Vista - Where's Windows live calendar

MS asked me to change from outlook to windows live, but they didn't tell me
that i would lose the calander function. Is there some way of haveing a
calendar in windows live? or do i need to set up a stand alone calander and
icon

Oooops, MS didn't inform me that Windows Live Mail isn't the same as Windows
Live Home (which has the Calendar in it, and which they downloaded at the
same time as Mail). You can find Windows Live Home under ,
Start>programs>windows Live>.

And Mr MS if you read this, can we have a "new mail animation" as does
incrediMail
Thanks

Grrr oh Mr MS you are such a pain in... in the A. WLH mail goes direct to
hotmail, hence all of my contacts in Outlook and which could be imported into
WLM but can't in WLH. If i didn't have all my infor on Outlook and if
IncrediMail could imported my sent/deleted subfolders etc i'd go straight to
them. WAKE UP MS.

Funny now MR MS has blocked my IncrediMail access to Hotmail. Well atleast
you guys are reading the thread.

"derek" wrote:

Why in heavens would you want to change from Outlook to WLM?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"derek" <derek@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:17C5F3B3-C041-48C0-86C8-A6B8FFCE299C@xxxxxx

Hi Gary,
I was told via an MS message that it wasn't going to be supporting Outlook
anymore (or that hotmail won't be allowing acess after June...can't remember
which) anyway this was an opportunity to use their "link" to change to WL. I
have spent most of today chaging everything across to WLH (as opposed to
WLM). Even to get it to link email address i've had to resort to the
"classic" format. So i'm basically back to where i was with Outlook (minus a
few features which i didn't use)
Regards Derek

"derek" <derek@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B3539827-8264-40FC-A8BE-1EFD5D45CC0D@xxxxxxIt looks like you're confusing Outlook with Outlook Express. They're
separate
programs, even though they have similar names.

On Mon, 5 May 2008 01:05:01 -0700, derek wrote:
Windows Live Hotmail is turning off WebDAV on June 30, 2008. This will
affect *all* clients which use WebDAV for HTTPMail access.

MS has some options out there. If you are using MS Outlook, your best
option, if you have OL2003, or OL2007, is to get the "Outlook Connector",
which is an Outlook Plugin that provides support for the new HTTPMail
protocol, DeltaSync. If you have an older version of MS Outlook, I presume
you would first have to upgrade to OL2007 (doubt if they still sell OL2003).

If you are using MS Outlook Express, your only hope is to either buy a copy
of MS Outlook, or download the free Windows Live Mail.

P.S. I don't think much of Incredimail. If ever there was an email client
worse than MS Outlook Express, Incredimail is it.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

<robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OhjfzyorIHA.5872@xxxxxxOE has never had a calendar function. Outlook has.
--
Ronald Sommer

"derek" wrote in
<news:C3F35C9D-F8DC-44E2-BC0F-2D340D7D9058@xxxxxx>:
Incredimail - The choice of immature, irresponsible, and ignorant e-mail
users

Incredimail is the choice of immature e-mail users, those that need to
hide the fact that they have little substance in the content of their
message and need to fluff it up with extraneous style and extra garbage.
Or maybe you are a marketer or spammer and that's why you need to bloat
your messages: little to say so use something to enlarge it. Sure,
yeah, your recipients want e-mails that are ten times larger than
necessary and bloated with fluff backgrounds, music, gifs, and other
non-essential crap. A simple 2KB message will bloat up to 55KB, or
worse. Are you trying to irritate your recipients that still use
dial-up by making them wait longer to receive your bloated mails?
You'll find anything you have in Incredimail, like contacts, will be
hard or impossible to get out once you decide to leave it.

Use a good e-mail program. Incredimail isn't one of them. If you
decide to continue using it, expect some of your recipients to block
that crap-ridden mail or even have it tagged as spam if you send many
mails to the same domain, especially for short messages since the fluff
crap will constitute most of the message and be seen as the major
content of all those repetitive e-mails. Also, you may find your
recipients don't appreciate getting childish content. The HTML coding
it employs is awful, and it is highly likely that most if not all of
your e-mails don't even require being sent as HTML messages (which, at a
minimum, doubles the size of your mails to provide an HTML copy and a
plain-text copy assuming that Incredimail follows the RFC standards
which wouldn't be a surprise if they don't).

Be a responsible and considerate email sender. Don't use Incredimail
which emphasizes style over content; i.e., you waste the recipient's
time, bandwidth, and disk space with fluff. Once you decide it is crap,
you'll be back asking how to uninstall it. ISPs or e-mail providers
will support only one or few e-mail clients (to minimize the training or
expertise required by their techs since the operation of the e-mail
client is not their concern but only in the settings needed for it to
use their e-mail service). Don't expect any to help you with
Incredimail. From what I read, don't even expect Incredimail to help
you with Incredimail. Did you even see a FAQ or help page at their web
site? Well, there is a very, VERY minimal help page but no link to it
from their main page (go hunting on their other web pages and look at
the bottom for a list of links).

When I send e-mail, I expect only my mail server to get it and deliver
it to the recipient. However, with Incredimail, it also connects to
them to send information about your use of Incredimail. Read
http://email.about.com/cs/incredimai...t/et063003.htm. Doesn't
anyone bother to read their, um, "policies"
(http://www.incredimail.com/english/privacy.asp)? They announce that
they will collect info regarding your e-mails. Oh no, they're not
spyware but they DO collect info on your e-mails. Sure, they don't spy,
uh huh - but they DO spy. An e-mail client should only be connecting to
the user's mail server, not to Incredimail's server, too. They would
like to redefine the term "spyware" to not include themself. People got
enraged with Gmail doing that to provide targeted marketing. No email
program should track your email (date & time, how many times you use
their program, which pictures you used) and store this marketing data on
a server located in a foreign country - but Incredimail does. They
admit that they collect info about your sent e-mails which means a data
collection and transmission mechanism is already incorporated into their
e-mail client. With that link between your computer and their server,
they can collect any information you enter into their email program,
including the contents of your mails, mail servers, and even passwords.
They *promise* not to interrogate the contents of your e-mails but the
mechanism is already there to send them whatever they want, and they
already openly admit to spying on you. The data is stored on their
servers in Israel. Do you know the privacy laws there? Have you ever
dealt with Israeli companies?

From their site, "IncrediMail relies on two platforms to make an income;
1) the sale of its software products and 2) advertisement via the Status
Window in the application and on the Web site." So either you buy it
from them or you choose to use their adware (ads in their Status
window). Not only do they spew ads in your face but they also append
their "promotional" spam signature at the end of every one of your
outbound e-mails. Free accounts at Yahoo and Hotmail do that, too, and
why I will receive from their service but I will NOT send through it.
Instead use your own ISP's SMTP server to send your outbound mails.
However, if you use the free Incredimail client, you spew spam in every
one of your outbound mails. Do you think your recipients really
appreciate getting Incredimail's ugly advertisement at the end of your
mails? You think your e-mails look professional with someone's spam
tacked onto the end of it (in addition to all the fluff they add to
bloat the size of your e-mails)? Are you devoted to producing
amateurish e-mails?

So here is crapware that severely bloats the size of mails, used by
children and spammers to hide that there is little content in their
mails, spies on your mails, and spews ads in your face (unless you buy
it although other *good* e-mail clients are free). Sometimes it is
difficult to believe that so many adults are so gullible and also such
irresponsible e-mailers.