Unable to start

06-18-2008

After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the
following messages

Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883

followed by

WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be
initialised.

I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running using my
dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt.
When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing
numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time.

I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64.
I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors.

06-19-2008

Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there any way
to convert my backup file, which I stupidly assumed I could import on a
reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other usable format. I
know now that I should have saved it in a generic format, but, too late now.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the > following messages > > Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 > > followed by > > WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be > initialised. > > I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running using > my > dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. > When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing > numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. > > I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. > I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >

06-20-2008

Hi John

I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to ask
couple of questions

1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router, ethernet/USB
etc
2. what firewall software are you using
3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc
4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk.

--
TUT

"Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let it dry
and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there any
> way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly assumed I could import on
> a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other usable format.
> I know now that I should have saved it in a generic format, but, too late
> now.
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the >> following messages >> >> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >> >> followed by >> >> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >> initialised. >> >> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running using >> my >> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing >> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >> >> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>

>

06-23-2008

1. Modem(Satellite) Ethernet
2. Windows Vista Firewall I have added WLMD to the firewall allow
(exceptions) and have turned off the firewall during execution. No
success - same messages
3. None
4. Vista was installed from the original media (DVD) and SP1 has not been
installed yet (downloaded but not installed)

"Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:g6GdncBGO9oizMHVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi John
>
> I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to ask
> couple of questions
>
> 1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router,
> ethernet/USB etc
> 2. what firewall software are you using
> 3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc
> 4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk.
>
> --
> TUT
>
> "Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let it
> dry
> and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa
>
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there any
>> way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly assumed I could import on
>> a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other usable format.
>> I know now that I should have saved it in a generic format, but, too late
>> now.
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the >>> following messages >>> >>> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >>> >>> followed by >>> >>> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >>> initialised. >>> >>> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running >>> using my >>> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >>> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing >>> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >>> >>> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >>> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>>

>>

06-23-2008

John,
Is the WLM installation file on your machine ? See this article on how to find the hidden msi file.
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!176.entry

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e3$aV8S1IHA.3860@xxxxxx

Quote:

> 1. Modem(Satellite) Ethernet
> 2. Windows Vista Firewall I have added WLMD to the firewall allow (exceptions) and have turned off the firewall during
> execution. No success - same messages
> 3. None
> 4. Vista was installed from the original media (DVD) and SP1 has not been installed yet (downloaded but not installed)
>
>
> "Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:g6GdncBGO9oizMHVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Hi John
>>
>> I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to ask couple of questions
>>
>> 1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router, ethernet/USB etc
>> 2. what firewall software are you using
>> 3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc
>> 4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk.
>>
>> --
>> TUT
>>
>> "Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let it dry
>> and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there any way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly >>> assumed I could import on a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other usable format. I know now that I should >>> have saved it in a generic format, but, too late now. >>> >>> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx >>>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the >>>> following messages >>>> >>>> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >>>> >>>> followed by >>>> >>>> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >>>> initialised. >>>> >>>> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running using my >>>> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >>>> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing >>>> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >>>> >>>> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >>>> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>>> >>>

>

06-23-2008

Thanks, but I am trying to install and RUN Windows Live Mail DESKTOP. I
have no problems with WLM except having to sign into each account
separately.

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:297934DF-D559-49D4-BAB0-09E5C77CDB69@xxxxxx

Quote:

> John,
> Is the WLM installation file on your machine ? See this article on how to
> find the hidden msi file.
>
> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!176.entry
>
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e3$aV8S1IHA.3860@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> 1. Modem(Satellite) Ethernet
>> 2. Windows Vista Firewall I have added WLMD to the firewall allow
>> (exceptions) and have turned off the firewall during execution. No
>> success - same messages
>> 3. None
>> 4. Vista was installed from the original media (DVD) and SP1 has not
>> been installed yet (downloaded but not installed)
>>
>>
>> "Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:g6GdncBGO9oizMHVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Hi John >>> >>> I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to ask >>> couple of questions >>> >>> 1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router, >>> ethernet/USB etc >>> 2. what firewall software are you using >>> 3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc >>> 4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk. >>> >>> -- >>> TUT >>> >>> "Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let it >>> dry >>> and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa >>> >>> >>> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx >>>> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there >>>> any way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly assumed I could >>>> import on a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other >>>> usable format. I know now that I should have saved it in a generic >>>> format, but, too late now. >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx >>>>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in >>>>> the >>>>> following messages >>>>> >>>>> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >>>>> >>>>> followed by >>>>> >>>>> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >>>>> initialised. >>>>> >>>>> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running >>>>> using my >>>>> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >>>>> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after >>>>> failing >>>>> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >>>>> >>>>> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >>>>> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>>>> >>>>

>>

>

06-23-2008

Which WLM? Windows Live Messenger, or the program discussed
in this newsgroup, which used to be called Windows Live Mail Desktop
but the last few versions have been called Windows Live Mail instead,
even though that makes it hard to find a good short abbreviation for it?

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uvsm77V1IHA.416@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Thanks, but I am trying to install and RUN Windows Live Mail DESKTOP. I
> have no problems with WLM except having to sign into each account
> separately.
>
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:297934DF-D559-49D4-BAB0-09E5C77CDB69@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> John,
>> Is the WLM installation file on your machine ? See this article on how
>> to find the hidden msi file.
>>
>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!176.entry
>>
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e3$aV8S1IHA.3860@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> 1. Modem(Satellite) Ethernet >>> 2. Windows Vista Firewall I have added WLMD to the firewall allow >>> (exceptions) and have turned off the firewall during execution. No >>> success - same messages >>> 3. None >>> 4. Vista was installed from the original media (DVD) and SP1 has not >>> been installed yet (downloaded but not installed) >>> >>> >>> "Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:g6GdncBGO9oizMHVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@xxxxxx >>>> Hi John >>>> >>>> I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to >>>> ask couple of questions >>>> >>>> 1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router, >>>> ethernet/USB etc >>>> 2. what firewall software are you using >>>> 3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc >>>> 4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> TUT >>>> >>>> "Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let >>>> it dry >>>> and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx >>>>> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there >>>>> any way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly assumed I could >>>>> import on a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other >>>>> usable format. I know now that I should have saved it in a generic >>>>> format, but, too late now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>>> news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx >>>>>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in >>>>>> the >>>>>> following messages >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >>>>>> >>>>>> followed by >>>>>> >>>>>> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >>>>>> initialised. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running >>>>>> using my >>>>>> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >>>>>> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after >>>>>> failing >>>>>> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >>>>>> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>

>>

>

06-23-2008

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

Error messages say Windows Live Mail Desktop

<robertmiles@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:udlo7JW1IHA.524@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Which WLM? Windows Live Messenger, or the program discussed
> in this newsgroup, which used to be called Windows Live Mail Desktop
> but the last few versions have been called Windows Live Mail instead,
> even though that makes it hard to find a good short abbreviation for it?
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uvsm77V1IHA.416@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Thanks, but I am trying to install and RUN Windows Live Mail DESKTOP. I
>> have no problems with WLM except having to sign into each account
>> separately.
>>
>>
>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:297934DF-D559-49D4-BAB0-09E5C77CDB69@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> John, >>> Is the WLM installation file on your machine ? See this article on how >>> to find the hidden msi file. >>> >>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!176.entry >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ...winston >>> ms-mvp mail >>> >>> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:e3$aV8S1IHA.3860@xxxxxx >>>> 1. Modem(Satellite) Ethernet >>>> 2. Windows Vista Firewall I have added WLMD to the firewall allow >>>> (exceptions) and have turned off the firewall during execution. No >>>> success - same messages >>>> 3. None >>>> 4. Vista was installed from the original media (DVD) and SP1 has not >>>> been installed yet (downloaded but not installed) >>>> >>>> >>>> "Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:g6GdncBGO9oizMHVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@xxxxxx >>>>> Hi John >>>>> >>>>> I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to >>>>> ask couple of questions >>>>> >>>>> 1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router, >>>>> ethernet/USB etc >>>>> 2. what firewall software are you using >>>>> 3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc >>>>> 4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> TUT >>>>> >>>>> "Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let >>>>> it dry >>>>> and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>>> news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx >>>>>> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there >>>>>> any way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly assumed I could >>>>>> import on a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other >>>>>> usable format. I know now that I should have saved it in a generic >>>>>> format, but, too late now. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx >>>>>>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> following messages >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> followed by >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >>>>>>> initialised. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running >>>>>>> using my >>>>>>> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >>>>>>> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after >>>>>>> failing >>>>>>> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >>>>>>> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>

