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  1. #1


    D. Spencer Hines Guest

    Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?

    DSH



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  3. #2


    N. Miller Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:10:25 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

    > Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    I uninstalled WDS 3.01 a while back; replaced it with Copernic Destkop
    Search 2.0.

    Does WDS allow you to configure which folders of the Windows file system it
    will index and search? Windows Live Mail is stored as .eml files, and
    Copernic can find such files.

    Copernic just located the .eml file containing the email I posted in
    "Message-ID: <1xe3bpraa9up6$.dlg@xxxxxx>", in the thread on this
    subject:

    | Subject: Re: "Suspicious Sender" warning won't go away

    It even has a button to open the file, and invoked MSOE6 when I clicked on
    that button.

    --
    Norman
    ~Oh Lord, why have you come
    ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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  4. #3


    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    Hi, Spencer.

    In Visa Ultimate x64 SP1, with all Updates, including "Windows Search 4.0
    for Windows Vista x64-based Systems (KB940157)", installed 7/23/08, when I
    press Start and type in "Spencer" (no quotes), I get a dozen or so hits,
    including 7 from WLM's files - including this thread.

    I've seen "Spencer" in a LOT more messages here than that! I'm not sure why
    WS4 found just 7 of them.
    Indexing options tells me, "348,704 items indexed; Indexing complete." In
    Advanced, both .eml and .nws file types are set to "Index Properties Only"
    and to use the "MIME Filter". (Those are the defaults; I didn't change
    those yet, but I might change them later to "Index Properties and File
    Contents".)

    Hmmm... I just noticed something strange. I've included my entire H:\WLM
    location, which is my Store Folder. When I look at that folder in a Command
    Prompt , I see 11 files there, including Mail.MSMessageStore (862,666,752
    bytes at the moment). But that is not included in my list of Indexed
    Locations when I click Modify on the Indexing Options window. Ohh...
    Nevermind. That is a FILE, not a FOLDER, so its contents are included under
    the WLM folder without being separately listed. Duh!

    So I'm back to wondering whether I will get more hits if I change the File
    Types settings. But the answer to your specific question seems clearly to
    be "Yes".

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@xxxxxx
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

    "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:eTI2kps9IHA.1428@xxxxxx

    > Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    >
    > DSH

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  5. #4


    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    Replying to myself to update...

    I changed the defaults under File Types to "Index Properties and File
    Contents" for both .eml and .nws files. Indexing Options warned me that it
    would have to Rebuild the whole Index, which would take a long time. I
    said, "OK" and closed the window.

    Now, a search for "Spencer" finds only 4 items, none of them in my WLM
    store. Indexing Options says it has indexed only about 2,000 items and its
    speed is reduced due to user activity.

    So WS4 is apparently re-indexing my files, as promised, and I should be able
    to do a more-complete search for "Spencer" tomorrow if I leave my computer
    running overnight or for a few hours.

    I'll try to remember to report back later.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@xxxxxx
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

    "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:uvQCTaw9IHA.5872@xxxxxx

    > Hi, Spencer.
    >
    > In Visa Ultimate x64 SP1, with all Updates, including "Windows Search 4.0
    > for Windows Vista x64-based Systems (KB940157)", installed 7/23/08, when I
    > press Start and type in "Spencer" (no quotes), I get a dozen or so hits,
    > including 7 from WLM's files - including this thread.
    >
    > I've seen "Spencer" in a LOT more messages here than that! I'm not sure
    > why WS4 found just 7 of them.
    > Indexing options tells me, "348,704 items indexed; Indexing complete." In
    > Advanced, both .eml and .nws file types are set to "Index Properties Only"
    > and to use the "MIME Filter". (Those are the defaults; I didn't change
    > those yet, but I might change them later to "Index Properties and File
    > Contents".)
    >
    > Hmmm... I just noticed something strange. I've included my entire H:\WLM
    > location, which is my Store Folder. When I look at that folder in a
    > Command Prompt , I see 11 files there, including Mail.MSMessageStore
    > (862,666,752 bytes at the moment). But that is not included in my list of
    > Indexed Locations when I click Modify on the Indexing Options window.
    > Ohh... Nevermind. That is a FILE, not a FOLDER, so its contents are
    > included under the WLM folder without being separately listed. Duh!
    >
    > So I'm back to wondering whether I will get more hits if I change the File
    > Types settings. But the answer to your specific question seems clearly to
    > be "Yes".
    >
    > RC
    >
    > "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:eTI2kps9IHA.1428@xxxxxx

    >> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    >>
    >> DSH

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  6. #5


    D. Spencer Hines Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    Yes, I get the same message but decided to wait.

    My WLM Storage Files are at:

    C:\Documents and Settings\Spncer\Local Settings\Application
    Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Storage Folders

    DSH

    "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ehLu4lw9IHA.3940@xxxxxx

    > Replying to myself to update...
    >
    > I changed the defaults under File Types to "Index Properties and File
    > Contents" for both .eml and .nws files. Indexing Options warned me that
    > it would have to Rebuild the whole Index, which would take a long time. I
    > said, "OK" and closed the window.
    >
    > Now, a search for "Spencer" finds only 4 items, none of them in my WLM
    > store. Indexing Options says it has indexed only about 2,000 items and
    > its speed is reduced due to user activity.
    >
    > So WS4 is apparently re-indexing my files, as promised, and I should be
    > able to do a more-complete search for "Spencer" tomorrow if I leave my
    > computer running overnight or for a few hours.
    >
    > I'll try to remember to report back later.
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > rc@xxxxxx
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
    >
    > "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:uvQCTaw9IHA.5872@xxxxxx

