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Old 05-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
Stan Shankman
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Windows Live Mail hogging CPU – renders itself and XP into slow, slow, slow mode . . .

WLM hogging CPU
Renders itself and XP into slow mode . . .

Greetings newsgroupers,

I have been using WLM for a few weeks now.
When I first loaded and ran it, WLM brought over all of my Outlook Express
messages and accounts – took it a long time too!
Yet once installed, it stared out working okay however it did seem to run a
little slow – at least by comparison to Outlook Express. I was starting to
like WLM, and could live with the slight slowness. But in the past few days,
things have gotten much worse.
I am using WLM even now to post this message. So it is not entirely
disabled, but, things are not right.
(In fact, I just checked and right now CPU usage is normal for WLM. – Maybe
this problem only arises when I am in the “Mail” tab. ??)

Here are my symptoms:
When I first start Windows Live Mail, it runs off and completes its message
gathering operations okay. I can use it for a brief few seconds right after
it first starts, but then spontaneously and unexpectedly it starts hogging
big CPU. It is difficult for me to fully characterize this problem, but WLM
just start eating a lot of CPU. I do not know what it is doing. It happens
over and over, and I must force closed WLM if I am to use my computer. One
time I left it run in that high-CPU-state overnight, hoping that maybe it
was simply doing some internal housecleaning or some such thing. But in the
morning, task manager still reported over 90% CPU usage. I cannot use WLM in
this state. The entire computer runs at a crawl because of it, and I am
forced to use task manager to kill WLM so I can regain control of my
machine. (Windows XP Pro)
And now, I am totally dependent on WLM for all my messaging needs, and it
has created a serious difficulty for me.

Also, note this:
I have an extraordinarily large collection of messages. And I subscribe to
quite a few newsgroups (and news servers), and have an extensive archive of
past saves for those messages too. The bottom line is, I have a large data
base.
Yes, I do my backups.
Oh, and I do not run any virus or spyware programs other than Windows Live
One Care.
My machine is (has been) well behaved, and I do not suspect any memory or
other hardware problems.
I only have problems with WLM.

What must I now do to get WLM to start behaving properly?
Thanks all,

- Stan

Oh oh, even as I composed this mail, WLM spontaneously started using big
CPU. Task Manager now reports WLM at over 80%.
I hope this message will send! And I hope I am able to read any replies.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
Michael Santovec
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Re: Windows Live Mail hogging CPU - renders itself and XP into slow, slow, slow mode . . .

Are you perhaps running Windows Desktop Search? I've seen a number of
reports of problems with that program.

Also in Tools, Options, General, is WLM set to check for messages every
XX minutes? If so, set that for no more often then every 15 minutes and
see if it makes any difference.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Stan Shankman" <stantheman@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#BRUmVPvIHA.4916@xxxxxx
Quote:

> WLM hogging CPU
> Renders itself and XP into slow mode . . .
>
> Greetings newsgroupers,
>
> I have been using WLM for a few weeks now.
> When I first loaded and ran it, WLM brought over all of my Outlook
> Express messages and accounts - took it a long time too!
> Yet once installed, it stared out working okay however it did seem to
> run a little slow - at least by comparison to Outlook Express. I was
> starting to like WLM, and could live with the slight slowness. But in
> the past few days, things have gotten much worse.
> I am using WLM even now to post this message. So it is not entirely
> disabled, but, things are not right.
> (In fact, I just checked and right now CPU usage is normal for WLM. -
> Maybe this problem only arises when I am in the "Mail" tab. ??)
>
> Here are my symptoms:
> When I first start Windows Live Mail, it runs off and completes its
> message gathering operations okay. I can use it for a brief few
> seconds right after it first starts, but then spontaneously and
> unexpectedly it starts hogging big CPU. It is difficult for me to
> fully characterize this problem, but WLM just start eating a lot of
> CPU. I do not know what it is doing. It happens over and over, and I
> must force closed WLM if I am to use my computer. One time I left it
> run in that high-CPU-state overnight, hoping that maybe it was simply
> doing some internal housecleaning or some such thing. But in the
> morning, task manager still reported over 90% CPU usage. I cannot use
> WLM in this state. The entire computer runs at a crawl because of it,
> and I am forced to use task manager to kill WLM so I can regain
> control of my machine. (Windows XP Pro)
> And now, I am totally dependent on WLM for all my messaging needs, and
> it has created a serious difficulty for me.
>
> Also, note this:
> I have an extraordinarily large collection of messages. And I
> subscribe to quite a few newsgroups (and news servers), and have an
> extensive archive of past saves for those messages too. The bottom
> line is, I have a large data base.
> Yes, I do my backups.
> Oh, and I do not run any virus or spyware programs other than Windows
> Live One Care.
> My machine is (has been) well behaved, and I do not suspect any memory
> or other hardware problems.
> I only have problems with WLM.
>
> What must I now do to get WLM to start behaving properly?
> Thanks all,
>
> - Stan
>
> Oh oh, even as I composed this mail, WLM spontaneously started using
> big CPU. Task Manager now reports WLM at over 80%.
> I hope this message will send! And I hope I am able to read any
> replies.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-07-2008   #3 (permalink)
me
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RE: Windows Live Mail hogging CPU – renders itself and XP into slow, s



