Vista - Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM

08-05-2008

What if you do a search for this thread:

Windows Desktop Search & WLM

I wonder if Windows Search will index and catch it from the subject line.

DSH

Quote:

> Yes, I get the same message but decided to wait.
>
> My WLM Storage Files are at:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Spncer\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Storage Folders
>
> DSH
>
> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ehLu4lw9IHA.3940@xxxxxx
>

Quote:

>> Replying to myself to update...
>>
>> I changed the defaults under File Types to "Index Properties and File
>> Contents" for both .eml and .nws files. Indexing Options warned me that
>> it would have to Rebuild the whole Index, which would take a long time.
>> I
>> said, "OK" and closed the window.
>>
>> Now, a search for "Spencer" finds only 4 items, none of them in my WLM
>> store. Indexing Options says it has indexed only about 2,000 items and
>> its speed is reduced due to user activity.
>>
>> So WS4 is apparently re-indexing my files, as promised, and I should be
>> able to do a more-complete search for "Spencer" tomorrow if I leave my
>> computer running overnight or for a few hours.
>>
>> I'll try to remember to report back later.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@xxxxxx
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>>
>> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uvQCTaw9IHA.5872@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> Hi, Spencer.
>>>
>>> In Visa Ultimate x64 SP1, with all Updates, including "Windows Search
>>> 4.0
>>> for Windows Vista x64-based Systems (KB940157)", installed 7/23/08, when
>>> I press Start and type in "Spencer" (no quotes), I get a dozen or so
>>> hits, including 7 from WLM's files - including this thread.
>>>
>>> I've seen "Spencer" in a LOT more messages here than that! I'm not sure
>>> why WS4 found just 7 of them.
>>> Indexing options tells me, "348,704 items indexed; Indexing complete."
>>> In Advanced, both .eml and .nws file types are set to "Index Properties
>>> Only" and to use the "MIME Filter". (Those are the defaults; I didn't
>>> change those yet, but I might change them later to "Index Properties and
>>> File Contents".)
>>>
>>> Hmmm... I just noticed something strange. I've included my entire
>>> H:\WLM location, which is my Store Folder. When I look at that folder
>>> in
>>> a Command Prompt , I see 11 files there, including Mail.MSMessageStore
>>> (862,666,752 bytes at the moment). But that is not included in my list
>>> of Indexed Locations when I click Modify on the Indexing Options window.
>>> Ohh... Nevermind. That is a FILE, not a FOLDER, so its contents are
>>> included under the WLM folder without being separately listed. Duh!
>>>
>>> So I'm back to wondering whether I will get more hits if I change the
>>> File Types settings. But the answer to your specific question seems
>>> clearly to be "Yes".
>>>
>>> RC
>>>
>>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eTI2kps9IHA.1428@xxxxxx
>>>> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM?
>>>>
>>>> DSH

08-05-2008

Duly noted that what used to be Windows Desktop Search is now Windows Search
in the 4.0 version.

So, I've changed the subject line of this thread.

Windows Search should be able to index anything on the hard drive, if the
name is accurate.

DSH

08-05-2008

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#j67$oy9IHA.3612@xxxxxx

Quote:

> What if you do a search for this thread:
>
> Windows Desktop Search & WLM
>
> I wonder if Windows Search will index and catch it from the subject line.

Yes, even using search term attribute title: but searches with
that attribute only succeed when the document was indexed
by the the OE ifilter. Similarly author:spencer only finds stuff
which has been indexed from being posted to newsgroups
which I subscribe to using OE. I can find stuff in here
which you have been involved with by searching
for spencer folder:desktop and the number of hits I get
with that corresponds with the number of hits I get
from using a Ctrl-Shift-F Alt-r Find in WLMail.

BTW I consider WS WIP so put your construction hat
and work boots on and don't be too critical of its usability. <eg>

FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
---

08-06-2008

D. Spencer Hines

You have not changed over the years. Method is different but Still a troll and nothing else

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ONZ6k%2309IHA.2064@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Duly noted that what used to be Windows Desktop Search is now Windows Search
> in the 4.0 version.
>
> So, I've changed the subject line of this thread.
>
> Windows Search should be able to index anything on the hard drive, if the
> name is accurate.
>
> DSH
>
>

08-06-2008

I did a Scorched Earth on the Windows Search Windows Search Options and did
a cold reboot.

The program automatically picked up Outlook Express but NOT WLM.

So, the question NOW is whether we can get it to index WLM emails and
newsgroup messages as well as OE -- AND whether it's CAPABLE of indexing WLM
in toto.

Perhaps there IS no WLM ifilter and the folks with muddy boots have yet to
construct one. <g>

DSH

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#PMkai29IHA.4952@xxxxxx

Quote:

> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#j67$oy9IHA.3612@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> What if you do a search for this thread:
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search & WLM
>>
>> I wonder if Windows Search will index and catch it from the subject line.

