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Old 08-01-2008   #1 (permalink)
irevans


 
 

WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact updates (for
every single contact). I then have to manually unsubscribe, only for it to do
the same the next time I start it.

How do I prevent this?

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Old 08-01-2008   #2 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

"irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact
> updates (for every single contact). I then have to manually
> unsubscribe, only for it to do the same the next time I start it.
>
> How do I prevent this?
The "subscribe to contact updates" mechanism is a mystery to most
users, but your enquiry has me, at least, baffled. What is it that
tells you that WLMail (There's been no 'D' in the app's name for
more than a year) is automatically subscribing to contact updates?
And how do you go about manually unsubscribing?
--
Noel


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Old 08-01-2008   #3 (permalink)
irevans


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

When WLMail launches it subscribes to contact updates for all my messenger
contacts. For each contact the subscribe box becomes ticked and for each
contact it states that a request for contact updates is pending (this is also
reflected in hotmail). I have to manually unsubscribe for each contact.

I can use hotmail and messenger happily with no problem. However as soon as
I launch WLMail it subscribes. Which means the application is unusable to me.


"Ildhund" wrote:
Quote:

> "irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact
> > updates (for every single contact). I then have to manually
> > unsubscribe, only for it to do the same the next time I start it.
> >
> > How do I prevent this?
>
> The "subscribe to contact updates" mechanism is a mystery to most
> users, but your enquiry has me, at least, baffled. What is it that
> tells you that WLMail (There's been no 'D' in the app's name for
> more than a year) is automatically subscribing to contact updates?
> And how do you go about manually unsubscribing?
> --
> Noel
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-02-2008   #4 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

Close Windows Live Mail
- ensure the WLM processes is ended in Windows Task Manager. If not ended then Ctrl Shift Esc/select wlmail.exe/End Process
Open Windows Live Messenger
Right click each Messenger Contact and click Unsubsribe
- or Edit each contact unsubscribe.
Note: Only contacts that have an Instant Messaging address can be unsubscribed
Open WLM to update the changes in WLM's contact files for unsubscribe

Contact updates will cease, but synchronization will occur to ensure contacts are common across WLM, Hotmail UI, and Messenger.
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact updates (for
> every single contact). I then have to manually unsubscribe, only for it to do
> the same the next time I start it.
>
> How do I prevent this?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-02-2008   #5 (permalink)
irevans


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

I realise that I can unsubscribe from contact updates via messenger (or via
hotmail). The problem is that if I launch WLM they become subscribed again. I
then have to go through the painful process you describe to unsubscribe for
each and every contact. I happily use hotmail and mesenger with no problem
and have given up on WLM because of this issue.

"...winston" wrote:
Quote:

> Close Windows Live Mail
> - ensure the WLM processes is ended in Windows Task Manager. If not ended then Ctrl Shift Esc/select wlmail.exe/End Process
> Open Windows Live Messenger
> Right click each Messenger Contact and click Unsubsribe
> - or Edit each contact unsubscribe.
> Note: Only contacts that have an Instant Messaging address can be unsubscribed
> Open WLM to update the changes in WLM's contact files for unsubscribe
>
> Contact updates will cease, but synchronization will occur to ensure contacts are common across WLM, Hotmail UI, and Messenger.
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact updates (for
> > every single contact). I then have to manually unsubscribe, only for it to do
> > the same the next time I start it.
> >
> > How do I prevent this?
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-03-2008   #6 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

I unsubscribed 3 contacts...after 3 restarts and a dozen or so open and closing of WLM and WLMsgr over the last 28 hours..they're
still unsubscribed in both applications....not sure what you are doing differently.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:82A19B6C-4E66-4DD2-A026-3F91CBC0A249@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I realise that I can unsubscribe from contact updates via messenger (or via
> hotmail). The problem is that if I launch WLM they become subscribed again. I
> then have to go through the painful process you describe to unsubscribe for
> each and every contact. I happily use hotmail and mesenger with no problem
> and have given up on WLM because of this issue.
>
> "...winston" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Close Windows Live Mail
>> - ensure the WLM processes is ended in Windows Task Manager. If not ended then Ctrl Shift Esc/select wlmail.exe/End Process
>> Open Windows Live Messenger
>> Right click each Messenger Contact and click Unsubsribe
>> - or Edit each contact unsubscribe.
>> Note: Only contacts that have an Instant Messaging address can be unsubscribed
>> Open WLM to update the changes in WLM's contact files for unsubscribe
>>
>> Contact updates will cease, but synchronization will occur to ensure contacts are common across WLM, Hotmail UI, and Messenger.
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact updates (for
>> > every single contact). I then have to manually unsubscribe, only for it to do
>> > the same the next time I start it.
>> >
>> > How do I prevent this?
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-03-2008   #7 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

I said this was mysterious. The 'Help' file seems to have changed
between the time of your OP and now, but it may be that I just
landed on a slightly different page when searching for "update".
When you originally posted, I checked Help which said that "an
e-mail is sent" to any contact you subscribe to updates for. Now it
says "A request is sent to the contact, who has the option to accept
or decline. If your request is accepted, the contact's information
is automatically updated in your address book whenever the contact
changes their information." I suspect that this is a Messenger thing
which does not integrate completely into WLMail; it involves Spaces
as well (under whose umbrella 'contact information' beyond the basic
is stored). Knowing that the 'an e-mail is sent' bit was patently
wrong (because none of my contacts where this option is selected
have ever received any e-mail to that effect), I just ignored the
fact that I don't seem to be able to Unsubscribe to updates, and
it's made no difference at all. Most of my contacts have 'Updates
pending'. So, my advice is - don't worry about it. It could well be
that when you and one of your contacts are online and signed into
Messenger at the same time that something will happen if that
contact's details have changed, but this can only be helpful.

