> In WLM, all accounts have the "Connect using" checkbox clear.

That's the only change I made. Before I told OE and WLMail
to look for the PPPoE connection explicitly I had trouble such
as the OP described plus frequent trouble with messages
being stuck in the Outbox until I deliberately sent them with Alt-T,S,S

Quote:

>
> Nearly as I can tell, everything MSFT is configured for a LAN.

IE still is, though I suspect I could make it use the PPPoE
connection too. But if I forget to either at least check for
E-mail or explicitly use the Start menu's Connect To menu
item I am likely to get the OP's symptom, especially when
I know that the modem probably dropped the connection.

Quote:

>
> I have no PPPoE connection software on my computer; nor am I running the
> native PPPoE connection software on any Windows OS.
>
> I have no PPPoE connection configured on my router.
>
> My DSL modem is set to use PPPoE to log on at the DSL service provider POP
> center.

I could do that but I was worried about having to continually
be aware of its admin app, which IE sometimes seems to
have difficulty getting into and I usually have to reorient myself
with every time I use it.

How often do you have to use your modem's admin app
to check on connectivity symptoms or kick start it?
Or is a common troubleshooting step just to power
the modem off and on?

Quote:

>
> WLM is working just fine.
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Howeverm try Send/Receive a second time, and it works...
>
Quote:

>> So, if you have PPPoE too but WLMail only thinks it is
>> connected to a LAN which has constant connection to the
>> Internet, the first try would have created that connection
>> and the second try got to use it. ; )
>
> The first thing is to see where the PPPoE connection is being made. A single
> user with a single computer on the connection may will be running PPPoE on
> the computer; but that is not necessary, nor do most DSL expers recommend
> it. Even if you have no need for a router, if your DSL modem is capable of
> running the PPPoE session, you should set it up so. Only if you just have a
> DSL bridge and no router does it become necessary to set up PPPoE on the
> computer.

Actually my modem is supposed to be capable of being
a router/firewall too. I just set it up as a bridge so I could
understand what was going on with the PPPoE. ; )

And that still doesn't help me understand how the DNS
works then... : \ Won't I be trading off this easily understood
infrequent symptom for an annoying intermittent lack of
connectivity due to DNS lookup failure?


Robert
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Old 04-26-2008   #7 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen
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Re: Why?

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9CD9E242-03D6-4057-AA5C-9F721496C02E@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ltcgv5hnz9bi.dlg@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> I have a PPPoE ADSL account.
>>
>> On my MSOE Options "Connection" tab, and on my WLM Options "Connection" tab,
>> I have the following set:
>>
>> [ ]Ask befor switching dial-up
>> [ ]Hang up after sending and receiving.
>
>
> Yes. Me too.
>
>
Quote:

>>
>> On the Internet Properties "Connections" tabs, both are set so:
>>
>> (*)Never dial a connection
>
>
> Yes. Me too.
>
>
Quote:

>> ( )Dial whenever a network connection is not present
>> ( )Always dial my default connection
>>
>> In MSOE, all accounts are set to "Any available".
>> In WLM, all accounts have the "Connect using" checkbox clear.
>
>
> That's the only change I made. Before I told OE and WLMail
> to look for the PPPoE connection explicitly I had trouble such
> as the OP described plus frequent trouble with messages
> being stuck in the Outbox until I deliberately sent them with Alt-T,S,S
>
>
Quote:

>>
>> Nearly as I can tell, everything MSFT is configured for a LAN.
>
>
> IE still is, though I suspect I could make it use the PPPoE
> connection too. But if I forget to either at least check for
> E-mail or explicitly use the Start menu's Connect To menu
> item I am likely to get the OP's symptom, especially when
> I know that the modem probably dropped the connection.
>
>
Quote:

>>
>> I have no PPPoE connection software on my computer; nor am I running the
>> native PPPoE connection software on any Windows OS.
>>
>> I have no PPPoE connection configured on my router.
>>
>> My DSL modem is set to use PPPoE to log on at the DSL service provider POP
>> center.
>
>
> I could do that but I was worried about having to continually
> be aware of its admin app, which IE sometimes seems to
> have difficulty getting into and I usually have to reorient myself
> with every time I use it.
> How often do you have to use your modem's admin app
> to check on connectivity symptoms or kick start it?
> Or is a common troubleshooting step just to power
> the modem off and on?
My DSL connection doesn't have a modem admin app, at least
it is not necessary to install the admin software supplied by the
connection provider. If I want to check on the modem status,
I use my browser to go to http://192.168.0.1. Most modern
DSL modems have web-access admin tools built in.

If you have a choice, PPPoE works better on the modem or router
than on the computer, especially if you want to eliminate any
startup lags or idle time-outs.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


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