Live Calendar Desktop ?

Is anyone aware of a calendar product in Live style ?

Ideally nothing more complicated than the Vista calendar (although not as
flat looking), with the ability to sync two-ways with Live Hotmail calendars
as well as Google calendar, ICalendar sources and ofcourse windows mobile.

It's the missing piece towards my goal to rid my desktop of Outlook once and
for all !

I fear that Microsoft engineers would introduce too much complexity in this
though. If they were aware of Live Mesh, they would propably dogfood it and
ship the product along with mesh (ie too late).

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There's
http://get.live.com/betas/calendar_betas

I haven't used it though, as I prefer Outlook's.

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"Georgios Kasselakis" <kcorax@xxxxxx>
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The Windows Live Calendar beta is a Web Service - there is no desktop
component which is what I understand to be provided by Outlook - in other
words no equivalent of WLM Desktop - dare I suggest WLC Desktop. Have you
looked at Mozilla's Sunbird it may suit your needs.
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"Georgios Kasselakis" <kcorax@xxxxxx>
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Lol..Desktop probably won't be part of any future Calendar name, since it was dropped from WLM's nomenclature quite some time
ago(at least everywhere except the title of this newsgroup <g>)

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@urbane, Sunbird is beta in the real sense of betas. It's really really
green. Can't use that. Also doesn't sync with my mobile. I hope that the
version included with OpenOffice 3 later this year will be stable.

@winston, name creeping is common in ms land. I suppose that when you ship
so many products, you have to refactor the names at some point. Then again
the thought of a Live HotCalendar along with a WL Calendar is dreadful to
say the least.

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We have been told by Microsoft (news:7399B681-1040-4EA1-B484-71CDEF863477@xxxxxx) that they are working toward a new version of Windows Live Mail with calendar functionality for release in late summer/early fall of USA.

I expect this calendar to have two way synchronisation with Windows Live Calendar.

A new version of Outlook Connector that provides Windows Live Calendar access from within Outlook to all users, is currently in dogfood (see: http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/a...h-for-all.aspx). I suspect that it will be released around the same time as the calendar integration with Windows Live Mail.

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"Georgios Kasselakis" <kcorax@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:22C073A2-D5D9-4C3C-97A0-357E0E93530E@xxxxxx

G'day

I'm of the opinion that MS made a mistake when it bundled Schedule+ and the
email system it got from Canada, into Outlook and in turn into Office. The
mess we have now with a plethora of mail solutions and no coherent
calendaring solution from MS is a legacy of that decision.

You imply that a S'Bird beta from OOo is more likely to be stable, than
something similar from Mozilla, on what basis do you make that conclusion.
I think I'm right is saying that the OOo crew are after Thunderbird too.

The OOo application is every bit as monolithic as the MS-Office, and whilst
it may conform to the rules of Open Source, it also falls a long way short
of conforming to the spirit of Open Systems. From my perspective the OOo
crew are so anti Microsoft that they don't even acknowledge that it (MS) has
a history from which lessons can be learnt.

It seems to me that by getting its hands on T'Bird and S'Bird that the OOo
crew is determined to repeat the same errors. They claim not to operate on
the "me too" principle, IMO they are so "me too" they want to make the same
mistakes - imitation may be the best form of flattery, but when it includes
making the same mistakes it is surely stupidity.

BTW - I don't have MS Office, I have OOo.
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"Georgios Kasselakis" <kcorax@xxxxxx>
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As a software engineer, it's evident to me that Outlook today and WLM has
nothing to do with the solutions Microsoft bought some ages ago. Code ages
and usually get's replaced when the time comes. It's seldom prudent to
actually upgrade and adapt when facing radical changes in the use cases, or
the operational context.

OpenOffice mentions Sunbird as the platform for their calendaring
environment, not inclusion of the Beta. I suppose it's on a fork that is cut
down in unstable features and appropriately sanitized.

Honestly, I have nothing against monolithic applications. In fact since as a
I'm quite certain you can't even define what monolithic means and what
problems it brings along. The very word is ugh.., it's for wannabe
semi-tech-savvy journalists that head sth from the oponent's evangelists.

There is *nothing* wrong with the me too approach. It's about making and
selling products, not about pride. This is a brain damage that Apple has
caused to the public. It's very very ok to copy if you can sell what you
make.

This is about money, not academic excellence.

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