Vista - Solve a CAPTCHA to send mail?!

Why am I asked to type characters as a confirmation when sending mail? It
says that's to prevent automated programs from sending mail/spam.

I could see this if WLM detects I'm sending a lot, but I've only sent 1
email this week, and that was it. Outlook has had a detection feature that
would blog automated actions for years and years!

If I have to type a confirmation every time, I'll move back to gmail online
and gears for local access.


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Shawn Keene
shawn.keene@xxxxxx

I've never seen a CAPTCHA challenge in WLM.
Something else is doing that, perhaps your antivirus or
anti-spyware program.

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Shawn Keene" <shawn.keene@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:18BA0F90-C551-402E-84C6-89C4C1F98AA5@xxxxxx

Logon to Hotmail via mail.live.com and enter the appropriate characters when prompted.

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...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Shawn Keene" <shawn.keene@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:18BA0F90-C551-402E-84C6-89C4C1F98AA5@xxxxxx

So, Hotmail does that, even in WLMail?
I've never come across it, but then I don't use Hotmail for email.
Another reason for me to avoid it.

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Olh%23x7kMJHA.5232@xxxxxx

Shawn Keene wrote:
CAPTCHA is *not* a function in WLM. Something ELSE is showing a message
(that you didn't provide here) telling you to enter the CAPTCHA.

Could be the occasional intervening security web page that shows up when
logging onto a freebie webmail account. They want to check if a human
is using that freebie account. The client is probably not coded to
handle the intervention. You have to use the webmail interface to your
e-mail account to see the intervening security page, enter the CAPTCHA
code, and get logged in. Your local e-mail client will work thereafter
until whenever someday later they decide to stick in that intervening
security web page during login.

Could be you sent e-mail to someone that is an irresponsible and lazy
a^^hole by using challenge-response to eliminate. They dump their
unknown sender e-mails back at what they *think* is the sender to have
them qualify they are a human by sending back the characters in a
CAPTCHA image. Since such recipients that use the C-R scheme have no
proof of who is the real sender of an e-mail, they'll send challenges
for spam back at invalid accounts (wasting resources at the domains to
check if the challenge is deliverable) or slam innocents with their
challenge (because the spammer used the e-mail of someone else).
Because they send challenges out as fast as they receive spam, they are
themselves spammers (i.e., they spew out challenge-spam). As such, they
qualify to be reported to the public DNS blacklists to get themselves
blocked by anyone using those blacklists.

I am not yet certain WLM means Windows Live Mail and really present or in use, i.e. It could mean WLMsgr(which many refer to as
WLM) which can logon an open Hotmail.


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...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eT1pKflMJHA.5840@xxxxxx

Sorry forgot to paste from the Hotmail help.
Cont'd
<qp>
Type letters and numbers from a picture
When you try to sign in to Windows Live Hotmail or to send an e-mail message, you may see a message stating that you must pass a
random check to confirm that your account is valid, and be presented with a picture containing distorted letters and numbers. This
is a Human Interface Proof (HIP) challenge, and is used to help fight junk e-mail (Unwanted, unsolicited, or illicit e-mail or
other electronic messages, including spam.) by confirming that a person, rather than an automated program, is trying to access the
page.
</qp>


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...winston
ms-mvp mail

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OPa#T5nMJHA.740@xxxxxx

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:37:09 -0500, Shawn Keene wrote:
As others have stated, WLMail does not offer CAPTCHA images when sending
email. WLMail is a client, like MS Outlook Express, and neither have that
capability built in.
If you could be more specific; WLM as in, "Windows Live Mail", or "Windows
Live Messenger".
What is "gears"? Do you mean this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gears_(software)

Why ever would you need that for Google Mail? Mozilla Thunderbird works just
fine. Unless you are a "web oriented" person, in which case, you don't
really want to use Windows Live Mail, anyway.

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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:01:41 -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
The OP mentions using Google Gears (I assume that is what he meant). I
suspect he is another end user who can't distinguish between "The Web", and
his computer.

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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum