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WLM vs Thunderbird?

  1. #1


    Don Cohen Guest

    WLM vs Thunderbird?

    I have a new Vista 64-bit Desktop, and an older XP Home Laptop, and need to
    figure out a solution to maintain email and address
    book in synch on both systems. Previously, my Desktop was XP Home as well,
    and I used Outlook Express on both, doing a periodic copy of the .dbx and
    ..wab files to keep the Laptop updated. With the new Vista Desktop, that's
    no longer an option.

    One alternative is to switch to a new email client that is compatible with
    both. Windows Live Mail has been suggested, but as I've researched this
    topic, Mozilla Thunderbird also seems to deserve consideration.

    I don't want to start a war here, as I imagine many people have strong
    feelings, but is there any consensus on the relative strengths and
    weaknesses of WLM vs. Mozilla Thunderbird?

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  3. #2


    DDW Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:47:03 -0400, "Don Cohen"
    <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote:

    >I have a new Vista 64-bit Desktop, and an older XP Home Laptop, and need to
    >figure out a solution to maintain email and address
    >book in synch on both systems. Previously, my Desktop was XP Home as well,
    >and I used Outlook Express on both, doing a periodic copy of the .dbx and
    >.wab files to keep the Laptop updated. With the new Vista Desktop, that's
    >no longer an option.
    >
    >One alternative is to switch to a new email client that is compatible with
    >both. Windows Live Mail has been suggested, but as I've researched this
    >topic, Mozilla Thunderbird also seems to deserve consideration.
    Up until about a week ago I used Outlook 2003 on both my notebook and
    my desktop and moved .PST files back and forth to keep things in
    sync.

    For whatever reason, I decided to take a look at WLM. Liked it. Put
    it on both machines. NO SWAPPING needed for me.

    I have my desktop WLM setup to delete files from the server
    mmediately. I have my notebook set to leave them ON the server unless
    I delete them. That way my desktop can be the "master" and not lose
    anything.

    It takes some digging to find all the settings, but once you have your
    desktop all set the way you want it, then install and setup your
    notebook.

    To get your accounts into the notebook: EXPORT (File - Export) them
    from your desktop in IAF format (I think that's what it was) and then
    import them into the notebook (Tools - Accounts) - neat and clean,
    passwords included.

    If you have a lot of stored/archived email, that can be imported into
    WLM as well (it could from Outlook 2003 anyway).

    I just plain don't like Thunderbird.

    >I don't want to start a war here, as I imagine many people have strong
    >feelings, but is there any consensus on the relative strengths and
    >weaknesses of WLM vs. Mozilla Thunderbird?
    DDW
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  4. #3


    Don Cohen Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    DDW,

    "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:9fcpf45674k5nchjjbk5rqbgs57r18jrn9@xxxxxx

    > I have my desktop WLM setup to delete files from the server
    > mmediately. I have my notebook set to leave them ON the server unless
    > I delete them. That way my desktop can be the "master" and not lose
    > anything.
    That's precisely how I had my systems previously set up, when using Outlook
    Express on both.

    > I just plain don't like Thunderbird.
    Any specific complaints/issues/problems about it, or what is it about WLM
    that looks/works better for you?

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    Don

    remove "lens cap" for email


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  5. #4


    DDW Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:11:57 -0400, "Don Cohen"
    <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote:

    >DDW,
    >
    >"DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >news:9fcpf45674k5nchjjbk5rqbgs57r18jrn9@xxxxxx
    >

    >> I have my desktop WLM setup to delete files from the server
    >> mmediately. I have my notebook set to leave them ON the server unless
    >> I delete them. That way my desktop can be the "master" and not lose
    >> anything.
    >
    >That's precisely how I had my systems previously set up, when using Outlook
    >Express on both.
    >

    >> I just plain don't like Thunderbird.
    >
    >Any specific complaints/issues/problems about it, or what is it about WLM
    >that looks/works better for you?
    I like "newness", and WLM has a nice look and feel. Just install it
    and play with it. It won't take over your system. Look at how it
    handles photos and images. What you can do with really large ones
    rather than send them to folks who have slow, dialup connections.
    It is really NICE (and I'm something of a geek who just doesn't get
    turned on by "nice")

    BTW... it comes preset to do the MS newsgroups

    Thunderbird: it's too basic for my tastes. I tried it as a Usenet
    newsreader and thought it sucked compared to Agent, so a lot of my
    judgement is probably based on that.

    TRY BOTH. No matter how many opinions you get here, the final
    decision will be based on how you like what you choose.

