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Old 09-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
osu9400


 
 

weird newsgroup behavior

Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I was under the
impression they were not posting at all, but that might not be the case.

For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about the Beta
Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post just fine. However, it
never appeared in my message window. Now for the strange part. Even though
it never appeared, .Chris replied to it and I can see his reply!! Can
someone explain what is happening?

I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My fear is that
someone is seeing every time I post.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #2 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

I was about to ask you the same question, because I saw .Chris's
reply but not your OP. It's there on the web, though. Try switching
off those ridiculous Communities newsgroup support features at
Options > General - that'll probably put things right.
--
Noel

"osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I was
> under the impression they were not posting at all, but that might
> not be the case.
>
> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about the
> Beta Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post just
> fine. However, it never appeared in my message window. Now for the
> strange part. Even though it never appeared, .Chris replied to it
> and I can see his reply!! Can someone explain what is happening?
>
> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My
> fear is that someone is seeing every time I post.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #3 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen either.

I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did you use
that also for that post or did you use WLM as you did for this post?

The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch
sometimes. And so messages might be visible on one and not the other.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I was under
> the impression they were not posting at all, but that might not be the
> case.
>
> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about the Beta
> Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post just fine.
> However, it never appeared in my message window. Now for the strange
> part. Even though it never appeared, .Chris replied to it and I can
> see his reply!! Can someone explain what is happening?
>
> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My fear is
> that someone is seeing every time I post.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #4 (permalink)
osu9400


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior



"osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:C4A77AD4-C53C-477A-A74A-83F813AB3CBD@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I only use WLM for my NNTP posting.
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eKET9aOHJHA.1940@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen either.
>>
>> I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did you use that
>> also for that post or did you use WLM as you did for this post?
>>
>> The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch sometimes.
>> And so messages might be visible on one and not the other.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I was under
>>> the impression they were not posting at all, but that might not be the
>>> case.
>>>
>>> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about the Beta
>>> Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post just fine. However,
>>> it never appeared in my message window. Now for the strange part. Even
>>> though it never appeared, .Chris replied to it and I can see his reply!!
>>> Can someone explain what is happening?
>>>
>>> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My fear is
>>> that someone is seeing every time I post.
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-23-2008   #5 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

Did your problem go away after switching off the Communities
feature?
--
Noel

"osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uFT#yAQHJHA.944@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
>
> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:C4A77AD4-C53C-477A-A74A-83F813AB3CBD@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I only use WLM for my NNTP posting.
>>
>>
>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:eKET9aOHJHA.1940@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen either.
>>>
>>> I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did you
>>> use that also for that post or did you use WLM as you did for
>>> this post?
>>>
>>> The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch
>>> sometimes. And so messages might be visible on one and not the
>>> other.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
>>>> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I
>>>> was under the impression they were not posting at all, but that
>>>> might not be the case.
>>>>
>>>> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about
>>>> the Beta Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post
>>>> just fine. However, it never appeared in my message window. Now
>>>> for the strange part. Even though it never appeared, .Chris
>>>> replied to it and I can see his reply!! Can someone explain
>>>> what is happening?
>>>>
>>>> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My
>>>> fear is that someone is seeing every time I post.
>>>
>>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-23-2008   #6 (permalink)
osu9400


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

It seems to be working now (assuming this message posts correctly).

What is that feature for anyway and why is it blocking posts?



"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#$fKPlVHJHA.3548@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Did your problem go away after switching off the Communities feature?
> --
> Noel
>
> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uFT#yAQHJHA.944@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>>
>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:C4A77AD4-C53C-477A-A74A-83F813AB3CBD@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I only use WLM for my NNTP posting.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eKET9aOHJHA.1940@xxxxxx
>>>> I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen either.
>>>>
>>>> I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did you use
>>>> that also for that post or did you use WLM as you did for this post?
>>>>
>>>> The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch
>>>> sometimes. And so messages might be visible on one and not the other.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
>>>>> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I was under
>>>>> the impression they were not posting at all, but that might not be the
>>>>> case.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about the Beta
>>>>> Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post just fine.
>>>>> However, it never appeared in my message window. Now for the strange
>>>>> part. Even though it never appeared, .Chris replied to it and I can
>>>>> see his reply!! Can someone explain what is happening?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My fear is
>>>>> that someone is seeing every time I post.
>>>>
>>>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-23-2008   #7 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

The Communities feature is related to the web interface. It allows
people to rate the usefulness of other people's posts and have your
posts rated as well.

