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Old 09-08-2008   #21 (permalink)
N. Miller


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:37:09 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Quote:

> ...In OE6 with Office 2003 installed.
Then the WLM spell checker isn't "far better than the one in OE6", it is
"far better" than the one in Office 2003.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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Old 09-08-2008   #22 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

Sillybuggers techno-hairsplitting.

The spellchecker functions in OE6.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:37:09 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>
Quote:

>> ...In OE6 with Office 2003 installed.
>
> Then the WLM spell checker isn't "far better than the one in OE6",
> it is
> "far better" than the one in Office 2003.

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Old 09-08-2008   #23 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

Sillybuggers techno-hairsplitting.

We're all aware the spellchecker is actually in Office 2003 and OE
piggybacks on it -- but not on the one in Office 2007.

I'm interested in functionality -- not specious techno-hairsplitting.

The "Check my spelling as I type" function in WLM is useful.

That having been said, the spellchecker in WLM needs to be improved
and upgraded to include every word in the OED.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:37:09 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>
Quote:

>> ...In OE6 with Office 2003 installed.
>
> Then the WLM spell checker isn't "far better than the one in OE6",
> it is "far better" than the one in Office 2003.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-08-2008   #24 (permalink)
Earle Horton


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Sillybuggers techno-hairsplitting.
>
> We're all aware the spellchecker is actually in Office 2003 and OE
> piggybacks on it -- but not on the one in Office 2007.
>
> I'm interested in functionality -- not specious techno-hairsplitting.
>
> The "Check my spelling as I type" function in WLM is useful.
The "check my spelling as I type" function is not part of the spell checker,
but part of the interface in WLM. The Office 2003 spell checker is fully
capable of this feature, but OE doesn't use it. How's that for
techno-hairsplitting?
Quote:

>
> That having been said, the spellchecker in WLM needs to be improved and
> upgraded to include every word in the OED.
The DRAE, Merriam-Webster's, Athos Espíndola's "Diccionario del lunfardo"
and a thousand other dictionaries need to be incorporated too. It's not
just about you Islanders, you know.

I don't know the details, but WLM uses the dictionaries from Office 2003,
yesterday's technology or more properly technology from ten years ago. It
is naive in the extreme to think that anyone is going to update them. For
whatever reason, the Office team decided to update their dictionary
technology, and the mail team decided to stop using the files in the
"Microsoft Shared" directory. As a customer, this leaves you with some
uncomfortable choices. That's the way it is.

Earle
Quote:

> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
> Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
>
> "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eqhcswjko5zb$.dlg@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:37:09 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> ...In OE6 with Office 2003 installed.
>>
>> Then the WLM spell checker isn't "far better than the one in OE6",
>> it is "far better" than the one in Office 2003.
>
>

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Old 09-08-2008   #25 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

"Earle Horton" <earleh_nospam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23EH$f3XEJHA.1460@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Sillybuggers techno-hairsplitting.
>>
>> We're all aware the spellchecker is actually in Office 2003 and OE
>> piggybacks on it -- but not on the one in Office 2007.
>>
>> I'm interested in functionality -- not specious
>> techno-hairsplitting.
>>
>> The "Check my spelling as I type" function in WLM is useful.
>
> The "check my spelling as I type" function is not part of the spell
> checker, but part of the interface in WLM. The Office 2003 spell
> checker is fully capable of this feature, but OE doesn't use it.
> How's that for techno-hairsplitting?
<G> Enlightening, in a nerdish sort of way. Be that as it may, WLM
needs to stand on its own -- with a 21st Century Spellchecker.
Quote:
Quote:

>> That having been said, the spellchecker in WLM needs to be improved
>> and upgraded to include every word in the OED.
>
> The DRAE, Merriam-Webster's, Athos Espíndola's "Diccionario del
> lunfardo" and a thousand other dictionaries need to be incorporated
> too. It's not just about you Islanders, you know.
Twaddle. Start with the Queen's English in the OED -- then move on.
Quote:

> I don't know the details, but WLM uses the dictionaries from Office
> 2003, yesterday's technology or more properly technology from ten
> years ago. It is naive in the extreme to think that anyone is going
> to update them.
Whatever, the dictionaries are inadequate and omit many words.
Quote:

>For whatever reason, the Office team decided to update their
>dictionary technology, and the mail team decided to stop using the
>files in the "Microsoft Shared" directory. As a customer, this
>leaves you with some uncomfortable choices. That's the way it is.
I don't twig to "uncomfortable choices" and will take my dollar
elsewhere if they don't get off their duffs and improve the spellcheck
features -- including the dictionaries. It's an obvious improvement
to WLM even the dullest programmer should think of.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-08-2008   #26 (permalink)
N. Miller


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:06:37 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Quote:

