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Old 06-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
kencl


 
 

Limit download size

One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size of
emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long download
time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know how to do
it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
--
kencl

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #2 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Limit download size

You do it exactly the same way you did it in OE:
Tools, Message Rules, Mail, New, select the condition: "Where the message
size is more than size." Select the action: "Do not download..."

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP


"kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:444AB50A-6CAC-4DDE-95C2-294E1C740BDB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size of
> emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long download
> time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know how to do
> it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
> --
> kencl
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #3 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: Limit download size

Windows Live Mail (WLM): Tools, Message Rules, Mail Rules, New, Size
more than xx KB, Do Not Download
(This needs to be at the top of your messages rules with any other rules
that have an action of Do Not Download or Delete From Server otherwise a
prior rule might trigger a download.)

Mail will download just the smaller ones. With OE5+/WLM you won't get
any obvious indication that there are messages not being downloaded
because of the message rules. If you've just done a Send and Receive
and then immediately do another one, you'll briefly get a display of
"Receiving List of Messages" but nothing will download if all the
messages are getting skipped. If there are no messages still on the
server, you won't see the "Receiving List of Messages" at all.

If desired, you can later increase or remove the limit to download them.
(Or change the action to Delete From Server it you are sure that you
don't want them.)

You should eventually delete them from the server if you decide you
don't want them. Otherwise your server mail box will eventually reach
its limit (set by your ISP).

With many ISPs offer a web mail interface to look at your server mail
box to decide if you want the messages and, if desired, delete them
without downloading.

Or you may be able to use Telnet if they don't offer a web mail
interface. You can find these Telnet instructions at
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...pop3telnet.htm

Or you might also be able to use http://mail2web.com or
http://www.mailstart.com for this function (if your ISP allows outside
access to their POP3 mail server). Or there are some shareware programs
that let you look at messages on the server.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:444AB50A-6CAC-4DDE-95C2-294E1C740BDB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size
> of
> emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
> download
> time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know how
> to do
> it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
> --
> kencl

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #4 (permalink)
kencl


 
 

RE: Limit download size

Thank you. That worked.

Can you tell me if I can make that apply to just one of my email accounts
and not the other?
--
kencl


"kencl" wrote:
Quote:

> One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size of
> emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long download
> time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know how to do
> it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
> --
> kencl
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #5 (permalink)
kencl


 
 

Re: Limit download size


-- When I did this before I was using Outlook or Outlook Expr. and when a
large message arrived at the server I received a notice and asked if I wanted
to download it. Unfortunately, from what you say, that is not an option with
WLM.

kencl


"Michael Santovec" wrote:
Quote:

> Windows Live Mail (WLM): Tools, Message Rules, Mail Rules, New, Size
> more than xx KB, Do Not Download
> (This needs to be at the top of your messages rules with any other rules
> that have an action of Do Not Download or Delete From Server otherwise a
> prior rule might trigger a download.)
>
> Mail will download just the smaller ones. With OE5+/WLM you won't get
> any obvious indication that there are messages not being downloaded
> because of the message rules. If you've just done a Send and Receive
> and then immediately do another one, you'll briefly get a display of
> "Receiving List of Messages" but nothing will download if all the
> messages are getting skipped. If there are no messages still on the
> server, you won't see the "Receiving List of Messages" at all.
>
> If desired, you can later increase or remove the limit to download them.
> (Or change the action to Delete From Server it you are sure that you
> don't want them.)
>
> You should eventually delete them from the server if you decide you
> don't want them. Otherwise your server mail box will eventually reach
> its limit (set by your ISP).
>
> With many ISPs offer a web mail interface to look at your server mail
> box to decide if you want the messages and, if desired, delete them
> without downloading.
>
> Or you may be able to use Telnet if they don't offer a web mail
> interface. You can find these Telnet instructions at
> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...pop3telnet.htm
>
> Or you might also be able to use http://mail2web.com or
> http://www.mailstart.com for this function (if your ISP allows outside
> access to their POP3 mail server). Or there are some shareware programs
> that let you look at messages on the server.
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:444AB50A-6CAC-4DDE-95C2-294E1C740BDB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size
> > of
> > emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
> > download
> > time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know how
> > to do
> > it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
> > --
> > kencl
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #6 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Limit download size

You can have more than one criterion in your rule:
"Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the message is from the *specified* account
*and* Where the message size is more than *size*"
etc.

