Windows Live Mail and Photos

06-08-2008

How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the
message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always
displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email.

06-08-2008

"Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	> How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email.

I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an
attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are
seeing

Bill

06-08-2008

I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been
embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has
embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The
recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is
much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent.
Biggles
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Always looking to learn

"Bill" wrote:

Quote:

>
>
> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email.

>
> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an
> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are
> seeing
>
> Bill
>
>
>

06-08-2008

Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the
viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP

"Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been
> embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has
> embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The
> recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is
> much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent.
> Biggles
> --
> Always looking to learn
>
>
> "Bill" wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>>
>> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email.

>>
>> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an
>> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are
>> seeing
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>

06-08-2008

Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email. In my
old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the attached
jpg file.
However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending the
picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and the
email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense though).
Regards,
Biggles
--
Always looking to learn

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

Quote:

> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the
> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
>
>
> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been
> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has
> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The
> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is
> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent.
> > Biggles
> > --
> > Always looking to learn
> >
> >
> > "Bill" wrote:
> >

	Quote:
	> >> > >> > >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx > >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. > >> > >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an > >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are > >> seeing > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >>

>

06-08-2008

There is a considerable amount of overhead involved with encoding the
8-bit data file into the 7-bit attachment supported by the mail protocol.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP

"Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1355956F-9907-48EB-BA5F-2301FBB7EC26@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email. In my
> old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the attached
> jpg file.
> However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending the
> picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and the
> email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense though).
> Regards,
> Biggles
> --
> Always looking to learn
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the
>> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
>>
>>
>> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been >> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has >> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The >> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is >> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. >> > Biggles >> > -- >> > Always looking to learn >> > >> > >> > "Bill" wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx >> >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the >> >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always >> >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. >> >> >> >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an >> >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are >> >> seeing >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >>

>>

06-08-2008

Encoding overhead adds about 40%. So your message size is right on
target.

I don't know how Outlook managed to send a picture without the overhead
since it uses the same Base64 encoding. Unless perhaps Outlook was
automatically reducing the image quality/size before attaching.

For some additional information, see:
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1355956F-9907-48EB-BA5F-2301FBB7EC26@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email.
> In my
> old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the
> attached
> jpg file.
> However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending
> the
> picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and
> the
> email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense
> though).
> Regards,
> Biggles
> --
> Always looking to learn
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the
>> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent
>> message.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
>>
>>
>> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to >> > have been >> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent >> > Items WLM has >> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the >> > attachment. The >> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. >> > The email is >> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. >> > Biggles >> > -- >> > Always looking to learn >> > >> > >> > "Bill" wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx >> >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the >> >> > body of the >> >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but >> >> > WLM always >> >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of >> >> > the email. >> >> >> >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as >> >> an >> >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what >> >> you are >> >> seeing >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >>

>>

06-09-2008

Thank you all for your replies
Best regards,
Biggles
--
Always looking to learn

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Quote:

> Encoding overhead adds about 40%. So your message size is right on
> target.
>
> I don't know how Outlook managed to send a picture without the overhead
> since it uses the same Base64 encoding. Unless perhaps Outlook was
> automatically reducing the image quality/size before attaching.
>
> For some additional information, see:
> Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1355956F-9907-48EB-BA5F-2301FBB7EC26@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > Gary, Then please explain why a 1.47Mb picture becomes a 2.06Mb email.
> > In my
> > old Outlook the email size was approximately the same size as the
> > attached
> > jpg file.
> > However, you appear to be correct because I have just tried sending
> > the
> > picture renamed to .old, the picture did not display in the email and
> > the
> > email size was still 2.06Mb (the email size still doesn't make sense
> > though).
> > Regards,
> > Biggles
> > --
> > Always looking to learn
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >

	Quote:
	> >> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the > >> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent > >> message. > >> > >> -- > >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP > >> > >> > >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx > >> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to > >> > have been > >> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent > >> > Items WLM has > >> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the > >> > attachment. The > >> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. > >> > The email is > >> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent. > >> > Biggles > >> > -- > >> > Always looking to learn > >> > > >> > > >> > "Bill" wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx > >> >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the > >> >> > body of the > >> >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but > >> >> > WLM always > >> >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of > >> >> > the email. > >> >> > >> >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as > >> >> an > >> >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what > >> >> you are > >> >> seeing > >> >> > >> >> Bill > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>

>
>

06-09-2008

Ah yes you are correct. I thought by embedded you meant that reduced size
that can be inserted from the add photos feature.

It does appear in the sent message body in full size.

Bill

"Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have
> been
> embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM
> has
> embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment.
> The
> recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email
> is
> much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent.
> Biggles
> --
> Always looking to learn
>
>
> "Bill" wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>>
>> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of >> > the >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM >> > always >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the >> > email.

>>
>> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an
>> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are
>> seeing
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>

07-18-2008

Gary:

I have a problem with one of my friends that sends me emails ( mostly
forwarded pics and jokes ) without a .jpg or .gif attachment but all that
shows up is a outline box where the photo should be and a big red X. Is this
a "feature of the viewing email program" (mine being Windows Live Mail
Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)?

Is this a setting with my WLM or a problem on his end with his email client?

Thanks

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

Quote:

> Whether a JPG attachment is displayed or not is a feature of the
> viewing email program. It does not increase the size of the sent message.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP
>
>
> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:540C9951-952D-464B-8115-A027B7010F4B@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > I've tried that, it goes in as an attachment (without appearing to have been
> > embedded) and I send the email. When I look at it in the Sent Items WLM has
> > embedded the photo into the message as well as retaining the attachment. The
> > recipient also sees it in the message as well as an attachment. The email is
> > much bigger than just the jpg file that was sent.
> > Biggles
> > --
> > Always looking to learn
> >
> >
> > "Bill" wrote:
> >

	Quote:
	> >> > >> > >> "Biggles" <Biggles@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:CF5D6298-4440-469D-B127-B741DBA8070C@xxxxxx > >> > How do I stop Windows Live Mail from embedding a photo in the body of the > >> > message. I just want to send the jpg file as an attachment but WLM always > >> > displays the picture in the message which increases the size of the email. > >> > >> I drag and drop the picture into the email window and it goes as an > >> attachment. I think if you use the insert feature it does what you are > >> seeing > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >>

>

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