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06-08-2008
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| | Windows Live Mail and Photos How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. |
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06-08-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx Quote: > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are seeing Bill |
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06-08-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. Biggles -- Always looking to learn "Bill" wrote: Quote: > > > "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx Quote: > > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. > I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an > attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are > seeing > > Bill > > > |
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06-08-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx Quote: > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. > Biggles > -- > Always looking to learn > > > "Bill" wrote: > Quote: >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx Quote: >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are >> seeing >> >> Bill >> >> >> |
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06-08-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email. In my old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the attached jpg file. However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending the picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and the email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense though). Regards, Biggles -- Always looking to learn "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: Quote: > Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the > viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message. > > -- > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP > > > "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx Quote: > > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been > > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has > > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The > > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is > > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. > > Biggles > > -- > > Always looking to learn > > > > > > "Bill" wrote: > > Quote: > >> > >> > >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx > >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. > >> > >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an > >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are > >> seeing > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> |
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06-08-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos There is a considerable amount of overhead involved with encoding the 8-bit data file into the 7-bit attachment supported by the mail protocol. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1355956F-9907-48EB-BA5F-2301FBB7EC26@xxxxxx Quote: > Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email. In my > old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the attached > jpg file. > However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending the > picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and the > email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense though). > Regards, > Biggles > -- > Always looking to learn > > > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: > Quote: >> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the >> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message. >> >> -- >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx Quote: >> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been >> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has >> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The >> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is >> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. >> > Biggles >> > -- >> > Always looking to learn >> > >> > >> > "Bill" wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx >> >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the >> >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always >> >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. >> >> >> >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an >> >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are >> >> seeing >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> |
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06-08-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos Encoding overhead adds about 40%. So your message size is right on target. I don't know how Outlook managed to send a picture without the overhead since it uses the same Base64 encoding. Unless perhaps Outlook was automatically reducing the image quality/size before attaching. For some additional information, see: Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm -- Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1355956F-9907-48EB-BA5F-2301FBB7EC26@xxxxxx Quote: > Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email. > In my > old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the > attached > jpg file. > However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending > the > picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and > the > email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense > though). > Regards, > Biggles > -- > Always looking to learn > > > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: > Quote: >> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the >> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent >> message. >> >> -- >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx Quote: >> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to >> > have been >> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent >> > Items WLM has >> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the >> > attachment. The >> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. >> > The email is >> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. >> > Biggles >> > -- >> > Always looking to learn >> > >> > >> > "Bill" wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx >> >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the >> >> > body of the >> >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but >> >> > WLM always >> >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of >> >> > the email. >> >> >> >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as >> >> an >> >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what >> >> you are >> >> seeing >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> |
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06-09-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos Thank you all for your replies Best regards, Biggles -- Always looking to learn "Michael Santovec" wrote: Quote: > Encoding overhead adds about 40%. So your message size is right on > target. > > I don't know how Outlook managed to send a picture without the overhead > since it uses the same Base64 encoding. Unless perhaps Outlook was > automatically reducing the image quality/size before attaching. > > For some additional information, see: > Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial > http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm > > > -- > > Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm > > > > "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:1355956F-9907-48EB-BA5F-2301FBB7EC26@xxxxxx Quote: > > Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email. > > In my > > old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the > > attached > > jpg file. > > However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending > > the > > picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and > > the > > email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense > > though). > > Regards, > > Biggles > > -- > > Always looking to learn > > > > > > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: > > Quote: > >> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the > >> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent > >> message. > >> > >> -- > >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP > >> > >> > >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx > >> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to > >> > have been > >> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent > >> > Items WLM has > >> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the > >> > attachment. The > >> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. > >> > The email is > >> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. > >> > Biggles > >> > -- > >> > Always looking to learn > >> > > >> > > >> > "Bill" wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx > >> >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the > >> >> > body of the > >> >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but > >> >> > WLM always > >> >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of > >> >> > the email. > >> >> > >> >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as > >> >> an > >> >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what > >> >> you are > >> >> seeing > >> >> > >> >> Bill > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > |
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06-09-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos Ah yes you are correct. I thought by embedded you meant that reduced size that can be inserted from the add photos feature. It does appear in the sent message body in full size. Bill "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx Quote: > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have > been > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM > has > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. > The > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email > is > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. > Biggles > -- > Always looking to learn > > > "Bill" wrote: > Quote: >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx Quote: >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of >> > the >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM >> > always >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the >> > email. >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are >> seeing >> >> Bill >> >> >> |
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07-18-2008
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| | Re: Windows Live Mail and Photos Gary: I have a problem with one of my friends that sends me emails ( mostly forwarded pics and jokes ) without a .jpg or .gif attachment but all that shows up is a outline box where the photo should be and a big red X. Is this a "feature of the viewing email program" (mine being Windows Live Mail Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)? Is this a setting with my WLM or a problem on his end with his email client? Thanks "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: Quote: > Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the > viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message. > > -- > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP > > > "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx Quote: > > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been > > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has > > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The > > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is > > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. > > Biggles > > -- > > Always looking to learn > > > > > > "Bill" wrote: > > Quote: > >> > >> > >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx > >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. > >> > >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an > >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are > >> seeing > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> |
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