Vista - Help - Basic rules of using WLM

06-06-2008

I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group,
and created Message Rules, so that as the message arrive,
they automatically move on to their selected folders.

Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the
same time to make the messages 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to
make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something?

Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do
show-up as un-read, provided they were at each accounts
individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule,
WLM ignores those messages as newly arrived message.
Is there anyway I can make those messages as newly arrived
message?

Appreciate all the help and comments.

06-06-2008

Afaik, select all folders is not an option in WLM. I use Outlook 03/07 for a few other email account and that option(select all an
mark read) is not present. Its been quite some time since I used Outlook Express for email, was that 'feature' present in OE ?

I am not sure what is meant by an 'Input' file. Do you mean Inbox ?

If I add a rule to move messages from one account's Inbox(upon delivery) to a subfolder in the storage folder my Quick Views(Unread
Mail, and All Inbox) shows the correct count. In this specific case 6 messages were delievered to 3 accounts. One account was set
to move messages to a storage folder subfolder(it received 2 of the 6 messages). Quick Views showed 6 'Unread e-mail' and 4 'All
Inbox', I.e. the correct count of all the the correct inbox count.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that as the message arrive, they
> automatically move on to their selected folders.
> Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to
> make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something?
>
> Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they were at each accounts
> individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there
> anyway I can make those messages as newly arrived message?
>
> Appreciate all the help and comments.

06-06-2008

I don't understand why you need to select all of the folders.
If you are not going to read the messages going to a folder, then add Mark
as read to the move rule.
--
Ronald Sommer

"User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created
> Message Rules, so that as the message arrive, they automatically move on
> to their selected folders.
> Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time
> to make the messages 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all'
> feature? Am I missing something?
>
> Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as
> un-read, provided they were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But
> if they were moved by a message rule, WLM ignores those messages as newly
> arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as newly
> arrived message?
>
> Appreciate all the help and comments.

06-06-2008

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ex$4tE6xIHA.5288@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Afaik, select all folders is not an option in WLM. I use Outlook 03/07 for a few other email
> account and that option(select all an mark read) is not present. Its been quite some time since I
> used Outlook Express for email, was that 'feature' present in OE ?

Yes

Quote:

>
> I am not sure what is meant by an 'Input' file. Do you mean Inbox ?

Yes (As you can see, when we get old, we forget, even the names)

Quote:

>
> If I add a rule to move messages from one account's Inbox(upon delivery) to a subfolder in the
> storage folder my Quick Views(Unread Mail, and All Inbox) shows the correct count. In this
> specific case 6 messages were delievered to 3 accounts. One account was set to move messages to a
> storage folder subfolder(it received 2 of the 6 messages). Quick Views showed 6 'Unread e-mail'
> and 4 'All Inbox', I.e. the correct count of all the the correct inbox count.
>

Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick
views', 'All inbox' shows part of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3
account messages. ( I cannot set any 'message rule' to automatically move messages for the hotmail
accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message rules' to move messages to sub folders, the 'All
inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3 account. Seems like the
'message rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting.

Quote:

> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that
>> as the message arrive, they automatically move on to their selected folders.
>> Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages
>> 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something?
>>
>> Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they
>> were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM
>> ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as
>> newly arrived message?
>>
>> Appreciate all the help and comments.

>
>

06-06-2008

"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#GJVi48xIHA.1768@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I don't understand why you need to select all of the folders.
> If you are not going to read the messages going to a folder, then add Mark as read to the move
> rule.
> --
> Ronald Sommer

I have a large number of sub folders (over two hundred!), because I receive bundle of engineering
and technical papers for the library on different subjects, every day. I need a way to select all
of the folders to mark then 'read' as I did in OE. In the 'Quick views', neither 'Unread e-mail'
nor 'All inbox' do show all of the newly arrived messages for all 4 of my accounts.

Quote:

>
> "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that
>> as the message arrive, they automatically move on to their selected folders.
>> Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages
>> 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something?
>>
>> Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they
>> were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM
>> ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as
>> newly arrived message?
>>
>> Appreciate all the help and comments.

