Windows Live Mail

Let me start with any apologises if this is posting in the wrong area. I have
a few issues with WLM (Version 2008/Build 12.0.1606) and can use any help
that can be offered.
1 - Is slow to load and, once loaded, tends to "not respond" for an
irritating length of time. Any solutions...?
2 - Do not want MSN Messenger to load with mail but, no matter I unclick, it
does. Please advise...
3 - I need to change my "designation" storage drive location for mail
messages to a MY BOOK but this does not seem to be a go. Have read the
instructions offered by WLM but WLM does not cooperate. Is there an easy fix
to this?

I would prefer to use WLM exclusively but I have just about reached my
frustration level. Had been told WLM is easy to use...much easier than
OE...but don't see it. Is there an Idiot Guide?

*Frustrated in Texas*

Yes...

That's clearly not true.

DSH

"Majikattic" <Majikattic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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WLM does not require Messenger. I have neither MSN Messenger nor Live
Messenger on my computer and WLM loads and runs fine. Of course if you
"need" a Messenger program this won't help.

I'm using Outlook for mail for now, WLM sometimes for newsgroups. When a
new version and hopefully bug fixes come out, perhaps I will try it again
for mail.

Cheers,

Earle

"Majikattic" <Majikattic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes...

I don't use Messenger either, I see it as a curse, and WLM loads and runs
just fine.

DSH

"Earle Horton" <earleh_nospam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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What he means is that that MSNMess always loads up and signs in no matter what he does to tell it not to, not that it has to be there for LiveMail to work. I think that's what he means?

They also said "you will find no problem moving over to WLM from OE/WM 'cause it is just the same", which it manifestly is not. The rules don't work the same: email addresses are not read, only names. There is a lot of baggage with each account having it's own section plus a "quick" section plus a storage section (totally rearranged from original WM folders) plus... It also seems to take ages to respond when I click Send/Receive. The entire look and feel is different in fact...

I like his ironic touch at the end " Is there an Idiot Guide?" Very apt since only an idiot would bother using this app for any length of time. Unless MS actually address the problems...

1) It's definitely slower to load than OE. It appears that WLM goes
through a message store data base verification when started. If you
have a lot of messages or low end hardware (as I do), that can take a
while. Whereas my OE takes about 5 seconds to start, WLM takes about 20
to 30 seconds to get to a point to be able to do anything and another 30
to 45 seconds of heavy disk activity before it's fully responsive.

2) The only Messenger setting in WLM that I've aware of is at Tools,
Options, General

3) WLM is based on OE and I assume that it has the same limitation. The
message store must be on a local hard drive. Network and removable
drives are not supported. You could try the same workaround, at your
own risk. That is to manually move the data then edit the registry to
point to it.

WLM is based on OE. They are much the same program with many of the
same features and interface. I would rate them about equal in
ease/difficulty. Some things are easier in one and some in the other.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Majikattic" <Majikattic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Oh. I was guessing it was just trying to cache everything
in Virtual memory so it would look really speedy on high-end
machines--eg. "Vista Ready". ; )


Use Process Explorer and compare them by "Working Set Size".
For WLMail that term is an oxymoron (more like Thrashing Set Size)
or like I say: proof that they want us to upgrade our hardware
so we can try Vista... ; |



I am guessing it is also .NET getting loaded... <eg>

Wait 'til you try letting wsearch run at the same time... ; )

Actually as long as you don't mind risking the occasional
crash you can ignore all that startup I/O and get started
with your commands. They seem to preempt whatever
all is going on at startup.



Another .NET program I believe?
Process Explorer has some statistics for .NET programs
I have been meaning to look into...


; )

Robert
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:27:01 -0700, Majikattic wrote:
I don't know. WLM only takes about 5, or 6 seconds to load, here. But I am
playing with a few things. The Windows XP user account I have has been
configured for a .NET Passport at log in, using the same email account as I
have configured for the default email account in WLM. This is a local IMAP
account ("local" meaning the account is running on an IMAP server on the
premises).
Again, I don't know. WLM honors my selection. The Live Messenger client
loads when I when I select that option, or not when I deselect that option.

Tools | Options | General. "Automatically log on to Windows Live Messenger".
I still don't know. I've not tried to change the storage drive location.
OTOH, if this "My Book" is a network device, or removable storage device,
I'd advise against it. If WLM is like MS Outook Express, it was not designed
with networking, or removable storage devices in mind. If WLM should fail to
find the device, it well could barf, losing your data in the process.
I don't recall *anybody* saying that WLM would be easy to use, much less
"easier than OE". My personal experience, and the experiences of others
reported here, suggests otherwise.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Thank you, gents, for all of your advise and wisdom.

Yes, I do want to move my email programs to an external drive (the My Book),
for portablitiy and convenience. Email overload is ugly. Unfortunately it
seems this is not feasible with Vista.

I can definitely be put on record with stating that WLM sucks. Outlook 2007
is not much better when workng on Vista. I truly miss my OE.

I can make the promise that if there is an alternate program that will work
on this damn machine, that will do what I wish, I will do my level best to
find it. If you have any suggestions re: that wee problem, please feel free
to email me ASAP. <grin>

One would think that if MS is going to come out with a system that is
supposedly faster, more secure/stable, and (SHOULD be) overall better, they
would cover all the bases. Some of us live and die (so to speak) via email
and the Internet. When communication doesn't arrive or becomes pooched during
delivery/send, the results can be painful mentally and financially.

Bless you for listening to my rant. Good news is I finally was able to
uninstall messenger. *wooHoo* It is gone...never to be returned.

Going to drown my sorrows and begin again tomorrow.

Right!

I deep-sixed Messenger long ago.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

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