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Old 06-20-2008   #1 (permalink)
cmsix
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Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa Ultimate
x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail going and after killing
UAC so I could think without having to click something every minute I was
able to try importing my Outlook Express message store into Windows Mail.
I'm trying it over the network.

When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook
Express folder at the end of that long path but the Import app for Windows
Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can look via
the network(a workgroup type) and see the files but the import app doesn't
see a thing.

What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.

I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the
wizard still can't find the message store files. I did notice one thing that
looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It was able
to import the messages with no problems by the way). The Windows Mail wizard
never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook Express wizard
did. Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can import messages with
no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't seem to be able to.

cmsix


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Old 06-20-2008   #2 (permalink)
...winston
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Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

Windows Mail can import OE messages.
- Vista's Windows Mail has a bug....ensure that when browsing to OE's store that Windows Mail doesn't insert a duplicate folder
name at the end of the path.
e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\<your windows logon id>\Local Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{6FD910CC-5BD6-423E-BA5E-CFBB2B006F15}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Outlook Express
****Note the duplicate Outlook Express at the end**** remove it

Also it might be appropriate in Vista to leave UAC enabled and approve the prompts to UAC when importing to your permission
related Vista profile.

For future Windows Mail questions since this forum is for Windows Live Mail[WLM] an alternate email client to OE(Xp) and Windows
Mail(WM, Vista) consider posting to the appropriate newsgroup(see links below)

Windows Mail Newsgroup
=====================
Nttp:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail

Web-interface: Http
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ows.vista.mail

Good luck!
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eDdcFxp0IHA.1628@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa Ultimate x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail
> going and after killing UAC so I could think without having to click something every minute I was able to try importing my
> Outlook Express message store into Windows Mail. I'm trying it over the network.
>
> When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook Express folder at the end of that long path but the
> Import app for Windows Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can look via the network(a workgroup type)
> and see the files but the import app doesn't see a thing.
>
> What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.
>
> I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the wizard still can't find the message store files. I did
> notice one thing that looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It was able to import the messages with no
> problems by the way). The Windows Mail wizard never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook Express wizard did.
> Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can import messages with no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't seem to
> be able to.
>
> cmsix
>
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Old 06-20-2008   #3 (permalink)
R. C. White
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Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

Hi, cmsix.

Yep! I had exactly the same problem when I tried importing from OE to WM
(over a year ago). I was stuck at the crossroads of WM and UAC. I lost
count of how many times WM told me there were NO messages in that OE folder.
But good old Dir in Command Prompt had no trouble in seeing them.

Since I'm just one guy with one computer and no network, I had never had to
learn anything about "permissions" and "ownership". But Vista forced me to
learn.

After banging my head against the "no such files in that folder" message
several times, I finally found that I had to give myself permission to see
into that OE folder. I've forgotten how to do it (you probably already know
how), but I finally took ownership of that whole OE Store Folder tree.
After that, WM could easily see those files and import them. Other
techniques include using other tools (such as Windows Explorer) to create a
new folder that you own, copy the old OE .dbx files into it, then let WM
import them from there.

And, as Winston said, THIS newsgroup is for Windows LIVE Mail, which I like
better than the default Windows Mail. To get your own free copy, go to:
Windows Live Mail
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

In the meantime, peer-to-peer support for the original WM is at the other
NG, at the links Winston gave you. When you install WLM, WM will seem to
disappear, but it's still there; only its shortcuts are deleted and you can
still run it from the All Programs menu. In fact, you can run both WM and
WLM side by side, since they will keep their Message Stores separate. A
common practice is to run them both for a while, setting both to leave
messages on the server for a couple of weeks, while you decide which one to
use in the future.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eDdcFxp0IHA.1628@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa
> Ultimate x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail going and after
> killing UAC so I could think without having to click something every
> minute I was able to try importing my Outlook Express message store into
> Windows Mail. I'm trying it over the network.
>
> When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook
> Express folder at the end of that long path but the Import app for Windows
> Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can look via
> the network(a workgroup type) and see the files but the import app doesn't
> see a thing.
>
> What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.
>
> I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the
> wizard still can't find the message store files. I did notice one thing
> that looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It
> was able to import the messages with no problems by the way). The Windows
> Mail wizard never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook
> Express wizard did. Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can
> import messages with no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't seem
> to be able to.
>
> cmsix
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-20-2008   #4 (permalink)
Jaclyn
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Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

Can I import Outlook emails to Wndows Mail/Vista?
--
Jaclyn


"...winston" wrote:
Quote:

> Windows Mail can import OE messages.
> - Vista's Windows Mail has a bug....ensure that when browsing to OE's store that Windows Mail doesn't insert a duplicate folder
> name at the end of the path.
> e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\<your windows logon id>\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Identities\{6FD910CC-5BD6-423E-BA5E-CFBB2B006F15}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Outlook Express
> ****Note the duplicate Outlook Express at the end**** remove it
>
> Also it might be appropriate in Vista to leave UAC enabled and approve the prompts to UAC when importing to your permission
> related Vista profile.
>
> For future Windows Mail questions since this forum is for Windows Live Mail[WLM] an alternate email client to OE(Xp) and Windows
> Mail(WM, Vista) consider posting to the appropriate newsgroup(see links below)
>
> Windows Mail Newsgroup
> =====================
> Nttp:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> Web-interface: Http
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ows.vista.mail
>
> Good luck!
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eDdcFxp0IHA.1628@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa Ultimate x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail
> > going and after killing UAC so I could think without having to click something every minute I was able to try importing my
> > Outlook Express message store into Windows Mail. I'm trying it over the network.
> >
> > When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook Express folder at the end of that long path but the
> > Import app for Windows Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can look via the network(a workgroup type)
> > and see the files but the import app doesn't see a thing.
> >
> > What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.
> >
> > I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the wizard still can't find the message store files. I did
> > notice one thing that looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It was able to import the messages with no
> > problems by the way). The Windows Mail wizard never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook Express wizard did.
> > Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can import messages with no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't seem to
> > be able to.
> >
> > cmsix
> >
>
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Old 06-20-2008   #5 (permalink)
Guest


 

Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

To Windows Mail, yes, but often not directly. More details posted
about once a day in newsgroup:

microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

"Jaclyn" <Jaclyn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ACA73236-C288-48E6-B9E4-31EFBB70B14C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Can I import Outlook emails to Wndows Mail/Vista?
> --
> Jaclyn
>
>
> "...winston" wrote:
[snip]


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Old 06-20-2008   #6 (permalink)
cmsix
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Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail


"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:49DCCB9A-CEAF-4542-A9C4-5653987BCCF7@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Windows Mail can import OE messages.
> - Vista's Windows Mail has a bug....ensure that when browsing to OE's
> store that Windows Mail doesn't insert a duplicate folder name at the end
> of the path.
> e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\<your windows logon id>\Local
> Settings\Application
> Data\Identities\{6FD910CC-5BD6-423E-BA5E-CFBB2B006F15}\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express\Outlook Express
> ****Note the duplicate Outlook Express at the end**** remove it
>
> Also it might be appropriate in Vista to leave UAC enabled and approve the
> prompts to UAC when importing to your permission related Vista profile.
>
> For future Windows Mail questions since this forum is for Windows Live
> Mail[WLM] an alternate email client to OE(Xp) and Windows Mail(WM, Vista)
> consider posting to the appropriate newsgroup(see links below)
>
> Windows Mail Newsgroup
> =====================
> Nttp:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> Web-interface: Http
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ows.vista.mail
>
> Good luck!
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eDdcFxp0IHA.1628@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa
>> Ultimate x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail going and
>> after killing UAC so I could think without having to click something
>> every minute I was able to try importing my Outlook Express message store
>> into Windows Mail. I'm trying it over the network.
>>
>> When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook
>> Express folder at the end of that long path but the Import app for
>> Windows Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can
>> look via the network(a workgroup type) and see the files but the import
>> app doesn't see a thing.
>>
>> What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.
>>
>> I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the
>> wizard still can't find the message store files. I did notice one thing
>> that looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It
>> was able to import the messages with no problems by the way). The Windows
>> Mail wizard never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook
>> Express wizard did. Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can
>> import messages with no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't
>> seem to be able to.
>>
>> cmsix
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-20-2008   #7 (permalink)
cmsix
Guest


 

Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

Sorry about the previous blank message and thank you for the information.
Thanks also for the pointer to the correct group. I just got this machine
going yesterday and haven't been able to find the correct software for
Wireless Intellimouse Explorer II, thus I don't have the magic magnifier
button. Since like other versions, Vista Ultimate x64 still isn't shart
enough to increase the font size inside dialogs when you tell it to use a
custom font size in the video properties, whatever it is calling them now,
this group was my closest guess from text I couldn't barely read. Sorry to
have darkened you door and I shall try not to bother you again.