>

06-08-2008

If the Quick views counter is not accurate, it may be corrupt.
Like Steve Austin, it can be repaired.
Repairing Windows Live Mail Quick Views Counter
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!205.entry

Message rules do not function on Http(hotmail, live, and msn.com)accounts.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8BCF150C-AFF6-45FB-9322-2EF0FA2499DF@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick views', 'All inbox' shows part
> of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot set any 'message rule' to
> automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message rules' to move messages to sub
> folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3 account. Seems like the 'message
> rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting.
>

06-08-2008

Thank you so much for the Live Mail counter repairing info. I am about to
get to the registry and clean the mess. Thanks again.

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BAEF56A2-A6DA-433D-A6CD-28825A12B780@xxxxxx
| If the Quick views counter is not accurate, it may be corrupt.
| Like Steve Austin, it can be repaired.
| Repairing Windows Live Mail Quick Views Counter
| http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!205.entry
|
| Message rules do not function on Http(hotmail, live, and msn.com)accounts.
|
| --
| ...winston
| ms-mvp mail
|
|
| "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8BCF150C-AFF6-45FB-9322-2EF0FA2499DF@xxxxxx
|
| > Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick
views', 'All inbox' shows part
| > of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot
set any 'message rule' to
| > automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message
rules' to move messages to sub
| > folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3
account. Seems like the 'message
| > rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting.
| >
|

06-08-2008

WOW ! It worked. Thank you so much.

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BAEF56A2-A6DA-433D-A6CD-28825A12B780@xxxxxx
| If the Quick views counter is not accurate, it may be corrupt.
| Like Steve Austin, it can be repaired.
| Repairing Windows Live Mail Quick Views Counter
| http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!205.entry
|
| Message rules do not function on Http(hotmail, live, and msn.com)accounts.
|
| --
| ...winston
| ms-mvp mail
|
|
| "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8BCF150C-AFF6-45FB-9322-2EF0FA2499DF@xxxxxx
|
| > Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick
views', 'All inbox' shows part
| > of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot
set any 'message rule' to
| > automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message
rules' to move messages to sub
| > folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3
account. Seems like the 'message
| > rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting.
| >
|

06-10-2008

"User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:411CDE64-3B33-4A19-94A6-8377D49589C3@xxxxxx

Quote:

> "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#GJVi48xIHA.1768@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> I don't understand why you need to select all of the folders.
>> If you are not going to read the messages going to a folder,
>> then add Mark as read to the move rule.
>> --
>> Ronald Sommer

>
> I have a large number of sub folders (over two hundred!),
> because I receive bundle of engineering and technical papers
> for the library on different subjects, every day.

I don't see how this addresses Ron's point
(unless you are now vaguely implying that
changing your rules might be a lot of work.)

Quote:

> I need a way to select all of the folders to mark then 'read' as I did in OE.

Are these folders in an identifiable hierarchy?
In particular is that identification available
to you in a Find window (Ctrl-Shift-F)?

Quote:

> In the 'Quick views', neither 'Unread e-mail' nor 'All inbox'
> do show all of the newly arrived messages for all 4 of my accounts.

Of course not--you move them to a different,
unmonitored location.

What happens if before you do a receive you have
a Find window open which is set to view all unread
messages in the top node of the different location?
Then you would be able to press Ctrl-a, Ctrl-q
and mark them all "Read".

HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

06-06-2008	#1 (permalink)
User66 n/a posts	Help - Basic rules of using WLM I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that as the message arrive, they automatically move on to their selected folders. Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something? Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as newly arrived message? Appreciate all the help and comments.
My System Specs

06-06-2008	#2 (permalink)
...winston n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM Afaik, select all folders is not an option in WLM. I use Outlook 03/07 for a few other email account and that option(select all an mark read) is not present. Its been quite some time since I used Outlook Express for email, was that 'feature' present in OE ? I am not sure what is meant by an 'Input' file. Do you mean Inbox ? If I add a rule to move messages from one account's Inbox(upon delivery) to a subfolder in the storage folder my Quick Views(Unread Mail, and All Inbox) shows the correct count. In this specific case 6 messages were delievered to 3 accounts. One account was set to move messages to a storage folder subfolder(it received 2 of the 6 messages). Quick Views showed 6 'Unread e-mail' and 4 'All Inbox', I.e. the correct count of all the the correct inbox count. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx Quote: > I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that as the message arrive, they > automatically move on to their selected folders. > Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to > make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something? > > Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they were at each accounts > individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there > anyway I can make those messages as newly arrived message? > > Appreciate all the help and comments.
My System Specs

06-06-2008	#3 (permalink)
Ron Sommer n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM I don't understand why you need to select all of the folders. If you are not going to read the messages going to a folder, then add Mark as read to the move rule. -- Ronald Sommer "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx Quote: > I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created > Message Rules, so that as the message arrive, they automatically move on > to their selected folders. > Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time > to make the messages 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all' > feature? Am I missing something? > > Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as > un-read, provided they were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But > if they were moved by a message rule, WLM ignores those messages as newly > arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as newly > arrived message? > > Appreciate all the help and comments.
My System Specs

06-06-2008	#4 (permalink)
User66 n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ex$4tE6xIHA.5288@xxxxxx Quote: > Afaik, select all folders is not an option in WLM. I use Outlook 03/07 for a few other email > account and that option(select all an mark read) is not present. Its been quite some time since I > used Outlook Express for email, was that 'feature' present in OE ? Yes Quote: > > I am not sure what is meant by an 'Input' file. Do you mean Inbox ? Yes (As you can see, when we get old, we forget, even the names) Quote: > > If I add a rule to move messages from one account's Inbox(upon delivery) to a subfolder in the > storage folder my Quick Views(Unread Mail, and All Inbox) shows the correct count. In this > specific case 6 messages were delievered to 3 accounts. One account was set to move messages to a > storage folder subfolder(it received 2 of the 6 messages). Quick Views showed 6 'Unread e-mail' > and 4 'All Inbox', I.e. the correct count of all the the correct inbox count. > Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick views', 'All inbox' shows part of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot set any 'message rule' to automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message rules' to move messages to sub folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3 account. Seems like the 'message rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting. Quote: > -- > ...winston > ms-mvp mail > > > "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx Quote: >> I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that >> as the message arrive, they automatically move on to their selected folders. >> Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages >> 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something? >> >> Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they >> were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM >> ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as >> newly arrived message? >> >> Appreciate all the help and comments. > >
My System Specs

06-06-2008	#5 (permalink)
User66 n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#GJVi48xIHA.1768@xxxxxx Quote: > I don't understand why you need to select all of the folders. > If you are not going to read the messages going to a folder, then add Mark as read to the move > rule. > -- > Ronald Sommer I have a large number of sub folders (over two hundred!), because I receive bundle of engineering and technical papers for the library on different subjects, every day. I need a way to select all of the folders to mark then 'read' as I did in OE. In the 'Quick views', neither 'Unread e-mail' nor 'All inbox' do show all of the newly arrived messages for all 4 of my accounts. Quote: > > "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:07E34F46-E987-48D9-8D40-9EFDE321F418@xxxxxx Quote: >> I have created some sub-folders under 'Storage Folders' group, and created Message Rules, so that >> as the message arrive, they automatically move on to their selected folders. >> Here is my problem - I cannot select all of these folders at the same time to make the messages >> 'read'. Why did WLM forgot to make this 'select all' feature? Am I missing something? >> >> Further, under 'Quick views', all of the newly arrived mails do show-up as un-read, provided they >> were at each accounts individual 'Input' file. But if they were moved by a message rule, WLM >> ignores those messages as newly arrived message. Is there anyway I can make those messages as >> newly arrived message? >> >> Appreciate all the help and comments. >
My System Specs