    DDW
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  6. #5


    Gary VanderMolen Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    Thunderbird is not going to keep your Contacts synced,
    while WLM will do so automatically (if using a Live ID login).

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    Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


    "Don Cohen" <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23bU$WssMJHA.1304@xxxxxx

    >I have a new Vista 64-bit Desktop, and an older XP Home Laptop, and need to figure out a solution to maintain email and address
    > book in synch on both systems. Previously, my Desktop was XP Home as well, and I used Outlook Express on both, doing a periodic
    > copy of the .dbx and .wab files to keep the Laptop updated. With the new Vista Desktop, that's no longer an option.
    >
    > One alternative is to switch to a new email client that is compatible with both. Windows Live Mail has been suggested, but as
    > I've researched this topic, Mozilla Thunderbird also seems to deserve consideration.
    >
    > I don't want to start a war here, as I imagine many people have strong feelings, but is there any consensus on the relative
    > strengths and weaknesses of WLM vs. Mozilla Thunderbird?
    >
    > --
    > Don
    >
    > remove "lens cap" for email


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  7. #6


    Don Cohen Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    > TRY BOTH. No matter how many opinions you get here, the final

    > decision will be based on how you like what you choose.

    Thanks for the feedback. I'll need to try them in the near future. For
    now, I'm just independently downloading email to desktop and laptop, with
    both set to leave email on the server for 10 days before deleting.

    My desktop crashed almost 2 weeks ago (probably motherboard, was 6 1/2 years
    old anyway...) and so I've been swamped researching, then buying, then
    installing/configuring apps, learning 64-bit Vista, trouble-shooting, etc.
    I'm a bit weary at the moment! ;-)

    --
    Don

    remove "lens cap" for email


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    Don Cohen Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?


    "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:%23GV41ttMJHA.5060@xxxxxx

    > Thunderbird is not going to keep your Contacts synced,
    > while WLM will do so automatically (if using a Live ID login).

    I've seen this alluded to before - what's going on behind the scenes here?
    Does it keep my contact list on its servers online? I have over 700 (mainly
    a mailing list for my website), and wonder if this will be cumbersome.

    Is this also connected with Hotmail? I have to be honest I am leery of
    "getting into bed" too much with Microsoft, as their stuff tends to be
    intrusive and hard to get rid of (e.g. the old Messenger issue, where they
    made it tough to turn off). All other things being equal, I'd just as soon
    not to have yet another email address (let alone a Hotmail one), unless I'm
    missing something important here.

    Thanks.

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    Don

    remove "lens cap" for email


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  9. #8


    BuonaDomenica Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?



    "Don Cohen" wrote:

    > Is this also connected with Hotmail?
    Yes, Windows Live Mail works great with Hotmail. Just don't install the
    latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail and you will be fine.

    I'm checking three hotmail accounts through Windows Live Mail and I never
    look back at Outlook Express. There are a few annoyances such as the huge
    message header but these are minor.

    here is the link to the older installer for Windows Live mail
    http://filehippo.com/download_msn_me...c4184520b4e88/

    hope you will get a chance to try it out.

    BD

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    Don Cohen Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    Thanks, BD.

    "BuonaDomenica" <BuonaDomenica@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:BB0566A8-6332-46AC-A72D-4AFE19FFC261@xxxxxx

    > Yes, Windows Live Mail works great with Hotmail. Just don't install the
    > latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail and you will be fine.
    I guess what I was asking is if one *needs* to have and use a Hotmail
    account in order to have one's Contacts synchronized automatically on all
    computers, as was implied in the previous post.

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    Don

    remove "lens cap" for email


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  11. #10


    DDW Guest

    Re: WLM vs Thunderbird?

    On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:47:45 -0400, "Don Cohen"
    <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote:

    >> TRY BOTH. No matter how many opinions you get here, the final
    >> decision will be based on how you like what you choose.
    >
    >
    >Thanks for the feedback. I'll need to try them in the near future. For
    >now, I'm just independently downloading email to desktop and laptop, with
    >both set to leave email on the server for 10 days before deleting.
    Along a different (but related) line: take a look at Windows Live
    FolderShare Beta. GREAT for keeping the notebook and desktop synched
    in critical areas. Even worked for my Outlook .PST files.

    >My desktop crashed almost 2 weeks ago (probably motherboard, was 6 1/2 years
    >old anyway...) and so I've been swamped researching, then buying, then
    >installing/configuring apps, learning 64-bit Vista, trouble-shooting, etc.
    >I'm a bit weary at the moment! ;-)
    DDW
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