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Old 06-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
YRAGDRAW


 
 

Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

Have XP Pro and SP3. Recently moved to WLM. Movd accounts and messages all
running fine. Dont like some of the features - have multiple accounts and
never know where junk is - but that is not my problem.

The issue I am having is that I still get a pop up that OE6 wants to compact
folders. Well that is strange since I am not using it and havent done since
I transferred. It happened again this morning. I opened Live mail and the
Live mail splash screen appeared followd by a dialog box that OE6 wants to
compact folders. I said Ok, it did it and after about a minute I was back on
track with LIVE Mail. The old .bak files were duly put in the recycle bin
and I have deleted them.

Any ideas as to why OE6 still wants to get involved?

Thanks

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

We've seen a rash of this problem lately.

Installing SP3 seems to be the common trigger. But only some people
seem to be affected. Something seems to be triggering OE to open/close
repeatedly and then hitting the 100 close compact trigger. But it seems
to be different program for different people.

Uninstalling OE may or may not help. At least one person reported
uninstalling OE, but the problem remained, yet another reported that
uninstalling stopped the problem.

One person reported that uninstalling Windows Desktop Search stopped the
problem, but others with the program aren't seeing any problem.

Another person reported that updating his version of Nero stopped the
problem.

And at least one person has reported that uninstalling the driver for
the IBM Rapid Access keyboard helped.
The "IBM Rapid Access" keyboard driver (RAKDLL.dll) is found in some
IBM/Lenovo laptops as well as standalone keyboards for desktops.

The other common thread is that the problem seems to affect people who
aren't actively using OE. Some people have never used OE, others used
to but are now using a different program, such as Windows Live Mail, and
now rarely if ever open OE.

Microsoft is looking into the issue, but as far as I know, the
underlying cause hasn't been identified.

You'll find more on this issue if you visit the OE newsgroups.



--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"YRAGDRAW" <YRAGDRAW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A3ADD22F-73AA-4F00-950B-97A209FB3EF1@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Have XP Pro and SP3. Recently moved to WLM. Movd accounts and
> messages all
> running fine. Dont like some of the features - have multiple accounts
> and
> never know where junk is - but that is not my problem.
>
> The issue I am having is that I still get a pop up that OE6 wants to
> compact
> folders. Well that is strange since I am not using it and havent done
> since
> I transferred. It happened again this morning. I opened Live mail
> and the
> Live mail splash screen appeared followd by a dialog box that OE6
> wants to
> compact folders. I said Ok, it did it and after about a minute I was
> back on
> track with LIVE Mail. The old .bak files were duly put in the recycle
> bin
> and I have deleted them.
>
> Any ideas as to why OE6 still wants to get involved?
>
> Thanks

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-23-2008   #3 (permalink)
news.albasani.net


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

I do not have OE. I have microsoft mail.

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uEqnSOW1IHA.4164@xxxxxx
Quote:

> We've seen a rash of this problem lately.
>
> Installing SP3 seems to be the common trigger. But only some people seem
> to be affected. Something seems to be triggering OE to open/close
> repeatedly and then hitting the 100 close compact trigger. But it seems
> to be different program for different people.
>
> Uninstalling OE may or may not help. At least one person reported
> uninstalling OE, but the problem remained, yet another reported that
> uninstalling stopped the problem.
>
> One person reported that uninstalling Windows Desktop Search stopped the
> problem, but others with the program aren't seeing any problem.
>
> Another person reported that updating his version of Nero stopped the
> problem.
>
> And at least one person has reported that uninstalling the driver for
> the IBM Rapid Access keyboard helped.
> The "IBM Rapid Access" keyboard driver (RAKDLL.dll) is found in some
> IBM/Lenovo laptops as well as standalone keyboards for desktops.
>
> The other common thread is that the problem seems to affect people who
> aren't actively using OE. Some people have never used OE, others used to
> but are now using a different program, such as Windows Live Mail, and now
> rarely if ever open OE.
>
> Microsoft is looking into the issue, but as far as I know, the underlying
> cause hasn't been identified.
>
> You'll find more on this issue if you visit the OE newsgroups.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "YRAGDRAW" <YRAGDRAW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A3ADD22F-73AA-4F00-950B-97A209FB3EF1@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Have XP Pro and SP3. Recently moved to WLM. Movd accounts and messages
>> all
>> running fine. Dont like some of the features - have multiple accounts
>> and
>> never know where junk is - but that is not my problem.
>>
>> The issue I am having is that I still get a pop up that OE6 wants to
>> compact
>> folders. Well that is strange since I am not using it and havent done
>> since
>> I transferred. It happened again this morning. I opened Live mail and
>> the
>> Live mail splash screen appeared followd by a dialog box that OE6 wants
>> to
>> compact folders. I said Ok, it did it and after about a minute I was
>> back on
>> track with LIVE Mail. The old .bak files were duly put in the recycle
>> bin
>> and I have deleted them.
>>
>> Any ideas as to why OE6 still wants to get involved?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-23-2008   #4 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