How do you manage to have one of your accounts dial-up, but not the
other? How do you connect with that one?
--
Noel

"kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EBB2C3BC-ECC9-406C-9E0A-EF7BF61C2B42@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thank you. That worked.
>
> Can you tell me if I can make that apply to just one of my email
> accounts
> and not the other?
> --
> kencl
>
>
> "kencl" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the
>> size of
>> emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
>> download
>> time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know
>> how to do
>> it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
>> --
>> kencl
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #7 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Limit download size

No such notification feature in Outlook Express either.
I'm not familiar enough with Outlook to say whether it has that feature.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP


"kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B5C49AE2-3EBC-4769-BD23-8F8608B10BB0@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> -- When I did this before I was using Outlook or Outlook Expr. and when a
> large message arrived at the server I received a notice and asked if I wanted
> to download it. Unfortunately, from what you say, that is not an option with
> WLM.
>
> kencl
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Windows Live Mail (WLM): Tools, Message Rules, Mail Rules, New, Size
>> more than xx KB, Do Not Download
>> (This needs to be at the top of your messages rules with any other rules
>> that have an action of Do Not Download or Delete From Server otherwise a
>> prior rule might trigger a download.)
>>
>> Mail will download just the smaller ones. With OE5+/WLM you won't get
>> any obvious indication that there are messages not being downloaded
>> because of the message rules. If you've just done a Send and Receive
>> and then immediately do another one, you'll briefly get a display of
>> "Receiving List of Messages" but nothing will download if all the
>> messages are getting skipped. If there are no messages still on the
>> server, you won't see the "Receiving List of Messages" at all.
>>
>> If desired, you can later increase or remove the limit to download them.
>> (Or change the action to Delete From Server it you are sure that you
>> don't want them.)
>>
>> You should eventually delete them from the server if you decide you
>> don't want them. Otherwise your server mail box will eventually reach
>> its limit (set by your ISP).
>>
>> With many ISPs offer a web mail interface to look at your server mail
>> box to decide if you want the messages and, if desired, delete them
>> without downloading.
>>
>> Or you may be able to use Telnet if they don't offer a web mail
>> interface. You can find these Telnet instructions at
>> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...pop3telnet.htm
>>
>> Or you might also be able to use http://mail2web.com or
>> http://www.mailstart.com for this function (if your ISP allows outside
>> access to their POP3 mail server). Or there are some shareware programs
>> that let you look at messages on the server.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:444AB50A-6CAC-4DDE-95C2-294E1C740BDB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size
>> > of
>> > emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
>> > download
>> > time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know how
>> > to do
>> > it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
>> > --
>> > kencl
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #8 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: Limit download size

OE5+ and WLM behave exactly the same in this regard. If you were using
Office Outlook that is another matter.

I am curious about one thing.

You say:

"One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size
of emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
download time)."

E-mail accounts aren't dial-up, ISPs are. I assume that you mean that
one of your ISPs is dial-up and one or more others are broadband
connections. If you have a broadband connection, you almost certainly
can download the mail from that dial-up account via your broadband
connection. Although possible, it's extremely rare for an ISP to
require that you connect to the Internet via them in order download
mail. Sending is another matter with restrictions common, but some
workarounds often available.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B5C49AE2-3EBC-4769-BD23-8F8608B10BB0@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> -- When I did this before I was using Outlook or Outlook Expr. and
> when a
> large message arrived at the server I received a notice and asked if I
> wanted
> to download it. Unfortunately, from what you say, that is not an
> option with
> WLM.
>
> kencl
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Windows Live Mail (WLM): Tools, Message Rules, Mail Rules, New, Size
>> more than xx KB, Do Not Download
>> (This needs to be at the top of your messages rules with any other
>> rules
>> that have an action of Do Not Download or Delete From Server
>> otherwise a
>> prior rule might trigger a download.)
>>
>> Mail will download just the smaller ones. With OE5+/WLM you won't
>> get
>> any obvious indication that there are messages not being downloaded
>> because of the message rules. If you've just done a Send and Receive
>> and then immediately do another one, you'll briefly get a display of
>> "Receiving List of Messages" but nothing will download if all the
>> messages are getting skipped. If there are no messages still on the
>> server, you won't see the "Receiving List of Messages" at all.
>>
>> If desired, you can later increase or remove the limit to download
>> them.
>> (Or change the action to Delete From Server it you are sure that you
>> don't want them.)
>>
>> You should eventually delete them from the server if you decide you
>> don't want them. Otherwise your server mail box will eventually
>> reach
>> its limit (set by your ISP).
>>
>> With many ISPs offer a web mail interface to look at your server mail
>> box to decide if you want the messages and, if desired, delete them
>> without downloading.
>>
>> Or you may be able to use Telnet if they don't offer a web mail
>> interface. You can find these Telnet instructions at
>> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...pop3telnet.htm
>>
>> Or you might also be able to use http://mail2web.com or
>> http://www.mailstart.com for this function (if your ISP allows
>> outside
>> access to their POP3 mail server). Or there are some shareware
>> programs
>> that let you look at messages on the server.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:444AB50A-6CAC-4DDE-95C2-294E1C740BDB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the
>> > size
>> > of
>> > emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
>> > download
>> > time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know
>> > how
>> > to do
>> > it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
>> > --
>> > kencl
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #9 (permalink)
kencl


 
 

Re: Limit download size

You are right. I have a wideband ISP at home and a dial up at another
location where wideband is not available. When I'm home of course there is
not a problem, I can download mail from both accounts. When I'm at the
dial-up location however it is a real nuisance if someone sends me a very big
file. It can tie up the computer for an hour. If I leave it on the server I
can download it later when I'm home.