>
> Yes, even using search term attribute title: but searches with
> that attribute only succeed when the document was indexed
> by the the OE ifilter. Similarly author:spencer only finds stuff
> which has been indexed from being posted to newsgroups
> which I subscribe to using OE. I can find stuff in here
> which you have been involved with by searching
> for spencer folder:desktop and the number of hits I get
> with that corresponds with the number of hits I get
> from using a Ctrl-Shift-F Alt-r Find in WLMail.
>
> BTW I consider WS WIP so put your construction hat
> and work boots on and don't be too critical of its usability. <eg>
>
>
> FYI
>
> Robert Aldwinckle

08-05-2008	#1 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines n/a posts	Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM What if you do a search for this thread: Windows Desktop Search & WLM I wonder if Windows Search will index and catch it from the subject line. DSH Quote: > Yes, I get the same message but decided to wait. > > My WLM Storage Files are at: > > C:\Documents and Settings\Spncer\Local Settings\Application > Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Storage Folders > > DSH > > "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ehLu4lw9IHA.3940@xxxxxx > Quote: >> Replying to myself to update... >> >> I changed the defaults under File Types to "Index Properties and File >> Contents" for both .eml and .nws files. Indexing Options warned me that >> it would have to Rebuild the whole Index, which would take a long time. >> I >> said, "OK" and closed the window. >> >> Now, a search for "Spencer" finds only 4 items, none of them in my WLM >> store. Indexing Options says it has indexed only about 2,000 items and >> its speed is reduced due to user activity. >> >> So WS4 is apparently re-indexing my files, as promised, and I should be >> able to do a more-complete search for "Spencer" tomorrow if I leave my >> computer running overnight or for a few hours. >> >> I'll try to remember to report back later. >> >> RC >> -- >> R. C. White, CPA >> San Marcos, TX >> rc@xxxxxx >> Microsoft Windows MVP >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) >> >> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:uvQCTaw9IHA.5872@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Hi, Spencer. >>> >>> In Visa Ultimate x64 SP1, with all Updates, including "Windows Search >>> 4.0 >>> for Windows Vista x64-based Systems (KB940157)", installed 7/23/08, when >>> I press Start and type in "Spencer" (no quotes), I get a dozen or so >>> hits, including 7 from WLM's files - including this thread. >>> >>> I've seen "Spencer" in a LOT more messages here than that! I'm not sure >>> why WS4 found just 7 of them. >>> Indexing options tells me, "348,704 items indexed; Indexing complete." >>> In Advanced, both .eml and .nws file types are set to "Index Properties >>> Only" and to use the "MIME Filter". (Those are the defaults; I didn't >>> change those yet, but I might change them later to "Index Properties and >>> File Contents".) >>> >>> Hmmm... I just noticed something strange. I've included my entire >>> H:\WLM location, which is my Store Folder. When I look at that folder >>> in >>> a Command Prompt , I see 11 files there, including Mail.MSMessageStore >>> (862,666,752 bytes at the moment). But that is not included in my list >>> of Indexed Locations when I click Modify on the Indexing Options window. >>> Ohh... Nevermind. That is a FILE, not a FOLDER, so its contents are >>> included under the WLM folder without being separately listed. Duh! >>> >>> So I'm back to wondering whether I will get more hits if I change the >>> File Types settings. But the answer to your specific question seems >>> clearly to be "Yes". >>> >>> RC >>> >>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:eTI2kps9IHA.1428@xxxxxx >>>> Will Windows Desktop Search index the contents of WLM? >>>> >>>> DSH
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08-05-2008	#2 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines n/a posts	Re: Windows Search & WLM Duly noted that what used to be Windows Desktop Search is now Windows Search in the 4.0 version. So, I've changed the subject line of this thread. Windows Search should be able to index anything on the hard drive, if the name is accurate. DSH
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08-05-2008	#3 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle n/a posts	Re: Windows Desktop Search & WLM "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#j67$oy9IHA.3612@xxxxxx Quote: > What if you do a search for this thread: > > Windows Desktop Search & WLM > > I wonder if Windows Search will index and catch it from the subject line. Yes, even using search term attribute title: but searches with that attribute only succeed when the document was indexed by the the OE ifilter. Similarly author:spencer only finds stuff which has been indexed from being posted to newsgroups which I subscribe to using OE. I can find stuff in here which you have been involved with by searching for spencer folder:desktop and the number of hits I get with that corresponds with the number of hits I get from using a Ctrl-Shift-F Alt-r Find in WLMail. BTW I consider WS WIP so put your construction hat and work boots on and don't be too critical of its usability. <eg> FYI Robert Aldwinckle ---
My System Specs

08-06-2008	#4 (permalink)
Peter Foldes n/a posts	Re: Windows Search & WLM D. Spencer Hines You have not changed over the years. Method is different but Still a troll and nothing else -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ONZ6k%2309IHA.2064@xxxxxx Quote: > Duly noted that what used to be Windows Desktop Search is now Windows Search > in the 4.0 version. > > So, I've changed the subject line of this thread. > > Windows Search should be able to index anything on the hard drive, if the > name is accurate. > > DSH > >
My System Specs

08-06-2008	#5 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines n/a posts	Re: Windows Search & WLM I did a Scorched Earth on the Windows Search Windows Search Options and did a cold reboot. The program automatically picked up Outlook Express but NOT WLM. So, the question NOW is whether we can get it to index WLM emails and newsgroup messages as well as OE -- AND whether it's CAPABLE of indexing WLM in toto. Perhaps there IS no WLM ifilter and the folks with muddy boots have yet to construct one. <g> DSH "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#PMkai29IHA.4952@xxxxxx Quote: > "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:#j67$oy9IHA.3612@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> What if you do a search for this thread: >> >> Windows Desktop Search & WLM >> >> I wonder if Windows Search will index and catch it from the subject line. > > Yes, even using search term attribute title: but searches with > that attribute only succeed when the document was indexed > by the the OE ifilter. Similarly author:spencer only finds stuff > which has been indexed from being posted to newsgroups > which I subscribe to using OE. I can find stuff in here > which you have been involved with by searching > for spencer folder:desktop and the number of hits I get > with that corresponds with the number of hits I get > from using a Ctrl-Shift-F Alt-r Find in WLMail. > > BTW I consider WS WIP so put your construction hat > and work boots on and don't be too critical of its usability. <eg> > > > FYI > > Robert Aldwinckle
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