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| | imap I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed something odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. The purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge button or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it disappears instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour since it removes the need for the purge button. I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing something. |
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| | #2 (permalink) |
| | Re: imap Hi, Jack. I've never used IMAP, just POP3. But in WLM, deleted messages usually go into Deleted Items; there is a separate Deleted Items folder for each email account. On the Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance tab, there are settings for "Cleaning up Messages", including a check box for "Purge deleted messages when leaving IMAP folders". Is this what you are looking for? (On this tab, I check the box for "Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items' folder on exit".) Also, on the way to this tab, on the Advanced tab, there is a check box for "Use the 'Deleted Items' folder for IMAP accounts". Do you have a check in this box? By the way, I'm using Vista Ultimate. What OS are you running? It might not matter, but it always helps if we know what OS we are dealing with. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@xxxxxx Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OqT1ullpIHA.3408@xxxxxx Quote: > I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed something > odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. > > Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was > marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. The > purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge button > or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it disappears > instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour since it removes > the need for the purge button. > > I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing > something. |
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| | Re: imap Been there. Done that. No luck. I think this is a bug in WLM, but on a grand scale, I can live with it. "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8ED2A76A-B067-4D45-B3FF-C648D29F1BE1@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, Jack. > > I've never used IMAP, just POP3. But in WLM, deleted messages usually go > into Deleted Items; there is a separate Deleted Items folder for each > email account. > > On the Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance tab, there are settings > for "Cleaning up Messages", including a check box for "Purge deleted > messages when leaving IMAP folders". Is this what you are looking for? > (On this tab, I check the box for "Empty messages from the 'Deleted Items' > folder on exit".) Also, on the way to this tab, on the Advanced tab, > there is a check box for "Use the 'Deleted Items' folder for IMAP > accounts". Do you have a check in this box? > > By the way, I'm using Vista Ultimate. What OS are you running? It might > not matter, but it always helps if we know what OS we are dealing with. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc@xxxxxx > Microsoft Windows MVP > (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) > > "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:OqT1ullpIHA.3408@xxxxxx Quote: >> I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed >> something odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. >> >> Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was >> marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. The >> purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge >> button or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it >> disappears instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour >> since it removes the need for the purge button. >> >> I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing >> something. |
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| | #4 (permalink) |
| | Re: imap Hi, Jack. Well, since I don't use IMAP and no longer use OE, I'm out of ideas. Next time, please use Reply to Group, rather than Reply to All. That way, your response will still come here to the newsgroup but it will not also come to me as an email reply. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@xxxxxx Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uc0d81ppIHA.1772@xxxxxx Quote: > Been there. Done that. No luck. > > I think this is a bug in WLM, but on a grand scale, I can live with it. > > "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:8ED2A76A-B067-4D45-B3FF-C648D29F1BE1@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hi, Jack. >> >> I've never used IMAP, just POP3. But in WLM, deleted messages usually go >> into Deleted Items; there is a separate Deleted Items folder for each >> email account. >> >> On the Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance tab, there are settings >> for "Cleaning up Messages", including a check box for "Purge deleted >> messages when leaving IMAP folders". Is this what you are looking for? >> (On this tab, I check the box for "Empty messages from the 'Deleted >> Items' folder on exit".) Also, on the way to this tab, on the Advanced >> tab, there is a check box for "Use the 'Deleted Items' folder for IMAP >> accounts". Do you have a check in this box? >> >> By the way, I'm using Vista Ultimate. What OS are you running? It might >> not matter, but it always helps if we know what OS we are dealing with. >> >> RC >> >> "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:OqT1ullpIHA.3408@xxxxxx Quote: >>> I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed >>> something odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. >>> >>> Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was >>> marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. The >>> purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge >>> button or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it >>> disappears instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour >>> since it removes the need for the purge button. >>> >>> I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing >>> something. |
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| | Re: imap "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OqT1ullpIHA.3408@xxxxxx Quote: > I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed something > odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. > > Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was > marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. The > purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge button > or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it disappears > instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour since it removes > the need for the purge button. Without any proof it could be just as likely evidence of a bug in OE. E.g. the server may have been perfectly happy to allow the delete but if OE ignored any such indication then the purge may have been necessary. If you still have access to the same server with both OE and WLMail it could be informative to trace the same scenario with both and compare their traces. I believe that IMAP.log is one of the more comprehensive diagnostics that OE produces and assume it would be the same for WLMail. Quote: > > I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing > something. HTH Robert Aldwinckle --- |