> Sillybuggers techno-hairsplitting.
>
> The spellchecker functions in OE6.
Inexact descriptions lead to erroneous conclusions. You are still wrong.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-08-2008   #27 (permalink)
Earle Horton


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Earle Horton" <earleh_nospam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OD$DZmcEJHA.224@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23EH$f3XEJHA.1460@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Sillybuggers techno-hairsplitting.
>>>
>>> We're all aware the spellchecker is actually in Office 2003 and OE
>>> piggybacks on it -- but not on the one in Office 2007.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in functionality -- not specious techno-hairsplitting.
>>>
>>> The "Check my spelling as I type" function in WLM is useful.
>>
>> The "check my spelling as I type" function is not part of the spell
>> checker, but part of the interface in WLM. The Office 2003 spell checker
>> is fully capable of this feature, but OE doesn't use it. How's that for
>> techno-hairsplitting?
>
> <G> Enlightening, in a nerdish sort of way. Be that as it may, WLM needs
> to stand on its own -- with a 21st Century Spellchecker.
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> That having been said, the spellchecker in WLM needs to be improved and
>>> upgraded to include every word in the OED.
>>
>> The DRAE, Merriam-Webster's, Athos Espíndola's "Diccionario del lunfardo"
>> and a thousand other dictionaries need to be incorporated too. It's not
>> just about you Islanders, you know.
>
> Twaddle. Start with the Queen's English in the OED -- then move on.
Fowler's King's English and Oxford English Dictionary are two different
publications. One is a rather pompous, egotistical but nevertheless
well-written guide to English usage. The other is a dictionary. "Queen's
English" refers to an artificial mode of pronunciation that is taught in
British Public Schools, otherwise known as "received standard
pronunciation". In that sense it is little more than a socially restricted
accent and therefore irrelevant to the instant discussion. There is no
"dictionary of the Queen's English".

«General Principles

ANY one who wishes to become a good writer should endeavour, before he
allows himself to be tempted by the more showy qualities, to be direct,
simple, brief, vigorous, and lucid.

This general principle may be translated into practical rules in the domain
of vocabulary as follows:-

Prefer the familiar word to the far-fetched.
Prefer the concrete word to the abstract.
Prefer the single word to the circumlocution.
Prefer the short word to the long.
Prefer the Saxon word to the Romance.»

H.W. Fowler, "The King's English", SECOND EDITION, OXFORD: CLARENDON PRESS,
1908, NEW YORK: BARTLEBY.COM, 1999

Keeping Mr. Fowler's principles in mind the entries in the WLM dictionary
are more than adequate for an informal means of communication such as email.
Quote:

>
Quote:

>> I don't know the details, but WLM uses the dictionaries from Office 2003,
>> yesterday's technology or more properly technology from ten years ago.
>> It is naive in the extreme to think that anyone is going to update them.
>
> Whatever, the dictionaries are inadequate and omit many words.
See comment above.
Quote:

>
Quote:

>>For whatever reason, the Office team decided to update their dictionary
>>technology, and the mail team decided to stop using the files in the
>>"Microsoft Shared" directory. As a customer, this leaves you with some
>>uncomfortable choices. That's the way it is.
>
> I don't twig to "uncomfortable choices" and will take my dollar elsewhere
> if they don't get off their duffs and improve the spellcheck features --
> including the dictionaries. It's an obvious improvement to WLM even the
> dullest programmer should think of.
See comment above. "Twig" as a verb is not Queen's English. Seriously, I
don't know your point in posting here. Microsoft employees do not read this
forum and if they do, they most certainly do not take any of the posts
seriously. A well written (see comment above) epistle to the feedback page
will do more than any of your posts to this newsgroup has ever done. There
are also copyright considerations, perhaps preventing incorporation of the
entire contents of the OED, Merriam-Webster's or any other "twaddle"
dictionary in the WLM spelling checker.

You really have convinced quite a number of people here that you are, if not
insane, at least obsessed. See the entry for "perseveration" in the OED.

Cheers,

Earle
Quote:

> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-08-2008   #28 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

"Earle Horton" <earleh_nospam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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<baldersnip>

[Further Twaddle, Balderdash, Codswallop & Detritus Deleted]

'Nuff Said.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-08-2008   #29 (permalink)
Earle Horton


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

Look up "perseveration" in the OED. As long as you do that, no one is going
to take you seriously.

Cheers,

Earle

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Earle Horton" <earleh_nospam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:equgV8hEJHA.4948@xxxxxx
>
> <baldersnip>
>
> [Further Twaddle, Balderdash, Codswallop & Detritus Deleted]
>
> 'Nuff Said.
> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
> Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-08-2008   #30 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Security Features In WLM & Spellchecker

Pogue Horton needs to look up _ragamuffin_ in the OED...

And assume the moniker.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"Earle Horton" <earleh_nospam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Look up "perseveration" in the OED. As long as you do that, no one
> is going to take you seriously.

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