Vista - Watched messages

In Tools>Options>Advanced, I have selected "Mark message threads I start
as "Watched"".

If I start a new thread, my first post duly appears in read and has the
"Watched" icon by it.

The option clearly says "threads", not first post.

However, the subsequent posts do not have this.

Therefore, in the view "Hide read messages", it is not immediately
obvious what replies are relevant to my original post.

Is this a known problem or am I missing another setting?

View, Current view, Show all messages and Show replies to my messages.
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Ronald Sommer

"Smirnoff" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EFDB0AD4-23A1-4A7D-9A4B-F4E1F07CEE39@xxxxxx

"Smirnoff" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EFDB0AD4-23A1-4A7D-9A4B-F4E1F07CEE39@xxxxxxOthers have reported it and claim it is reproducible...

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...75c&sloc=en-us

(Last post from Erhard Glueck in our disjointed discussion titled
"unread attended attributes"
Tip: use that quoted expression as a search argument to see a list
of all the posts for the whole discussion.)


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Oc2Qhj2EJHA.3996@xxxxxxI tried to send this reply yesterday but it failed to appear:

"Thanks, I have been advised that I need to actually download my OP to
enable the attribute to be carried forward for replies.

Also, I have now Synchronised ALL in my NGs.

I'll see if this makes any difference.

Not quite sure why I would want to reproduce the error/bug. "

"Smirnoff" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B20A8808-8D2A-41A4-BA76-818A20D2B82B@xxxxxx
Because you don't have a "bug" unless your symptom is reliably reproducible
or at least easily explained. ; )

BTW please note that my suggestion to use Synchronize All to avoid a problem
associated with the Watched feature is a carryover from experience with OE
where I once took the trouble to diagnose the cause of a symptom of missing
messages, which I subsequently facetiously referred to as OE's "Loose Catch-Up"
feechur. That bug was supposed to have been fixed in later patches to OE6sp2
but seems to have been regressed in the port of OE code that WLMail. represents.

The feature that you are trying to use is new in WLMail and I have only been speculating
on what its implementation might be or what the consequences of a possible implementation
might be. I suspect Noel is similarly guessing that the implementation is rule based.
If you are really interested in this you could try checking if that is the actual implementation.
E.g. checking the option may then just add a canned rule that the user might have coded
manually. That would have been how OE users would have to try to implement the same
functionality.

Marking opening posts Watched for threads started by the user by a rule is easily imagined.
Getting subsequent responses to that posts marked as Watched by the normal propagation
of that attribute is also easily imagined. But if that first message does not arrive before
its replies (e.g. their headers all arrive in the same XOVER) I can imagine that that case
could be problematic. I have not done the necessary testing and analysis on WLMail.
I have been hoping that someone else who has more of an interest in this feature will step up
and do it for all of us. ; )


FYI

Robert
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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Robert, you may have seen my other posts regarding this. I am pleased to
say that the problem now appears to be fixed.

I am assuming that this is because I have set synchronisation to "All
messages" and have unticked "Use newsgroup Communities support
features".

The reason I say this is because my other two threads "Watched messages"
and "Is there a problem with this NG's server?", still do not carry on
the watched attribute when replied to (including your latest post).

However, after making above changes, in the thread "Ping: Noel Ildhund
re: watched messages", all replies are marked as watched, even though I
still have view set to "Hide read messages".

Thanks very much for your help and advice.

"Smirnoff" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OFNvbbCFJHA.3288@xxxxxx
Synchronize All Messages just means that you get all the headers
and all the bodies using the same manual operation. The Watched attribute
should be associated with the header and in fact, having a header marked
Watched and using a synchronize command has the same effect as using
All Messages or just marking those particular messages for download.
So I doubt that additionally using All Messages as a synchronization method
is going to having any effect on your original problem symptom.


That feature's a mystery to me. Eliminating the effects of that feature
would at least set things back closer to the original implementation.


So, it's almost as if that message isn't really marked Watched then?
It just looks as if it is but because it isn't really it won't propagate?
BTW what happens if you copy such a thread to new local folder?
E.g. is the Watched attribute on the first message lost? Watched attributes
finally given to its replies?

Also, in the course of re-reading this thread I took the time to analyse
Erhard's trace and can see that it would certainly be an example of
what you are seeing, even when the first message and its replies
are seen in separate transactions.


You're welcome.

Robert
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