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| | Re: imap Have you mapped the Deleted items folder correctly to the one on the server? When I delete a message from an IMAP inbox, it is moved to the Deleted items folder just like with any other account, and there it stays until I permanently delete it. IMAP servers have a wide variety of configurations. You have to make sure that the ones in WLMail match with the particular server you are connecting to. For example, some people have had problems if 'Check for new messages in all folders' is selected; others if it isn't. Check the server documentation or contact the server support people before deciding that this is a bug in WLMail - which is not the same program as Outlook Express, despite many apparent similarities. -- Noel "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uc0d81ppIHA.1772@xxxxxx Quote: > Been there. Done that. No luck. > > I think this is a bug in WLM, but on a grand scale, I can live > with it. > > "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:8ED2A76A-B067-4D45-B3FF-C648D29F1BE1@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hi, Jack. >> >> I've never used IMAP, just POP3. But in WLM, deleted messages >> usually go into Deleted Items; there is a separate Deleted Items >> folder for each email account. >> >> On the Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance tab, there are >> settings for "Cleaning up Messages", including a check box for >> "Purge deleted messages when leaving IMAP folders". Is this what >> you are looking for? (On this tab, I check the box for "Empty >> messages from the 'Deleted Items' folder on exit".) Also, on the >> way to this tab, on the Advanced tab, there is a check box for >> "Use the 'Deleted Items' folder for IMAP accounts". Do you have >> a check in this box? >> >> By the way, I'm using Vista Ultimate. What OS are you running? >> It might not matter, but it always helps if we know what OS we >> are dealing with. >> >> RC >> -- >> R. C. White, CPA >> San Marcos, TX >> rc@xxxxxx >> Microsoft Windows MVP >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) >> >> "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:OqT1ullpIHA.3408@xxxxxx Quote: >>> I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed >>> something odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. >>> >>> Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the >>> message was marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away >>> until it was purged. The purge could occur for a couple of >>> reasons such as pushing the purge button or leaving the folder. >>> In WML, you delete a message and it disappears instantly. I >>> can't believe this is the intended behaviour since it removes >>> the need for the purge button. >>> >>> I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly >>> missing something. |
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| | Re: imap I don't think so. The Deleted folder is empty. How do I do that mapping? Thanks "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#0EM775pIHA.3960@xxxxxx Quote: > Have you mapped the Deleted items folder correctly to the one on the > server? When I delete a message from an IMAP inbox, it is moved to the > Deleted items folder just like with any other account, and there it stays > until I permanently delete it. > > IMAP servers have a wide variety of configurations. You have to make sure > that the ones in WLMail match with the particular server you are > connecting to. For example, some people have had problems if 'Check for > new messages in all folders' is selected; others if it isn't. Check the > server documentation or contact the server support people before deciding > that this is a bug in WLMail - which is not the same program as Outlook > Express, despite many apparent similarities. > -- > Noel > > "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:uc0d81ppIHA.1772@xxxxxx Quote: >> Been there. Done that. No luck. >> >> I think this is a bug in WLM, but on a grand scale, I can live with it. >> >> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:8ED2A76A-B067-4D45-B3FF-C648D29F1BE1@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Hi, Jack. >>> >>> I've never used IMAP, just POP3. But in WLM, deleted messages usually >>> go into Deleted Items; there is a separate Deleted Items folder for each >>> email account. >>> >>> On the Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance tab, there are settings >>> for "Cleaning up Messages", including a check box for "Purge deleted >>> messages when leaving IMAP folders". Is this what you are looking for? >>> (On this tab, I check the box for "Empty messages from the 'Deleted >>> Items' folder on exit".) Also, on the way to this tab, on the Advanced >>> tab, there is a check box for "Use the 'Deleted Items' folder for IMAP >>> accounts". Do you have a check in this box? >>> >>> By the way, I'm using Vista Ultimate. What OS are you running? It might >>> not matter, but it always helps if we know what OS we are dealing with. >>> >>> RC >>> -- >>> R. C. White, CPA >>> San Marcos, TX >>> rc@xxxxxx >>> Microsoft Windows MVP >>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) >>> >>> "Jack Gostl" <gostl@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:OqT1ullpIHA.3408@xxxxxx >>>> I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed >>>> something odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. >>>> >>>> Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was >>>> marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. >>>> The purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge >>>> button or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it >>>> disappears instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour >>>> since it removes the need for the purge button. >>>> >>>> I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing >>>> something. >>> |
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| | RE: imap I had exactly the same question as yours. I did google but found out no solution except for your post here. After some "tuning" of WLM, I figured out a solution working for me. Try the followings: 1, in the options of WLM, click advanced tab and uncheck the box "use the 'deleted iterms' folders for the imap account" 2, in the menu of WLM, find view - current view, select "show deleted messages" done, You may also want to check the properties of imap accounts and uncheck the box "store special folders on imap server" under imap tab. But it seems not affecting the problem above. Hope that also works for you. "Jack Gostl" wrote: Quote: > I don't know how many people use imap through WML, but I noticed something > odd. I don't know if it was by accident or by choice. > > Under OE, when you deleted a message in an imap folder, the message was > marked as deleted, but it didn't really go away until it was purged. The > purge could occur for a couple of reasons such as pushing the purge button > or leaving the folder. In WML, you delete a message and it disappears > instantly. I can't believe this is the intended behaviour since it removes > the need for the purge button. > > I like having a second chance with purged messages. I'm clearly missing > something. > > |
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