(My comment: I just installed the live suite, but not all of it. The movie
maker live seemed too limited to me and I didn't want the toolbar and
parenting program. But as far as I can see, live mail and the messenger and
writer are very good, stable etc. They also fixed the colors of the toolbars
in live writer and live mail, so that's a plus. The messenger seems a little
awkward, perhaps its not streamlined yet since this is still a beta. I will
use the new calendar for sure along with the new outlook plugin, in fact I
was looking for such a thing recently!!!
So you see to all your naysayers... I welcome change and new things, as long
as they are good. This is in contrast with vista that was crap.. and now has
slightly improved so its bearable with SP1 )


http://www.liveside.net/main/archive...nload-now.aspx

New Windows Live Betas - Download Wave 3 Now! (Updated With International
Goodness)

With the Windows Live Wave 3 beta due to start today, we thought we'd
provide our readers with a small headstart on the rest of the world. Here's
the download links for the new Wave 3 suite of applications, including
Messenger v9, Windows Live Movie Maker, Mail with Calendar synchronisation,
Writer, Photo Gallery, Family Safety and the Outlook Connector. For the
paranoid amongst you, yes the files are hosted on download.microsoft.com.

http://www.liveside.net/main/archive...nload-now.aspx

Just to add to this. Please remember that this is beta software. There is no
guarantee that this is stable, all the features will work as expected etc.
Please use at your own risk. That saying, it should give you a good idea of
what changes have been made to WLM.

Colin Brown
WL MVP

"Theory of Everything" <Callme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:48d11495$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

> (My comment: I just installed the live suite, but not all of it. The
> movie
> maker live seemed too limited to me and I didn't want the toolbar and
> parenting program. But as far as I can see, live mail and the messenger
> and
> writer are very good, stable etc. They also fixed the colors of the
> toolbars
> in live writer and live mail, so that's a plus. The messenger seems a
> little
> awkward, perhaps its not streamlined yet since this is still a beta. I
> will
> use the new calendar for sure along with the new outlook plugin, in fact I
> was looking for such a thing recently!!!
> So you see to all your naysayers... I welcome change and new things, as
> long
> as they are good. This is in contrast with vista that was crap.. and now
> has
> slightly improved so its bearable with SP1 )
>
>
> http://www.liveside.net/main/archive...nload-now.aspx
>
> New Windows Live Betas - Download Wave 3 Now! (Updated With International
> Goodness)
>
> With the Windows Live Wave 3 beta due to start today, we thought we'd
> provide our readers with a small headstart on the rest of the world.
> Here's
> the download links for the new Wave 3 suite of applications, including
> Messenger v9, Windows Live Movie Maker, Mail with Calendar
> synchronisation,
> Writer, Photo Gallery, Family Safety and the Outlook Connector. For the
> paranoid amongst you, yes the files are hosted on download.microsoft.com.
>
> http://www.liveside.net/main/archive...nload-now.aspx
>
>

installed and works OK so far.

However, the Message Header is still huge. Why can't that be made like it
was in OE. Also the find message bar is even bigger now and can't be hidden.
I think these were features requested by many user and were not addresses.

Please give us more customization. I'm using Windows Live mail with a 12.1"
Laptop so I don't want this huge message header or find message search take
away precious screen real estate.

Otherwise I do really like Windows Live mail as it works great.

WLM/Help/Send Feedback (web)
or
https://feedback.live.com/eform.aspx...me_form&scrx=1

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"BuonaDomenica" <BuonaDomenica@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:30B43382-D678-43B0-A852-0A1F57EEA479@xxxxxx

> installed and works OK so far.
>
> However, the Message Header is still huge. Why can't that be made like it
> was in OE. Also the find message bar is even bigger now and can't be hidden.
> I think these were features requested by many user and were not addresses.
>
> Please give us more customization. I'm using Windows Live mail with a 12.1"
> Laptop so I don't want this huge message header or find message search take
> away precious screen real estate.
>
> Otherwise I do really like Windows Live mail as it works great.

Colin, Good warning, but you forget to mention the biggest buggiest most
bloated piece of software ever made: Vista is at SP1 and still there is no
guarantee its stable.. in fact the chances are that it will be unstable! lol

Since vista, MS quality has gone down the drain... since everything after
the vista era is of beta quality, another beta wouldn't harm that much.. lol



"Colin Brown WLMVP" <Hackersoft1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:87637AAA-A697-44DD-86B3-C34A1D24E54C@xxxxxx

> Just to add to this. Please remember that this is beta software. There is
> no guarantee that this is stable, all the features will work as expected
> etc.
> Please use at your own risk. That saying, it should give you a good idea
> of what changes have been made to WLM.
>
> Colin Brown
> WL MVP
>
> "Theory of Everything" <Callme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:48d11495$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