Whether the Subscribe box gets checked or not seems to depend on how
the contact is added, and there's not much consistency about it. It
will probably come right in Wave 3 - until then, as I said, don't
worry about it. It's certainly not a reason to stop using WLMail.
--
Noel

"irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:13EE4D74-D530-4E73-926E-C88E187D4721@xxxxxx
Quote:

> When WLMail launches it subscribes to contact updates for all my
> messenger
> contacts. For each contact the subscribe box becomes ticked and
> for each
> contact it states that a request for contact updates is pending
> (this is also
> reflected in hotmail). I have to manually unsubscribe for each
> contact.
>
> I can use hotmail and messenger happily with no problem. However
> as soon as
> I launch WLMail it subscribes. Which means the application is
> unusable to me.
>
>
> "Ildhund" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> "irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact
>> > updates (for every single contact). I then have to manually
>> > unsubscribe, only for it to do the same the next time I start
>> > it.
>> >
>> > How do I prevent this?
>>
>> The "subscribe to contact updates" mechanism is a mystery to most
>> users, but your enquiry has me, at least, baffled. What is it
>> that
>> tells you that WLMail (There's been no 'D' in the app's name for
>> more than a year) is automatically subscribing to contact
>> updates?
>> And how do you go about manually unsubscribing?
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-03-2008   #8 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

This type of "behind the scenes" poorly documented activity is one
of the reasons I won't have Messenger on any of my computers.
I guess I'm just a little paranoid. :-)

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uuJpBPZ9IHA.4820@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I said this was mysterious. The 'Help' file seems to have changed
> between the time of your OP and now, but it may be that I just
> landed on a slightly different page when searching for "update".
> When you originally posted, I checked Help which said that "an
> e-mail is sent" to any contact you subscribe to updates for. Now it
> says "A request is sent to the contact, who has the option to accept
> or decline. If your request is accepted, the contact's information
> is automatically updated in your address book whenever the contact
> changes their information." I suspect that this is a Messenger thing
> which does not integrate completely into WLMail; it involves Spaces
> as well (under whose umbrella 'contact information' beyond the basic
> is stored). Knowing that the 'an e-mail is sent' bit was patently
> wrong (because none of my contacts where this option is selected
> have ever received any e-mail to that effect), I just ignored the
> fact that I don't seem to be able to Unsubscribe to updates, and
> it's made no difference at all. Most of my contacts have 'Updates
> pending'. So, my advice is - don't worry about it. It could well be
> that when you and one of your contacts are online and signed into
> Messenger at the same time that something will happen if that
> contact's details have changed, but this can only be helpful.
>
> Whether the Subscribe box gets checked or not seems to depend on how
> the contact is added, and there's not much consistency about it. It
> will probably come right in Wave 3 - until then, as I said, don't
> worry about it. It's certainly not a reason to stop using WLMail.
> --
> Noel
>
> "irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:13EE4D74-D530-4E73-926E-C88E187D4721@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> When WLMail launches it subscribes to contact updates for all my
>> messenger
>> contacts. For each contact the subscribe box becomes ticked and
>> for each
>> contact it states that a request for contact updates is pending
>> (this is also
>> reflected in hotmail). I have to manually unsubscribe for each
>> contact.
>>
>> I can use hotmail and messenger happily with no problem. However
>> as soon as
>> I launch WLMail it subscribes. Which means the application is
>> unusable to me.
>>
>>
>> "Ildhund" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> "irevans" <irevans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:9C3E8F59-AD11-4B05-B5C3-12782843F1DA@xxxxxx
>>> > Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact
>>> > updates (for every single contact). I then have to manually
>>> > unsubscribe, only for it to do the same the next time I start
>>> > it.
>>> >
>>> > How do I prevent this?
>>>
>>> The "subscribe to contact updates" mechanism is a mystery to most
>>> users, but your enquiry has me, at least, baffled. What is it
>>> that
>>> tells you that WLMail (There's been no 'D' in the app's name for
>>> more than a year) is automatically subscribing to contact
>>> updates?
>>> And how do you go about manually unsubscribing?
>>> --
>>> Noel
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Old 08-03-2008   #9 (permalink)
N. Miller


 
 

Re: WLMD automatically subscribes to contact updates

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:08:23 -0700, irevans wrote:
Quote:

> Each time WLMD starts it automatically subscribes to contact updates (for
> every single contact). I then have to manually unsubscribe, only for it to do
> the same the next time I start it.
>
> How do I prevent this?
I am not sure. I don't seem to have this problem. I had to dig around, and I
can see the option to "Received updates", but only from Windows Live
contacts. None of them have been activated, though.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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