>>

>
>

06-23-2008

Windows Live Mail Desktop(WLMd) is obsolete..the current version is Windows Live Mail(WLM), thus the question if the Windows Live
Mail msi
installation file exists on your machine and the link to determine same.

To remove a problem WLM or WLMd installation see
The 'Complete' Uninstall/Reinstall Method For Windows Live Mail
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!226.entry

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uvsm77V1IHA.416@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Thanks, but I am trying to install and RUN Windows Live Mail DESKTOP. I have no problems with WLM except having to sign into
> each account separately.
>
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:297934DF-D559-49D4-BAB0-09E5C77CDB69@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> John,
>> Is the WLM installation file on your machine ? See this article on how to find the hidden msi file.
>>
>> http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!176.entry
>>
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e3$aV8S1IHA.3860@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> 1. Modem(Satellite) Ethernet >>> 2. Windows Vista Firewall I have added WLMD to the firewall allow (exceptions) and have turned off the firewall during >>> execution. No success - same messages >>> 3. None >>> 4. Vista was installed from the original media (DVD) and SP1 has not been installed yet (downloaded but not installed) >>> >>> >>> "Urbane.Tiger" <viking.warrior@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:g6GdncBGO9oizMHVnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@xxxxxx >>>> Hi John >>>> >>>> I think we are scratching out heads on this, well I am, I'd like to ask couple of questions >>>> >>>> 1. what is the nature of your physical DSL link - modem/router, ethernet/USB etc >>>> 2. what firewall software are you using >>>> 3. are there any spam catchers such as MailWasher, Cactus etc >>>> 4 Did you reinstall Vista from original media or a Recovery Disk. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> TUT >>>> >>>> "Dislodging a green nut from it's shell is almost impossible, but let it dry >>>> and the lightest tap will do it." -- Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eYpA8Qi0IHA.3968@xxxxxx >>>>> Well, if there is no way to get this program to initialise, is there any way to convert my backup file, which I stupidly >>>>> assumed I could import on a reinstalled system, to Windows Mail format or some other usable format. I know now that I should >>>>> have saved it in a generic format, but, too late now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uyOsoFT0IHA.1628@xxxxxx >>>>>> After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the >>>>>> following messages >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 >>>>>> >>>>>> followed by >>>>>> >>>>>> WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be >>>>>> initialised. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running using my >>>>>> dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. >>>>>> When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing >>>>>> numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. >>>>>> I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>

>>

>

06-18-2008	#1 (permalink)
John Barnes Guest n/a posts	Unable to start After the install, the first attemp to launch WLM desktop results in the following messages Starting for the first time requires an online connection 0x80048883 followed by WLM desktop could not be started because msmail.dll could not be initialised. I am on a dsl line full time, and did try disconnecting and running using my dial-up account. No luck. Did reboot between each attempt. When I installed last year it did install with the dial-up after failing numerous times on the dsl connection. No luck this time. I am using Windows Vista Ultimate64. I needed to reinstall Vista due to unrepairable errors.
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