>> (My comment: I just installed the live suite, but not all of it. The
>> movie
>> maker live seemed too limited to me and I didn't want the toolbar and
>> parenting program. But as far as I can see, live mail and the messenger
>> and
>> writer are very good, stable etc. They also fixed the colors of the
>> toolbars
>> in live writer and live mail, so that's a plus. The messenger seems a
>> little
>> awkward, perhaps its not streamlined yet since this is still a beta. I
>> will
>> use the new calendar for sure along with the new outlook plugin, in fact
>> I
>> was looking for such a thing recently!!!
>> So you see to all your naysayers... I welcome change and new things, as
>> long
>> as they are good. This is in contrast with vista that was crap.. and now
>> has
>> slightly improved so its bearable with SP1 )
>>
>>
>> http://www.liveside.net/main/archive...nload-now.aspx
>>
>> New Windows Live Betas - Download Wave 3 Now! (Updated With International
>> Goodness)
>>
>> With the Windows Live Wave 3 beta due to start today, we thought we'd
>> provide our readers with a small headstart on the rest of the world.
>> Here's
>> the download links for the new Wave 3 suite of applications, including
>> Messenger v9, Windows Live Movie Maker, Mail with Calendar
>> synchronisation,
>> Writer, Photo Gallery, Family Safety and the Outlook Connector. For the
>> paranoid amongst you, yes the files are hosted on download.microsoft.com.
>>
>> http://www.liveside.net/main/archive...nload-now.aspx
>>
>>

Does it install over the existing WLM (12.0.1606) or should I uninstall first?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"BuonaDomenica" <BuonaDomenica@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:30B43382-D678-43B0-A852-0A1F57EEA479@xxxxxx

> installed and works OK so far.
>
> However, the Message Header is still huge. Why can't that be made like it
> was in OE. Also the find message bar is even bigger now and can't be hidden.
> I think these were features requested by many user and were not addresses.
>
> Please give us more customization. I'm using Windows Live mail with a 12.1"
> Laptop so I don't want this huge message header or find message search take
> away precious screen real estate.
>
> Otherwise I do really like Windows Live mail as it works great.

I installed it right over - no problems

"Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#UEvLMPGJHA.3396@xxxxxx
Does it install over the existing WLM (12.0.1606) or should I uninstall
first?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"BuonaDomenica" <BuonaDomenica@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:30B43382-D678-43B0-A852-0A1F57EEA479@xxxxxx

> installed and works OK so far.
>
> However, the Message Header is still huge. Why can't that be made like it
> was in OE. Also the find message bar is even bigger now and can't be
> hidden.
> I think these were features requested by many user and were not addresses.
>
> Please give us more customization. I'm using Windows Live mail with a
> 12.1"
> Laptop so I don't want this huge message header or find message search
> take
> away precious screen real estate.
>
> Otherwise I do really like Windows Live mail as it works great.

OK, done. First looks of the new build aren't all that impressive.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"BChat" <BChat@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e63lKbPGJHA.768@xxxxxx

>I installed it right over - no problems
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#UEvLMPGJHA.3396@xxxxxx
> Does it install over the existing WLM (12.0.1606) or should I uninstall
> first?
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "BuonaDomenica" <BuonaDomenica@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:30B43382-D678-43B0-A852-0A1F57EEA479@xxxxxx

>> installed and works OK so far.
>>
>> However, the Message Header is still huge. Why can't that be made like it
>> was in OE. Also the find message bar is even bigger now and can't be
>> hidden.
>> I think these were features requested by many user and were not addresses.
>>
>> Please give us more customization. I'm using Windows Live mail with a
>> 12.1"
>> Laptop so I don't want this huge message header or find message search
>> take
>> away precious screen real estate.
>>
>> Otherwise I do really like Windows Live mail as it works great.

>

I cannot believe the no-icon toolbar :-(
The calendar is there :-)
I am sending feedback each time I find something I don't like - it is the
least I can do ;-)

BChat


"Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:esDcEvPGJHA.4460@xxxxxx
OK, done. First looks of the new build aren't all that impressive.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"BChat" <BChat@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e63lKbPGJHA.768@xxxxxx

>I installed it right over - no problems
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#UEvLMPGJHA.3396@xxxxxx
> Does it install over the existing WLM (12.0.1606) or should I uninstall
> first?
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "BuonaDomenica" <BuonaDomenica@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:30B43382-D678-43B0-A852-0A1F57EEA479@xxxxxx

>> installed and works OK so far.
>>
>> However, the Message Header is still huge. Why can't that be made like it
>> was in OE. Also the find message bar is even bigger now and can't be
>> hidden.
>> I think these were features requested by many user and were not
>> addresses.
>>
>> Please give us more customization. I'm using Windows Live mail with a
>> 12.1"
>> Laptop so I don't want this huge message header or find message search
>> take
>> away precious screen real estate.
>>
>> Otherwise I do really like Windows Live mail as it works great.

>

http://download.live.com/


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Theory of Everything" <Callme@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:48d11495$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

>
> link snipped

New Windows Live Betas - Download Wave 3 Now!