cmsix

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:49DCCB9A-CEAF-4542-A9C4-5653987BCCF7@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Windows Mail can import OE messages.
> - Vista's Windows Mail has a bug....ensure that when browsing to OE's
> store that Windows Mail doesn't insert a duplicate folder name at the end
> of the path.
> e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\<your windows logon id>\Local
> Settings\Application
> Data\Identities\{6FD910CC-5BD6-423E-BA5E-CFBB2B006F15}\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express\Outlook Express
> ****Note the duplicate Outlook Express at the end**** remove it
>
> Also it might be appropriate in Vista to leave UAC enabled and approve the
> prompts to UAC when importing to your permission related Vista profile.
>
> For future Windows Mail questions since this forum is for Windows Live
> Mail[WLM] an alternate email client to OE(Xp) and Windows Mail(WM, Vista)
> consider posting to the appropriate newsgroup(see links below)
>
> Windows Mail Newsgroup
> =====================
> Nttp:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> Web-interface: Http
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ows.vista.mail
>
> Good luck!
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eDdcFxp0IHA.1628@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa
>> Ultimate x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail going and
>> after killing UAC so I could think without having to click something
>> every minute I was able to try importing my Outlook Express message store
>> into Windows Mail. I'm trying it over the network.
>>
>> When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook
>> Express folder at the end of that long path but the Import app for
>> Windows Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can
>> look via the network(a workgroup type) and see the files but the import
>> app doesn't see a thing.
>>
>> What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.
>>
>> I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the
>> wizard still can't find the message store files. I did notice one thing
>> that looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It
>> was able to import the messages with no problems by the way). The Windows
>> Mail wizard never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook
>> Express wizard did. Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can
>> import messages with no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't
>> seem to be able to.
>>
>> cmsix
>>
>
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Old 06-21-2008   #8 (permalink)
...winston
Guest


 

Re: Importing OE messages to Windows Mail

No problem, I hope the 'double path' information alleviates your OE to Windows Mail import issue

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#KE4YL00IHA.2064@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Sorry about the previous blank message and thank you for the information. Thanks also for the pointer to the correct group. I
> just got this machine going yesterday and haven't been able to find the correct software for Wireless Intellimouse Explorer II,
> thus I don't have the magic magnifier button. Since like other versions, Vista Ultimate x64 still isn't shart enough to increase
> the font size inside dialogs when you tell it to use a custom font size in the video properties, whatever it is calling them now,
> this group was my closest guess from text I couldn't barely read. Sorry to have darkened you door and I shall try not to bother
> you again.
>
> cmsix
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:49DCCB9A-CEAF-4542-A9C4-5653987BCCF7@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Windows Mail can import OE messages.
>> - Vista's Windows Mail has a bug....ensure that when browsing to OE's store that Windows Mail doesn't insert a duplicate folder
>> name at the end of the path.
>> e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\<your windows logon id>\Local Settings\Application
>> Data\Identities\{6FD910CC-5BD6-423E-BA5E-CFBB2B006F15}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Outlook Express
>> ****Note the duplicate Outlook Express at the end**** remove it
>>
>> Also it might be appropriate in Vista to leave UAC enabled and approve the prompts to UAC when importing to your permission
>> related Vista profile.
>>
>> For future Windows Mail questions since this forum is for Windows Live Mail[WLM] an alternate email client to OE(Xp) and Windows
>> Mail(WM, Vista) consider posting to the appropriate newsgroup(see links below)
>>
>> Windows Mail Newsgroup
>> =====================
>> Nttp:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>>
>> Web-interface: Http
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ows.vista.mail
>>
>> Good luck!
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "cmsix" <cmsix@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eDdcFxp0IHA.1628@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Is it actually possible? I'm trying to move up from XP Home to Visa Ultimate x64 (I think that's the name). I got Windows Mail
>>> going and after killing UAC so I could think without having to click something every minute I was able to try importing my
>>> Outlook Express message store into Windows Mail. I'm trying it over the network.
>>>
>>> When I browse to my Outlook Express message store I can find the Outlook Express folder at the end of that long path but the
>>> Import app for Windows Mail doesn't see anything inside the folder. Not one thing. I can look via the network(a workgroup type)
>>> and see the files but the import app doesn't see a thing.
>>>
>>> What gives? Does this just not function or am I holding my mouth wrong.
>>>
>>> I even wised up and copied the store folder onto the new machine and the wizard still can't find the message store files. I did
>>> notice one thing that looked different from when I had XP Pro x64 on the new machine. (It was able to import the messages with
>>> no problems by the way). The Windows Mail wizard never ask me for any identities like the XP Pro x64 Outlook Express wizard
>>> did. Funny innit? The old outdated Outlook Express can import messages with no problems, but the fancy new whiz-bang doesn't
>>> seem to be able to.
>>>
>>> cmsix
>>>
>>
>
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