"Stan Shankman" wrote:
Quote:

> WLM hogging CPU
> Renders itself and XP into slow mode . . .
>
> Greetings newsgroupers,
>
> I have been using WLM for a few weeks now.
> When I first loaded and ran it, WLM brought over all of my Outlook Express
> messages and accounts – took it a long time too!
> Yet once installed, it stared out working okay however it did seem to run a
> little slow – at least by comparison to Outlook Express. I was starting to
> like WLM, and could live with the slight slowness. But in the past few days,
> things have gotten much worse.
> I am using WLM even now to post this message. So it is not entirely
> disabled, but, things are not right.
> (In fact, I just checked and right now CPU usage is normal for WLM. – Maybe
> this problem only arises when I am in the “Mail” tab. ??)
>
> Here are my symptoms:
> When I first start Windows Live Mail, it runs off and completes its message
> gathering operations okay. I can use it for a brief few seconds right after
> it first starts, but then spontaneously and unexpectedly it starts hogging
> big CPU. It is difficult for me to fully characterize this problem, but WLM
> just start eating a lot of CPU. I do not know what it is doing. It happens
> over and over, and I must force closed WLM if I am to use my computer. One
> time I left it run in that high-CPU-state overnight, hoping that maybe it
> was simply doing some internal housecleaning or some such thing. But in the
> morning, task manager still reported over 90% CPU usage. I cannot use WLM in
> this state. The entire computer runs at a crawl because of it, and I am
> forced to use task manager to kill WLM so I can regain control of my
> machine. (Windows XP Pro)
> And now, I am totally dependent on WLM for all my messaging needs, and it
> has created a serious difficulty for me.
>
> Also, note this:
> I have an extraordinarily large collection of messages. And I subscribe to
> quite a few newsgroups (and news servers), and have an extensive archive of
> past saves for those messages too. The bottom line is, I have a large data
> base.
> Yes, I do my backups.
> Oh, and I do not run any virus or spyware programs other than Windows Live
> One Care.
> My machine is (has been) well behaved, and I do not suspect any memory or
> other hardware problems.
> I only have problems with WLM.
>
> What must I now do to get WLM to start behaving properly?
> Thanks all,
>
> - Stan
>
> Oh oh, even as I composed this mail, WLM spontaneously started using big
> CPU. Task Manager now reports WLM at over 80%.
> I hope this message will send! And I hope I am able to read any replies.
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-07-2008   #4 (permalink)
me
Guest


 
 

RE: Windows Live Mail hogging CPU – renders itself and XP into slow, s

I also am running Windows Live Mail. It was ok in the beginning but lately,
my machine grinds to almost a complete halt and once I kill the wlm process,
it runs fine.

I likethe application, but this is killing me.

