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Store folders
  1. #1


    Jim Macklin Guest

    Store folders

    When installing, most settings seem to be picked up and used when
    switching from OE to Live Mail. But storage folders are not. If
    you store your mail and messages on another drive or partition,
    you will need to make that change manually.
    You will need to show all menus/then Tools/Options/Advanced and
    click on the Maintenance button. You'll find the generally
    familiar OE options.




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  2. #2


    ...winston Guest

    Re: Store folders

    That is correct Jim.
    The default location is intact until manually changed.

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    "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message news:F01B119C-115E-414F-A2F4-A99424BA0F25@xxxxxx

    > When installing, most settings seem to be picked up and used when switching from OE to Live Mail. But storage folders are not.
    > If you store your mail and messages on another drive or partition, you will need to make that change manually.
    > You will need to show all menus/then Tools/Options/Advanced and click on the Maintenance button. You'll find the generally
    > familiar OE options.


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  3. #3


    Fiddler Guest

    Re: Store folders

    Live Mail is a load of Bull Sht
    "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
    news:F01B119C-115E-414F-A2F4-A99424BA0F25@xxxxxx

    > When installing, most settings seem to be picked up and used when
    > switching from OE to Live Mail. But storage folders are not. If you
    > store your mail and messages on another drive or partition, you will need
    > to make that change manually.
    > You will need to show all menus/then Tools/Options/Advanced and click on
    > the Maintenance button. You'll find the generally familiar OE options.


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  4. #4


    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Store folders

    Hi, Jim.

    While they may have the same or very similar names, OE's Store Folder and
    WLM's Message Store have quite different structures and are entirely
    separate.

    OE stores messages in its own "folders" with names like Inbox.dbx and names
    that you might create, such as Family.dbx. A thousand messages from your
    Mom might be in the one file (although OE calls it a "folder") named
    Family.dbx. A single corrupted message there might cause you to lose all
    the thousand messages.

    WLM stores each message in a separate file, so that your thousand messages
    from Mom would be in a thousand files, each with a randomly-generated name
    and the .eml extension. A single corrupted message cannot corrupt the
    others.

    OE and WLM do not share their store folders at all; each maintains its own.
    That's why we can run OE and WLM side by side. A good practice during the
    transition from OE to WLM is to set each to leave a copy of emails on the
    server (this is the default in WLM but not in OE), with WLM set to delete
    the messages from the server after several (14?) days. Then, so long as you
    run OE at least every couple of weeks, its store folder will be complete
    until the time when you decide to retire OE. And WLM's message store will
    be complete from the time you migrated OE's messages into it.

    A fly in this ointment is the Sent Items folder. Since WLM doesn't know
    what you've sent when using OE (after the initial import), you'll have to
    remember to import that folder into WLM to get all the items you send from
    OE during the transition.

    RC
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    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@xxxxxx
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

    "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
    news:F01B119C-115E-414F-A2F4-A99424BA0F25@xxxxxx

    > When installing, most settings seem to be picked up and used when
    > switching from OE to Live Mail. But storage folders are not. If you
    > store your mail and messages on another drive or partition, you will need
    > to make that change manually.
    > You will need to show all menus/then Tools/Options/Advanced and click on
    > the Maintenance button. You'll find the generally familiar OE options.

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  5. #5


    Dirk Van de moortel Guest

    Re: Store folders

    R. C. White <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    A5F696E1-AF9E-4ECD-ADCA-A29F2555F83D@xxxxxx

    > Hi, Jim.
    >
    > While they may have the same or very similar names, OE's Store Folder and
    > WLM's Message Store have quite different structures and are entirely
    > separate.
    >
    > OE stores messages in its own "folders" with names like Inbox.dbx and names
    > that you might create, such as Family.dbx. A thousand messages from your
    > Mom might be in the one file (although OE calls it a "folder") named
    > Family.dbx. A single corrupted message there might cause you to lose all
    > the thousand messages.
    >
    > WLM stores each message in a separate file, so that your thousand messages
    > from Mom would be in a thousand files, each with a randomly-generated name
    > and the .eml extension. A single corrupted message cannot corrupt the
    > others.
    Right, each message in a separate file.
    That is what we call "File System Abuse".
    It is the reason why I removed WLM and will most probably never use it.

    Dirk Vdm


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  6. #6


    Gary VanderMolen Guest

    Re: Store folders

    "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxx-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:k6b_j.17524$zc6.10950@xxxxxx

    > R. C. White <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > A5F696E1-AF9E-4ECD-ADCA-A29F2555F83D@xxxxxx

    >> Hi, Jim.
    >>
    >> While they may have the same or very similar names, OE's Store Folder and
    >> WLM's Message Store have quite different structures and are entirely
    >> separate.
    >>
    >> OE stores messages in its own "folders" with names like Inbox.dbx and names
    >> that you might create, such as Family.dbx. A thousand messages from your
    >> Mom might be in the one file (although OE calls it a "folder") named
    >> Family.dbx. A single corrupted message there might cause you to lose all
    >> the thousand messages.
    >>
    >> WLM stores each message in a separate file, so that your thousand messages
    >> from Mom would be in a thousand files, each with a randomly-generated name
    >> and the .eml extension. A single corrupted message cannot corrupt the
    >> others.
    >
    > Right, each message in a separate file.
    > That is what we call "File System Abuse".
    > It is the reason why I removed WLM and will most probably never use it.
    With the low cost of disk space nowadays, it makes sense to trade disk
    space for increased message storage robustness.

