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Old 08-16-2008   #1 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium (SP1, x86, Ita)
 
 

[bug] WLM can't be restarted

Hello!
My config is in the signature.

I'm a new WLM user. I've always been using WM 'till the other day.
I like WLM but I've suddenly found a bug: randomly, or to be exact after some time WLM is working, when I exit, the icon will still stay in the traybar. If I exit clicking on the traybar icon then I won't be able to restart it and reports an error saying that probably its files are locked by another program...
If I open Task Manager I see actually wlmail.exe is still in the list (!!), so that's why files are locked. It's not an AV problem as it suggests...
If I kill the wlmail.exe task then I can restart it without problems.

I don't use other Windows Live products, not even Messsenger.

This is a bug (when quitting) that definitely needs a fix.

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Old 08-16-2008   #2 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

There is a shut-down bug in WLMail that would be the cause of your problem. It occurs when "Upload Larger Images to the Web When Sending a Photo E-mail" is *un-checked*.

This option is available only when you are signed in, but if it is un-checked it still causes the shutdown bug even when not signed in.

So make sure the option "Upload Larger Images to the Web When Sending a Photo E-mail" is *checked* at: Tools->Options->Send [tab] (available only when signed into Windows Live through WLMail).

If you do find that "Upload Larger Images to the Web When Sending a Photo E-mail" is checked (which it is by default), then just uncheck it and click "Apply", then check it again and click "Apply" again.

Now, whilst this shut-down bug is due to the option "Upload Larger Images to the Web When Sending a Photo E-mail" being un-checked, in my experience, it does not manifest until a new compose window, or a saved draft has been opened. Even if the new compose window or saved draft is closed without editing, saving, sending etc., WLMail will not shut down properly.

--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"hexaae" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:4e77b8a3f10839c9fdd8b05b0a94a402@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Hello!
> My config is in the signature.
>
> I'm a new WLM user. I've always been using WM 'till the other day.
> I like WLM but I've suddenly found a bug: randomly, or to be exact
> after some time WLM is working, when I exit, the icon will still stay in
> the traybar. If I exit clicking on the traybar icon then I won't be able
> to restart it and reports an error saying that probably its files are
> locked by another program...
> If I open Task Manager I see actually wlmail.exe is still in the list
> (!!), so that's why files are locked. It's not an AV problem as it
> suggests...
> If I kill the wlmail.exe task then I can restart it without problems.
>
> I don't use other Windows Live products, not even Messsenger.
>
> This is a bug (when quitting) that definitely needs a fix.
>
>
> --
> hexaae
>
> laptop compaq/hp 'presario '
> (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...it)'f500ea'
> (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...360261&lang=it),
> vista home basic (sp1, x86, ita), 2gb ram, geforce go 6100 (forceware
> 156.87).
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #3 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium (SP1, x86, Ita)
 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

Thanks a lot!
I did uncheck that option indeed (don't want it to waste bandwitdth and sometimes I connect with my UMTS mobile with only 50MB a day).
Very competent reply, thank you again.

Why don't they fix this "known bug" then? Will do in next version?

Ciao!

Last edited by hexaae; 08-16-2008 at 07:30 AM..
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Old 08-16-2008   #4 (permalink)
Bob Lucas


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

"hexaae" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:06deae5bb714510e46e26f5f5d0b65b3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Thanks a lot!
> I did uncheck that option indeed (don't want it to waste bandwitdth
> and
> sometimes I connect with my UMTS mobile with only 50MB a day).
> Very competente reply, thank you again.
> Why don't they fix this "known bug" then? Will do in next version?
>
> Ciao!
>
>
> --
> hexaae
>
> laptop compaq/hp 'presario '
> (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...it)'f500ea'
> (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...360261&lang=it),
> vista home basic (sp1, x86, ita), 2gb ram, geforce go 6100 (forceware
> 156.87).

The response indicates the presence of an entirely different "bug" -
this time with the operation of this newsgroup.

I normally use Outlook Express to view (and contribute) to newsgroups -
and I access newsgroups via the servers at news.datemas.de and
nntp.motzarella.org.

Both servers reveal two previous messages in this thread - the original
post from hexaae and the subsequent "thank you" from hexaae. However,
the "very competent reply" is missing from both news servers.

A visit to the web-based version at
http://www.microsoft.com/communities.../default.aspx? does
show three previous posts, including the "very competent reply" from
Peter.R. A further comparison between the web-based version of this
newsgroup and the news server indicates that many posts are not
available via nntp servers.

Does anyone have an explanation for this discrepancy?