There's a bug in the feature when used from NNTP that causes some posts
to get lost. Microsoft has been working on this for a few months and
has not quite nailed the problem down.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ejhN5ybHJHA.3736@xxxxxx
Quote:

> It seems to be working now (assuming this message posts correctly).
>
> What is that feature for anyway and why is it blocking posts?
>
>
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#$fKPlVHJHA.3548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Did your problem go away after switching off the Communities feature?
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uFT#yAQHJHA.944@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>
>>>
>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:C4A77AD4-C53C-477A-A74A-83F813AB3CBD@xxxxxx
>>>> I only use WLM for my NNTP posting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:eKET9aOHJHA.1940@xxxxxx
>>>>> I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did you
>>>>> use that also for that post or did you use WLM as you did for this
>>>>> post?
>>>>>
>>>>> The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch
>>>>> sometimes. And so messages might be visible on one and not the
>>>>> other.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
>>>>>> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I was
>>>>>> under the impression they were not posting at all, but that might
>>>>>> not be the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about the
>>>>>> Beta Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post just
>>>>>> fine. However, it never appeared in my message window. Now for
>>>>>> the strange part. Even though it never appeared, .Chris replied
>>>>>> to it and I can see his reply!! Can someone explain what is
>>>>>> happening?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group. My
>>>>>> fear is that someone is seeing every time I post.
>>>>>
>>>>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-24-2008   #8 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

Read all about it at
http://www.microsoft.com/library/gal...oINeedToSignIn
It only blocks posts when it's not working properly, which seems to
be quite often. If you look at the message IDs below, you will see
that messages posted with the feature enabled take the form
{GUID}@microsoft.com. Plain NNTP postings have IDs with a domain in
the form TKxMSFTNGPxx.phx.gbl.
--
Noel

"osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ejhN5ybHJHA.3736@xxxxxx
Quote:

> It seems to be working now (assuming this message posts
> correctly).
>
> What is that feature for anyway and why is it blocking posts?
Quote:

> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#$fKPlVHJHA.3548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Did your problem go away after switching off the Communities
>> feature?
Quote:
Quote:

>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uFT#yAQHJHA.944@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>
>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:C4A77AD4-C53C-477A-A74A-83F813AB3CBD@xxxxxx
>>>> I only use WLM for my NNTP posting.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in
>>>> message news:eKET9aOHJHA.1940@xxxxxx
>>>>> I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did
>>>>> you use that also for that post or did you use WLM as you did
>>>>> for this post?
>>>>>
>>>>> The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch
>>>>> sometimes. And so messages might be visible on one and not the
>>>>> other.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
>>>>>> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I
>>>>>> was under the impression they were not posting at all, but
>>>>>> that might not be the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about
>>>>>> the Beta Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post
>>>>>> just fine. However, it never appeared in my message window.
>>>>>> Now for the strange part. Even though it never appeared,
>>>>>> .Chris replied to it and I can see his reply!! Can someone
>>>>>> explain what is happening?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group.
>>>>>> My fear is that someone is seeing every time I post.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-24-2008   #9 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: weird newsgroup behavior

Which reminds me:
Newsgroup messages posted via WLMail with the Communities
feature enabled, and messages posted via the web interface, both
hide the IP address of the sender. This is a big handicap when
attempting to help some newbie who doesn't know the name of
their ISP. I can use the IP address to find their ISP.
Microsoft, please fix this!

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23MiF8UoHJHA.3960@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Read all about it at
> http://www.microsoft.com/library/gal...oINeedToSignIn
> It only blocks posts when it's not working properly, which seems to
> be quite often. If you look at the message IDs below, you will see
> that messages posted with the feature enabled take the form
> {GUID}@microsoft.com. Plain NNTP postings have IDs with a domain in
> the form TKxMSFTNGPxx.phx.gbl.
> --
> Noel
>
> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ejhN5ybHJHA.3736@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> It seems to be working now (assuming this message posts
>> correctly).
>>
>> What is that feature for anyway and why is it blocking posts?
>
Quote:

>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#$fKPlVHJHA.3548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Did your problem go away after switching off the Communities
>>> feature?
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:uFT#yAQHJHA.944@xxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:C4A77AD4-C53C-477A-A74A-83F813AB3CBD@xxxxxx
>>>>> I only use WLM for my NNTP posting.
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>> message news:eKET9aOHJHA.1940@xxxxxx
>>>>>> I don't see your original post on the Beta splash screen
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see that .Chris used the web interface for his reply. Did
>>>>>> you use that also for that post or did you use WLM as you did
>>>>>> for this post?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The web interface and the NNTP news server do get out-of-synch
>>>>>> sometimes. And so messages might be visible on one and not the
>>>>>> other.
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>>>> "osu9400" <osu9400@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:A02E1AF4-B8C4-4750-B985-3960EC4BB98F@xxxxxx
>>>>>>> Why do some messages I post not appear in this newsgroup? I
>>>>>>> was under the impression they were not posting at all, but
>>>>>>> that might not be the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example, I attempted to post a message this morning about
>>>>>>> the Beta Splash Screen. I created it and it appeared to post
>>>>>>> just fine. However, it never appeared in my message window.
>>>>>>> Now for the strange part. Even though it never appeared,
>>>>>>> .Chris replied to it and I can see his reply!! Can someone
>>>>>>> explain what is happening?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've re-posted several messages here and in the WLPG group.
>>>>>>> My fear is that someone is seeing every time I post.
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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