    --
    Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP

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  7. #7


    rwphoto Guest

    Re: Store folders

    Hi all! I agree it's safe to keep individual files rather than huge .dbx
    files. I just migrated from OE to WLM. You have to get used to it, having ea.
    account independently, but what really annoyed me is that WLM renamed all my
    imported folders with a part of my original name and od characters mixing
    letters and numbers.
    In my archive folder I had names such as sent till 2006-12, and another one
    sent till 2007-12 and now I can't tell which folfer is each one in the
    storage folder in my HD.
    It displays correctly in the WLM interface, but for backup for example, I
    ca't recognize one folder from the other if they start with a similar name.
    Any ideas or help? Can this be solver or we must learn to live with it?
    Thanks! Rafael

    "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

    > "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxx-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:k6b_j.17524$zc6.10950@xxxxxx

    > > R. C. White <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > A5F696E1-AF9E-4ECD-ADCA-A29F2555F83D@xxxxxx

    > >> Hi, Jim.
    > >>
    > >> While they may have the same or very similar names, OE's Store Folder and
    > >> WLM's Message Store have quite different structures and are entirely
    > >> separate.
    > >>
    > >> OE stores messages in its own "folders" with names like Inbox.dbx and names
    > >> that you might create, such as Family.dbx. A thousand messages from your
    > >> Mom might be in the one file (although OE calls it a "folder") named
    > >> Family.dbx. A single corrupted message there might cause you to lose all
    > >> the thousand messages.
    > >>
    > >> WLM stores each message in a separate file, so that your thousand messages
    > >> from Mom would be in a thousand files, each with a randomly-generated name
    > >> and the .eml extension. A single corrupted message cannot corrupt the
    > >> others.
    > >
    > > Right, each message in a separate file.
    > > That is what we call "File System Abuse".
    > > It is the reason why I removed WLM and will most probably never use it.
    >
    > With the low cost of disk space nowadays, it makes sense to trade disk
    > space for increased message storage robustness.
    >
    > --
    > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
    >

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  8. #8


    ...winston Guest

    Re: Store folders

    Don't rename the folders in Explorer.

    You can create additional folders within the Storage Folders(e.g. keep them short names Sent0612 and don't create them in imported
    folders)
    Copy(not move) the messages into the new folders
    Allow WLM to reindex the new folders and messages
    Operate for a while to ensure the integrity of the index and messages.
    Backup those folders choosing the selective option(File/Export/Messages/ <select folders>/etc..
    Once backed up and comfortable, delete the original imported folders
    - your new folders and names and messages should be intact.

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    ms-mvp mail

    "rwphoto" <rwphoto@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:763C00CF-6E04-4081-B90A-3CA463BB968C@xxxxxx

    > Hi all! I agree it's safe to keep individual files rather than huge .dbx
    > files. I just migrated from OE to WLM. You have to get used to it, having ea.
    > account independently, but what really annoyed me is that WLM renamed all my
    > imported folders with a part of my original name and od characters mixing
    > letters and numbers.
    > In my archive folder I had names such as sent till 2006-12, and another one
    > sent till 2007-12 and now I can't tell which folfer is each one in the
    > storage folder in my HD.
    > It displays correctly in the WLM interface, but for backup for example, I
    > ca't recognize one folder from the other if they start with a similar name.
    > Any ideas or help? Can this be solver or we must learn to live with it?
    > Thanks! Rafael
    >
    > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
    >

    >> "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxx-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:k6b_j.17524$zc6.10950@xxxxxx

    >> > R. C. White <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> > A5F696E1-AF9E-4ECD-ADCA-A29F2555F83D@xxxxxx
    >> >> Hi, Jim.
    >> >>
    >> >> While they may have the same or very similar names, OE's Store Folder and
    >> >> WLM's Message Store have quite different structures and are entirely
    >> >> separate.
    >> >>
    >> >> OE stores messages in its own "folders" with names like Inbox.dbx and names
    >> >> that you might create, such as Family.dbx. A thousand messages from your
    >> >> Mom might be in the one file (although OE calls it a "folder") named
    >> >> Family.dbx. A single corrupted message there might cause you to lose all
    >> >> the thousand messages.
    >> >>
    >> >> WLM stores each message in a separate file, so that your thousand messages
    >> >> from Mom would be in a thousand files, each with a randomly-generated name
    >> >> and the .eml extension. A single corrupted message cannot corrupt the
    >> >> others.
    >> >
    >> > Right, each message in a separate file.
    >> > That is what we call "File System Abuse".
    >> > It is the reason why I removed WLM and will most probably never use it.
    >>
    >> With the low cost of disk space nowadays, it makes sense to trade disk
    >> space for increased message storage robustness.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
    >>

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