Microsoft Mail ?
"The first Microsoft Mail product was introduced in 1988 for AppleTalk Networks. It was based on InterMail, a product that
Microsoft purchased and updated. An MS-DOS client was added for PCs on AppleTalk networks. It was later sold off to become Star
Nine Mail, *********and has long since been discontinued***********

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"news.albasani.net" <mompgram@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eHMxdaW1IHA.3860@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I do not have OE. I have microsoft mail.
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uEqnSOW1IHA.4164@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> We've seen a rash of this problem lately.
>>
>> Installing SP3 seems to be the common trigger. But only some people seem to be affected. Something seems to be triggering OE
>> to open/close repeatedly and then hitting the 100 close compact trigger. But it seems to be different program for different
>> people.
>>
>> Uninstalling OE may or may not help. At least one person reported uninstalling OE, but the problem remained, yet another
>> reported that uninstalling stopped the problem.
>>
>> One person reported that uninstalling Windows Desktop Search stopped the
>> problem, but others with the program aren't seeing any problem.
>>
>> Another person reported that updating his version of Nero stopped the problem.
>>
>> And at least one person has reported that uninstalling the driver for
>> the IBM Rapid Access keyboard helped.
>> The "IBM Rapid Access" keyboard driver (RAKDLL.dll) is found in some
>> IBM/Lenovo laptops as well as standalone keyboards for desktops.
>>
>> The other common thread is that the problem seems to affect people who aren't actively using OE. Some people have never used
>> OE, others used to but are now using a different program, such as Windows Live Mail, and now rarely if ever open OE.
>>
>> Microsoft is looking into the issue, but as far as I know, the underlying cause hasn't been identified.
>>
>> You'll find more on this issue if you visit the OE newsgroups.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "YRAGDRAW" <YRAGDRAW@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A3ADD22F-73AA-4F00-950B-97A209FB3EF1@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Have XP Pro and SP3. Recently moved to WLM. Movd accounts and messages all
>>> running fine. Dont like some of the features - have multiple accounts and
>>> never know where junk is - but that is not my problem.
>>>
>>> The issue I am having is that I still get a pop up that OE6 wants to compact
>>> folders. Well that is strange since I am not using it and havent done since
>>> I transferred. It happened again this morning. I opened Live mail and the
>>> Live mail splash screen appeared followd by a dialog box that OE6 wants to
>>> compact folders. I said Ok, it did it and after about a minute I was back on
>>> track with LIVE Mail. The old .bak files were duly put in the recycle bin
>>> and I have deleted them.
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to why OE6 still wants to get involved?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-23-2008   #5 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

"news.albasani.net" <mompgram@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eHMxdaW1IHA.3860@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I do not have OE. I have microsoft mail.

All XP users have OE. So a more useful answer would
respond to Michael's other points, e.g. whether you have
Windows Search 4.0 installed and whether you use it.

In any case you can stop seeing the message (at least for
a while) by allowing the compaction to occur or by opening
OE and doing a manual Compact All Folders.
E.g. Run... msimn.exe and press Alt-F,F,F
For most reliable results I would do that only when
OE is open at its root (press Ctrl-y,Home,Enter)
and in a Working Offline state (Alt-F,W).


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---


Quote:

>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uEqnSOW1IHA.4164@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> We've seen a rash of this problem lately.
>>
>> Installing SP3 seems to be the common trigger. But only some people seem
>> to be affected. Something seems to be triggering OE to open/close
>> repeatedly and then hitting the 100 close compact trigger. But it seems
>> to be different program for different people.
>>
>> Uninstalling OE may or may not help. At least one person reported
>> uninstalling OE, but the problem remained, yet another reported that
>> uninstalling stopped the problem.
>>
>> One person reported that uninstalling Windows Desktop Search stopped the
>> problem, but others with the program aren't seeing any problem.
>>
>> Another person reported that updating his version of Nero stopped the
>> problem.
>>
>> And at least one person has reported that uninstalling the driver for
>> the IBM Rapid Access keyboard helped.
>> The "IBM Rapid Access" keyboard driver (RAKDLL.dll) is found in some
>> IBM/Lenovo laptops as well as standalone keyboards for desktops.
>>
>> The other common thread is that the problem seems to affect people who
>> aren't actively using OE. Some people have never used OE, others used to
>> but are now using a different program, such as Windows Live Mail, and now
>> rarely if ever open OE.
>>
>> Microsoft is looking into the issue, but as far as I know, the underlying
>> cause hasn't been identified.
>>
>> You'll find more on this issue if you visit the OE newsgroups.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "YRAGDRAW" <YRAGDRAW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A3ADD22F-73AA-4F00-950B-97A209FB3EF1@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Have XP Pro and SP3. Recently moved to WLM. Movd accounts and messages
>>> all
>>> running fine. Dont like some of the features - have multiple accounts
>>> and
>>> never know where junk is - but that is not my problem.
>>>
>>> The issue I am having is that I still get a pop up that OE6 wants to
>>> compact
>>> folders. Well that is strange since I am not using it and havent done
>>> since
>>> I transferred. It happened again this morning. I opened Live mail and
>>> the
>>> Live mail splash screen appeared followd by a dialog box that OE6 wants
>>> to
>>> compact folders. I said Ok, it did it and after about a minute I was
>>> back on
>>> track with LIVE Mail. The old .bak files were duly put in the recycle
>>> bin
>>> and I have deleted them.
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to why OE6 still wants to get involved?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-23-2008   #6 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

There currently is no program named Microsoft Mail.
Please look for the correct program name under its Help, About...