    >> Hi, Spencer.
    >>
    >> In Visa Ultimate x64 SP1, with all Updates, including "Windows Search 4.0
    >> for Windows Vista x64-based Systems (KB940157)", installed 7/23/08, when
    >> I press Start and type in "Spencer" (no quotes), I get a dozen or so
    >> hits, including 7 from WLM's files - including this thread.
    >>
    >> I've seen "Spencer" in a LOT more messages here than that! I'm not sure
    >> why WS4 found just 7 of them.
    >> Indexing options tells me, "348,704 items indexed; Indexing complete."
    >> In Advanced, both .eml and .nws file types are set to "Index Properties
    >> Only" and to use the "MIME Filter". (Those are the defaults; I didn't
    >> change those yet, but I might change them later to "Index Properties and
    >> File Contents".)
    >>
    >> Hmmm... I just noticed something strange. I've included my entire
    >> H:\WLM location, which is my Store Folder. When I look at that folder in
    >> a Command Prompt , I see 11 files there, including Mail.MSMessageStore
    >> (862,666,752 bytes at the moment). But that is not included in my list
    >> of Indexed Locations when I click Modify on the Indexing Options window.
    >> Ohh... Nevermind. That is a FILE, not a FOLDER, so its contents are
    >> included under the WLM folder without being separately listed. Duh!
    >>
    >> So I'm back to wondering whether I will get more hits if I change the
    >> File Types settings. But the answer to your specific question seems
    >> clearly to be "Yes".
    >>
    >> RC
    >>
    >> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:eTI2kps9IHA.1428@xxxxxx

    >>> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    >>>
    >>> DSH


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  7. #6


    D. Spencer Hines Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    Cheers,

    Please see below.

    DSH

    "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:uvQCTaw9IHA.5872@xxxxxx

    > Hi, Spencer.
    >
    > In Visa Ultimate x64 SP1, with all Updates, including "Windows Search 4.0
    > for Windows Vista x64-based Systems (KB940157)", installed 7/23/08, when I
    > press Start and type in "Spencer" (no quotes), I get a dozen or so hits,
    > including 7 from WLM's files - including this thread.
    O.K.

    I'm using XP Pro SP3 with all updates and Windows Search 4.0.

    > I've seen "Spencer" in a LOT more messages here than that! I'm not sure
    > why WS4 found just 7 of them.
    > Indexing options tells me, "348,704 items indexed; Indexing complete."

    > In Advanced, both .eml and .nws file types are set to "Index Properties
    > Only" and to use the "MIME Filter". (Those are the defaults; I didn't
    > change those yet, but I might change them later to "Index Properties and
    > File Contents".)
    Yes, this "Advanced" needs to be tweaked to include "Index Properties and
    File Contents" for all text files -- including those in OE and WLM. But I
    don't know how to do it.

    The files in OE were automatically included -- but not those in WLM when I
    installed it. Ay, there's the rub.

    > Hmmm... I just noticed something strange. I've included my entire H:\WLM
    > location, which is my Store Folder. When I look at that folder in a
    > Command Prompt , I see 11 files there, including Mail.MSMessageStore
    > (862,666,752 bytes at the moment). But that is not included in my list of
    > Indexed Locations when I click Modify on the Indexing Options window.
    > Ohh... Nevermind. That is a FILE, not a FOLDER, so its contents are
    > included under the WLM folder without being separately listed. Duh!
    >
    > So I'm back to wondering whether I will get more hits if I change the File
    > Types settings. But the answer to your specific question seems clearly to
    > be "Yes".
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > rc@xxxxxx
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
    >
    > "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:eTI2kps9IHA.1428@xxxxxx

    >> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    >>
    >> DSH


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  8. #7


    D. Spencer Hines Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:1u1jqrl0xy1jn.dlg@xxxxxx

    > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:10:25 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    >

    >> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    >
    > I uninstalled WDS 3.01 a while back; replaced it with Copernic Destkop
    > Search 2.0.
    >
    > Does WDS allow you to configure which folders of the Windows file system
    > it will index and search? Windows Live Mail is stored as .eml files, and
    > Copernic can find such files.
    It does allow for configuring but we are still wrestling with some of the
    practical details to catch everything.

    I'd like to be able to catch all photo files too -- by name or subject line.

    > Copernic just located the .eml file containing the email I posted in

    > "Message-ID: <1xe3bpraa9up6$.dlg@xxxxxx>", in the thread on
    > this subject:
    >
    > | Subject: Re: "Suspicious Sender" warning won't go away
    >
    > It even has a button to open the file, and invoked MSOE6 when I clicked on
    > that button.
    >
    > --
    > Norman
    > ~Oh Lord, why have you come
    > ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #8


    NewWorldMan Guest

    Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

    How do you get Copernic to find WLM eml files? I have Copernic and it only
    shows OE mails from before I upgraded to WLM.

    "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:1u1jqrl0xy1jn.dlg@xxxxxx

    > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:10:25 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    >

    >> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
    >
    > I uninstalled WDS 3.01 a while back; replaced it with Copernic Destkop
    > Search 2.0.
    >
    > Does WDS allow you to configure which folders of the Windows file system
    > it
    > will index and search? Windows Live Mail is stored as .eml files, and
    > Copernic can find such files.
    >
    > Copernic just located the .eml file containing the email I posted in
    > "Message-ID: <1xe3bpraa9up6$.dlg@xxxxxx>", in the thread on
    > this
    > subject:
    >
    > | Subject: Re: "Suspicious Sender" warning won't go away
    >
    > It even has a button to open the file, and invoked MSOE6 when I clicked on
    > that button.
    >
    > --
    > Norman
    > ~Oh Lord, why have you come
    > ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

      My System SpecsSystem Spec


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