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #5 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

"Bob Lucas" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:g86g76$sh3$1@xxxxxx
....
Quote:

> The response indicates the presence of an entirely different
> "bug" - this time with the operation of this newsgroup.
>
> I normally use Outlook Express to view (and contribute) to
> newsgroups - and I access newsgroups via the servers at
> news.datemas.de and nntp.motzarella.org.
>
> Both servers reveal two previous messages in this thread - the
> original post from hexaae and the subsequent "thank you" from
> hexaae. However, the "very competent reply" is missing from both
> news servers.
>
> A visit to the web-based version at
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities.../default.aspx?
> does show three previous posts, including the "very competent
> reply" from Peter.R. A further comparison between the web-based
> version of this newsgroup and the news server indicates that many
> posts are not available via nntp servers.
>
> Does anyone have an explanation for this discrepancy?
I'm not sure, but I think it's because Peter.R encodes his posts
with base64. Google Groups doesn't archive them, either, which is a
great pity. They show up fine if you use the MS news servers:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
instead of motzarella or datemas. I use motzarella for alt groups,
but their retention is very short.
--
Noel


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Old 08-16-2008   #6 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

You're welcome hexaae. Glad to help.

The next version should appear within a month, and I am confident it will be fixed then.

This bug sure did have us confused, as it had been evident for several versions I believe. Finally the problem setting was "stumbled upon" by RonnieJP in January this year, which should steer the WLMail team in the right direction to finally rectify it.

--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"hexaae" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:06deae5bb714510e46e26f5f5d0b65b3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Thanks a lot!
> I did uncheck that option indeed (don't want it to waste bandwitdth and
> sometimes I connect with my UMTS mobile with only 50MB a day).
> Very competente reply, thank you again.
> Why don't they fix this "known bug" then? Will do in next version?
>
> Ciao!
>
>
> --
> hexaae
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #7 (permalink)
Hexaae


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

Good to hear, thank you. It's annoying when a known bug gets never fixed...

"Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:#ChNas7$IHA.4512@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You're welcome hexaae. Glad to help.
>
> The next version should appear within a month, and I am confident it will
> be fixed then.
>
> This bug sure did have us confused, as it had been evident for several
> versions I believe. Finally the problem setting was "stumbled upon" by
> RonnieJP in January this year, which should steer the WLMail team in the
> right direction to finally rectify it.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #8 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

I quoted RonnieJP's message in late December.
Regardless of whether it was January or December, hopefully it will be
fixed.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#ChNas7$IHA.4512@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You're welcome hexaae. Glad to help.
>
> The next version should appear within a month, and I am confident it will
> be fixed then.
>
> This bug sure did have us confused, as it had been evident for several
> versions I believe. Finally the problem setting was "stumbled upon" by
> RonnieJP in January this year, which should steer the WLMail team in the
> right direction to finally rectify it.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter
> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
> your philosophy." - Shakespeare
> ---------------
>
> "hexaae" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:06deae5bb714510e46e26f5f5d0b65b3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>> I did uncheck that option indeed (don't want it to waste bandwitdth and
>> sometimes I connect with my UMTS mobile with only 50MB a day).
>> Very competente reply, thank you again.
>> Why don't they fix this "known bug" then? Will do in next version?
>>
>> Ciao!
>>
>>
>> --
>> hexaae
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #9 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: [bug] WLM can't be restarted

You're right Ron, it was late December, thanks for that.

I was looking at the date of my reply to RonnieJP's announcement, which was actually quite delayed due to my holiday.

--
Cheers,
Peter
(Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#XfUEu$$IHA.5884@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I quoted RonnieJP's message in late December.
> Regardless of whether it was January or December, hopefully it will be
> fixed.
> --
> Ronald Sommer
>
> "Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#ChNas7$IHA.4512@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> You're welcome hexaae. Glad to help.
>>
>> The next version should appear within a month, and I am confident it will
>> be fixed then.
>>
>> This bug sure did have us confused, as it had been evident for several
>> versions I believe. Finally the problem setting was "stumbled upon" by
>> RonnieJP in January this year, which should steer the WLMail team in the
>> right direction to finally rectify it.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 with Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606)
>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
>> your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>> ---------------
>>
>> "hexaae" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:06deae5bb714510e46e26f5f5d0b65b3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>>>
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>> I did uncheck that option indeed (don't want it to waste bandwitdth and
>>> sometimes I connect with my UMTS mobile with only 50MB a day).
>>> Very competente reply, thank you again.
>>> Why don't they fix this "known bug" then? Will do in next version?
>>>
>>> Ciao!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> hexaae
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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