Ralph

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-07-2008   #5 (permalink)
Guest


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail hogging CPU - renders itself and XP into slow, s


"me" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:00CAE020-E49A-4F04-81DD-30E100AFD548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I also am running Windows Live Mail. It was ok in the beginning but
>lately,
> my machine grinds to almost a complete halt and once I kill the wlm
> process,
> it runs fine.
>
> I likethe application, but this is killing me.
>
> Ralph
>
How much RAM memory does that machine have? Some of the larger
programs tend to go into a heavily paging mode if you're short of memory
for their requirements.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-07-2008   #6 (permalink)
me
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Re: Windows Live Mail hogging CPU - renders itself and XP into slo

I have 1.2gig according to 'system' in control panel

"robertmiles@xxxxxx" wrote:
Quote:

>
> "me" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:00CAE020-E49A-4F04-81DD-30E100AFD548@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I also am running Windows Live Mail. It was ok in the beginning but
> >lately,
> > my machine grinds to almost a complete halt and once I kill the wlm
> > process,
> > it runs fine.
> >
> > I likethe application, but this is killing me.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> How much RAM memory does that machine have? Some of the larger
> programs tend to go into a heavily paging mode if you're short of memory
> for their requirements.
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-10-2008   #7 (permalink)
Charles
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RE: Windows Live Mail hogging CPU – renders itself and XP into slow, s



"Stan Shankman" wrote:
Quote:

> WLM hogging CPU
> Renders itself and XP into slow mode . . .
>
> Greetings newsgroupers,
>
> I have been using WLM for a few weeks now.
> When I first loaded and ran it, WLM brought over all of my Outlook Express
> messages and accounts – took it a long time too!
> Yet once installed, it stared out working okay however it did seem to run a
> little slow – at least by comparison to Outlook Express. I was starting to
> like WLM, and could live with the slight slowness. But in the past few days,
> things have gotten much worse.
> I am using WLM even now to post this message. So it is not entirely
> disabled, but, things are not right.
> (In fact, I just checked and right now CPU usage is normal for WLM. – Maybe
> this problem only arises when I am in the “Mail” tab. ??)
>
> Here are my symptoms:
> When I first start Windows Live Mail, it runs off and completes its message
> gathering operations okay. I can use it for a brief few seconds right after
> it first starts, but then spontaneously and unexpectedly it starts hogging
> big CPU. It is difficult for me to fully characterize this problem, but WLM
> just start eating a lot of CPU. I do not know what it is doing. It happens
> over and over, and I must force closed WLM if I am to use my computer. One
> time I left it run in that high-CPU-state overnight, hoping that maybe it
> was simply doing some internal housecleaning or some such thing. But in the
> morning, task manager still reported over 90% CPU usage. I cannot use WLM in
> this state. The entire computer runs at a crawl because of it, and I am
> forced to use task manager to kill WLM so I can regain control of my
> machine. (Windows XP Pro)
> And now, I am totally dependent on WLM for all my messaging needs, and it
> has created a serious difficulty for me.
>
> Also, note this:
> I have an extraordinarily large collection of messages. And I subscribe to
> quite a few newsgroups (and news servers), and have an extensive archive of
> past saves for those messages too. The bottom line is, I have a large data
> base.
> Yes, I do my backups.
> Oh, and I do not run any virus or spyware programs other than Windows Live
> One Care.
> My machine is (has been) well behaved, and I do not suspect any memory or
> other hardware problems.
> I only have problems with WLM.
>
> What must I now do to get WLM to start behaving properly?
> Thanks all,
>
> - Stan
>
> Oh oh, even as I composed this mail, WLM spontaneously started using big
> CPU. Task Manager now reports WLM at over 80%.
> I hope this message will send! And I hope I am able to read any replies.

I get the same thing. I'm posting this through the online communities
because the newsgroup support is unusable.

If I start up WLM, and hit newsgroups, then my memory consumption counts up
by about 6 meg chunks up to 450+ megs, and then sits there. I have 11
newsgroups loaded. FWIW, I'm running a 3500+ Athlon64 processor against 2
gigs of RAM and 512 megs on a video card.

I also have to disable SETI @ home, which runs in background, to even be
able to close WLM and recover.

Reproducing it is easy in my case, so I'm going to have to wait until
Microsoft fixes it.
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