06-08-2008	#6 (permalink)
...winston n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM If the Quick views counter is not accurate, it may be corrupt. Like Steve Austin, it can be repaired. Repairing Windows Live Mail Quick Views Counter http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!205.entry Message rules do not function on Http(hotmail, live, and msn.com)accounts. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8BCF150C-AFF6-45FB-9322-2EF0FA2499DF@xxxxxx Quote: > Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick views', 'All inbox' shows part > of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot set any 'message rule' to > automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message rules' to move messages to sub > folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3 account. Seems like the 'message > rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting. >
My System Specs

06-08-2008	#7 (permalink)
User66 n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM Thank you so much for the Live Mail counter repairing info. I am about to get to the registry and clean the mess. Thanks again. "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BAEF56A2-A6DA-433D-A6CD-28825A12B780@xxxxxx \| If the Quick views counter is not accurate, it may be corrupt. \| Like Steve Austin, it can be repaired. \| Repairing Windows Live Mail Quick Views Counter \| http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!205.entry \| \| Message rules do not function on Http(hotmail, live, and msn.com)accounts. \| \| -- \| ...winston \| ms-mvp mail \| \| \| "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8BCF150C-AFF6-45FB-9322-2EF0FA2499DF@xxxxxx \| \| > Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick views', 'All inbox' shows part \| > of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot set any 'message rule' to \| > automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message rules' to move messages to sub \| > folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3 account. Seems like the 'message \| > rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting. \| > \|
My System Specs

06-08-2008	#8 (permalink)
User66 n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM WOW ! It worked. Thank you so much. "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BAEF56A2-A6DA-433D-A6CD-28825A12B780@xxxxxx \| If the Quick views counter is not accurate, it may be corrupt. \| Like Steve Austin, it can be repaired. \| Repairing Windows Live Mail Quick Views Counter \| http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!205.entry \| \| Message rules do not function on Http(hotmail, live, and msn.com)accounts. \| \| -- \| ...winston \| ms-mvp mail \| \| \| "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8BCF150C-AFF6-45FB-9322-2EF0FA2499DF@xxxxxx \| \| > Not always. I have 4 accounts. Two Hotmail and two POP3 accounts. As mail arrive, under 'Quick views', 'All inbox' shows part \| > of newly arrived messages for Hotmail accounts and part of the POP3 account messages. ( I cannot set any 'message rule' to \| > automatically move messages for the hotmail accounts). Since my POP3 account has mail 'message rules' to move messages to sub \| > folders, the 'All inbox' does not always count or show all of the mail arrived in the POP3 account. Seems like the 'message \| > rules' messes up the 'All inbox' counting. \| > \|
My System Specs

06-10-2008	#9 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle n/a posts	Re: Help - Basic rules of using WLM "User66" <user66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:411CDE64-3B33-4A19-94A6-8377D49589C3@xxxxxx Quote: > "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:#GJVi48xIHA.1768@xxxxxx Quote: >> I don't understand why you need to select all of the folders. >> If you are not going to read the messages going to a folder, >> then add Mark as read to the move rule. >> -- >> Ronald Sommer > > I have a large number of sub folders (over two hundred!), > because I receive bundle of engineering and technical papers > for the library on different subjects, every day. I don't see how this addresses Ron's point (unless you are now vaguely implying that changing your rules might be a lot of work.) Quote: > I need a way to select all of the folders to mark then 'read' as I did in OE. Are these folders in an identifiable hierarchy? In particular is that identification available to you in a Find window (Ctrl-Shift-F)? Quote: > In the 'Quick views', neither 'Unread e-mail' nor 'All inbox' > do show all of the newly arrived messages for all 4 of my accounts. Of course not--you move them to a different, unmonitored location. What happens if before you do a receive you have a Find window open which is set to view all unread messages in the top node of the different location? Then you would be able to press Ctrl-a, Ctrl-q and mark them all "Read". HTH Robert Aldwinckle ---
My System Specs

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