By the way, is there some way I can cancel the download process once one of
these large files starts, without it starting all over again or continuing
the next time I try to get mail?
--
kencl


"Michael Santovec" wrote:
Quote:

> OE5+ and WLM behave exactly the same in this regard. If you were using
> Office Outlook that is another matter.
>
> I am curious about one thing.
>
> You say:
>
> "One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the size
> of emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
> download time)."
>
> E-mail accounts aren't dial-up, ISPs are. I assume that you mean that
> one of your ISPs is dial-up and one or more others are broadband
> connections. If you have a broadband connection, you almost certainly
> can download the mail from that dial-up account via your broadband
> connection. Although possible, it's extremely rare for an ISP to
> require that you connect to the Internet via them in order download
> mail. Sending is another matter with restrictions common, but some
> workarounds often available.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B5C49AE2-3EBC-4769-BD23-8F8608B10BB0@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >
> > -- When I did this before I was using Outlook or Outlook Expr. and
> > when a
> > large message arrived at the server I received a notice and asked if I
> > wanted
> > to download it. Unfortunately, from what you say, that is not an
> > option with
> > WLM.
> >
> > kencl
> >
> >
> > "Michael Santovec" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Windows Live Mail (WLM): Tools, Message Rules, Mail Rules, New, Size
> >> more than xx KB, Do Not Download
> >> (This needs to be at the top of your messages rules with any other
> >> rules
> >> that have an action of Do Not Download or Delete From Server
> >> otherwise a
> >> prior rule might trigger a download.)
> >>
> >> Mail will download just the smaller ones. With OE5+/WLM you won't
> >> get
> >> any obvious indication that there are messages not being downloaded
> >> because of the message rules. If you've just done a Send and Receive
> >> and then immediately do another one, you'll briefly get a display of
> >> "Receiving List of Messages" but nothing will download if all the
> >> messages are getting skipped. If there are no messages still on the
> >> server, you won't see the "Receiving List of Messages" at all.
> >>
> >> If desired, you can later increase or remove the limit to download
> >> them.
> >> (Or change the action to Delete From Server it you are sure that you
> >> don't want them.)
> >>
> >> You should eventually delete them from the server if you decide you
> >> don't want them. Otherwise your server mail box will eventually
> >> reach
> >> its limit (set by your ISP).
> >>
> >> With many ISPs offer a web mail interface to look at your server mail
> >> box to decide if you want the messages and, if desired, delete them
> >> without downloading.
> >>
> >> Or you may be able to use Telnet if they don't offer a web mail
> >> interface. You can find these Telnet instructions at
> >> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...pop3telnet.htm
> >>
> >> Or you might also be able to use http://mail2web.com or
> >> http://www.mailstart.com for this function (if your ISP allows
> >> outside
> >> access to their POP3 mail server). Or there are some shareware
> >> programs
> >> that let you look at messages on the server.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:444AB50A-6CAC-4DDE-95C2-294E1C740BDB@xxxxxx
> >> > One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the
> >> > size
> >> > of
> >> > emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
> >> > download
> >> > time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know
> >> > how
> >> > to do
> >> > it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
> >> > --
> >> > kencl
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #10 (permalink)
kencl


 
 

Re: Limit download size

It was pointed out to me that I'm using the term "account" incorrectly. I
have a wideband ISP at one location and a dial-up at another. I'm using the
same computer at both locations (a laptop) and I retrieve mail from both
servers at both locations, so I do want the file size limitation to apply to
both accounts. What I really need is notification from the server that a
large file has not been downloaded so that I can download it later at the
wideband location. I had this capability once. It must have been when I was
using Outlook as my email program, since I'm assured that neither OE or WLV
offer the option.

kencl


"Ildhund" wrote:
Quote:

> You can have more than one criterion in your rule:
> "Apply this rule after the message arrives
> Where the message is from the *specified* account
> *and* Where the message size is more than *size*"
> etc.
>
> How do you manage to have one of your accounts dial-up, but not the
> other? How do you connect with that one?
> --
> Noel
>
> "kencl" <kencl@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:EBB2C3BC-ECC9-406C-9E0A-EF7BF61C2B42@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thank you. That worked.
> >
> > Can you tell me if I can make that apply to just one of my email
> > accounts
> > and not the other?
> > --
> > kencl
> >
> >
> > "kencl" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> One of my email accounts is dial-up and I would like to limit the
> >> size of
> >> emails which are downloaded from the server (because of the long
> >> download
> >> time). I was able to do this with Outlook Express but don't know
> >> how to do
> >> it with Windows Live Mail. Can anyone help?
> >> --
> >> kencl
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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