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"news.albasani.net" <mompgram@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eHMxdaW1IHA.3860@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I do not have OE. I have microsoft mail.
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uEqnSOW1IHA.4164@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> We've seen a rash of this problem lately.
>>
>> Installing SP3 seems to be the common trigger. But only some people seem
>> to be affected. Something seems to be triggering OE to open/close
>> repeatedly and then hitting the 100 close compact trigger. But it seems
>> to be different program for different people.
>>
>> Uninstalling OE may or may not help. At least one person reported
>> uninstalling OE, but the problem remained, yet another reported that
>> uninstalling stopped the problem.
>>
>> One person reported that uninstalling Windows Desktop Search stopped the
>> problem, but others with the program aren't seeing any problem.
>>
>> Another person reported that updating his version of Nero stopped the
>> problem.
>>
>> And at least one person has reported that uninstalling the driver for
>> the IBM Rapid Access keyboard helped.
>> The "IBM Rapid Access" keyboard driver (RAKDLL.dll) is found in some
>> IBM/Lenovo laptops as well as standalone keyboards for desktops.
>>
>> The other common thread is that the problem seems to affect people who
>> aren't actively using OE. Some people have never used OE, others used to
>> but are now using a different program, such as Windows Live Mail, and now
>> rarely if ever open OE.
>>
>> Microsoft is looking into the issue, but as far as I know, the underlying
>> cause hasn't been identified.
>>
>> You'll find more on this issue if you visit the OE newsgroups.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "YRAGDRAW" <YRAGDRAW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A3ADD22F-73AA-4F00-950B-97A209FB3EF1@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Have XP Pro and SP3. Recently moved to WLM. Movd accounts and messages
>>> all
>>> running fine. Dont like some of the features - have multiple accounts
>>> and
>>> never know where junk is - but that is not my problem.
>>>
>>> The issue I am having is that I still get a pop up that OE6 wants to
>>> compact
>>> folders. Well that is strange since I am not using it and havent done
>>> since
>>> I transferred. It happened again this morning. I opened Live mail and
>>> the
>>> Live mail splash screen appeared followd by a dialog box that OE6 wants
>>> to
>>> compact folders. I said Ok, it did it and after about a minute I was
>>> back on
>>> track with LIVE Mail. The old .bak files were duly put in the recycle
>>> bin
>>> and I have deleted them.
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to why OE6 still wants to get involved?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2008   #7 (permalink)
YRAGDRAW


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

It seems somebody has hijacked this question and talking about Microsoft
mail. My original post was about WLMail and OE6 and compacting folders. I
guess I will have to wait for MS to come up with an update.

Interestingly enough, my history goes back to knowing the guys who wrote
Intermail, I also used it on early Apple Macs (128K Plus , SE, etc), and
correct they sold it to Microsoft and came out rebranded as MSMail. Actually
not all that different to todays WLmail which is pretty much what you would
expect from a program that sends and receives mail! Good old days.

I digress, I guess I could just eleimainateOE6 and the old mail folders -
but its a nice backup!.

Gary
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-26-2008   #8 (permalink)
PA Bear [MS MVP]


 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

Try posting to this OE-specific newsgroup instead:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

Include your Windows version (WinXP SP3, I'm sure) in your first post.
===============================

cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...d35fbfa457fd6f

For reference, here's a list of known possible culprits so far:

• Various & sundry anti-virus applications (including Norton)
• Various & sundry anti-spyware applications
• Various & sundry third-party firewalls
• Any/all of the above running when SP3 was installed
• IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL
• Nero plug-in(s)
• Windows Desktop Search
• Windows Live Mail
• Disk defragmentation
• MailWasher

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

YRAGDRAW wrote:
Quote:

> It seems somebody has hijacked this question and talking about Microsoft
> mail. My original post was about WLMail and OE6 and compacting folders.
> I
> guess I will have to wait for MS to come up with an update.
>
> Interestingly enough, my history goes back to knowing the guys who wrote
> Intermail, I also used it on early Apple Macs (128K Plus , SE, etc), and
> correct they sold it to Microsoft and came out rebranded as MSMail.
> Actually
> not all that different to todays WLmail which is pretty much what you
> would
> expect from a program that sends and receives mail! Good old days.
>
> I digress, I guess I could just eleimainateOE6 and the old mail folders -
> but its a nice backup!.
>
> Gary
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-10-2008   #9 (permalink)


Vista
 
 

Re: Using Live Mail but Outlook Express want to compact folders!!

I have been running a MAPI program for 18 months no problem till I installed this silly SP3. I was getting the compact messages warning everytime the program read a message, ie 3000 per day.

After wasting some hours changing the Identity of outlook and trying all the solutions listed on various forums I found a great solution:

Click control panel, select "Add or remove programs" then select SP3 remove it and no further trouble.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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