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Old 12-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
Don Cohen


 
 

WLM: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???

Until recently, I had an XP Home/SP2 Desktop, and XP Home/SP2 Laptop, both
running Outlook Express. I would periodically do a one-way synch of the
storage files/folders so that the Laptop was the duplicate of the Desktop,
with the Desktop acting as the primary system.

The desktop died, and I replaced it with a Vista 64-bit system. I then
discovered OE had been replaced by Windows Mail, and that Windows Mail
couldn't be run on XP Home/SP2. My previous strategy was no longer
possible. It was suggested I consider Windows Live Mail, which could be run
on both OS's, and I could keep the files/folders synchronized as I did
before.

Well, I just installed WLM on the XP/SP2 Laptop, and see that each email
account I have (I use more than half a dozen for specific reasons) has its
own listing and set of inbox/outbox/sent items, etc. and further that there
is no common inbox (other than the option for the Quick Views folder to show
email from all inboxes). Even with that enabled, and collapsing the
subfolders on each email account, a large amount of real estate is taken up
by listing each account separately.

I searched all over, and see no way to configure this to work/look like it
did in OE, with a single set of common inbox/outbox, etc. I hope I'm
missing something because this looks like a deal-breaker for me. Also, if
looking for a previously sent email, I'd have to do a separate search
through each "sent items" folder? Much too cumbersome.

Please tell me I'm missing something!!

Assuming I'm not, any suggestion on another viable email application to run
on both the Vista 64-bit Desktop and XP/SP2 Laptop that would function like
OE used to??

--
Don

remove "lens cap" for email


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2008   #2 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: WLM: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???

You aren't missing anything. Microsoft decided that more users would
prefer separate folders for each POP3 account (as it is with HTTP and
IMAP), than sharing folders as OE did.

For a partial workaround, you could use messages rules to move all
incoming messages to an Inbox (or other folders) in the Storage folders.
The one downside is there's no way to automatically move the Sent
messages to a storage folder. You'd have to periodically manually move
them.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Don Cohen" <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#oKlgQiXJHA.5476@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Until recently, I had an XP Home/SP2 Desktop, and XP Home/SP2 Laptop,
> both running Outlook Express. I would periodically do a one-way synch
> of the storage files/folders so that the Laptop was the duplicate of
> the Desktop, with the Desktop acting as the primary system.
>
> The desktop died, and I replaced it with a Vista 64-bit system. I
> then discovered OE had been replaced by Windows Mail, and that Windows
> Mail couldn't be run on XP Home/SP2. My previous strategy was no
> longer possible. It was suggested I consider Windows Live Mail, which
> could be run on both OS's, and I could keep the files/folders
> synchronized as I did before.
>
> Well, I just installed WLM on the XP/SP2 Laptop, and see that each
> email account I have (I use more than half a dozen for specific
> reasons) has its own listing and set of inbox/outbox/sent items, etc.
> and further that there is no common inbox (other than the option for
> the Quick Views folder to show email from all inboxes). Even with
> that enabled, and collapsing the subfolders on each email account, a
> large amount of real estate is taken up by listing each account
> separately.
>
> I searched all over, and see no way to configure this to work/look
> like it did in OE, with a single set of common inbox/outbox, etc. I
> hope I'm missing something because this looks like a deal-breaker for
> me. Also, if looking for a previously sent email, I'd have to do a
> separate search through each "sent items" folder? Much too
> cumbersome.
>
> Please tell me I'm missing something!!
>
> Assuming I'm not, any suggestion on another viable email application
> to run on both the Vista 64-bit Desktop and XP/SP2 Laptop that would
> function like OE used to??
>
> --
> Don
>
> remove "lens cap" for email

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2008   #3 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???

As to searching for sent email, right-click on Quick views, choose
'Select quick views', put a check in 'All sent items'.
The various Quick views folders take the place of the composite
mail folders you are accustomed to.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Don Cohen" <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23oKlgQiXJHA.5476@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Until recently, I had an XP Home/SP2 Desktop, and XP Home/SP2 Laptop, both running Outlook Express. I would periodically do a
> one-way synch of the storage files/folders so that the Laptop was the duplicate of the Desktop, with the Desktop acting as the
> primary system.
>
> The desktop died, and I replaced it with a Vista 64-bit system. I then discovered OE had been replaced by Windows Mail, and
> that Windows Mail couldn't be run on XP Home/SP2. My previous strategy was no longer possible. It was suggested I consider
> Windows Live Mail, which could be run on both OS's, and I could keep the files/folders synchronized as I did before.
>
> Well, I just installed WLM on the XP/SP2 Laptop, and see that each email account I have (I use more than half a dozen for
> specific reasons) has its own listing and set of inbox/outbox/sent items, etc. and further that there is no common inbox (other
> than the option for the Quick Views folder to show email from all inboxes). Even with that enabled, and collapsing the
> subfolders on each email account, a large amount of real estate is taken up by listing each account separately.
>
> I searched all over, and see no way to configure this to work/look like it did in OE, with a single set of common inbox/outbox,
> etc. I hope I'm missing something because this looks like a deal-breaker for me. Also, if looking for a previously sent email,
> I'd have to do a separate search through each "sent items" folder? Much too cumbersome.
>
> Please tell me I'm missing something!!
>
> Assuming I'm not, any suggestion on another viable email application to run on both the Vista 64-bit Desktop and XP/SP2 Laptop
> that would function like OE used to??
>
> --
> Don
>
> remove "lens cap" for email

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2008   #4 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: WLM: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???

Microsoft dropped Identities, the previous method for having separate
folders for each account.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:umvkAPkXJHA.5704@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You aren't missing anything. Microsoft decided that more users would
> prefer separate folders for each POP3 account (as it is with HTTP and
> IMAP), than sharing folders as OE did.
>
> For a partial workaround, you could use messages rules to move all
> incoming messages to an Inbox (or other folders) in the Storage folders.
> The one downside is there's no way to automatically move the Sent messages
> to a storage folder. You'd have to periodically manually move them.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Don Cohen" <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#oKlgQiXJHA.5476@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Until recently, I had an XP Home/SP2 Desktop, and XP Home/SP2 Laptop,
>> both running Outlook Express. I would periodically do a one-way synch of
>> the storage files/folders so that the Laptop was the duplicate of the
>> Desktop, with the Desktop acting as the primary system.
>>
>> The desktop died, and I replaced it with a Vista 64-bit system. I then
>> discovered OE had been replaced by Windows Mail, and that Windows Mail
>> couldn't be run on XP Home/SP2. My previous strategy was no longer
>> possible. It was suggested I consider Windows Live Mail, which could be
>> run on both OS's, and I could keep the files/folders synchronized as I
>> did before.
>>
>> Well, I just installed WLM on the XP/SP2 Laptop, and see that each email
>> account I have (I use more than half a dozen for specific reasons) has
>> its own listing and set of inbox/outbox/sent items, etc. and further that
>> there is no common inbox (other than the option for the Quick Views
>> folder to show email from all inboxes). Even with that enabled, and
>> collapsing the subfolders on each email account, a large amount of real
>> estate is taken up by listing each account separately.
>>
>> I searched all over, and see no way to configure this to work/look like
>> it did in OE, with a single set of common inbox/outbox, etc. I hope I'm
>> missing something because this looks like a deal-breaker for me. Also,
>> if looking for a previously sent email, I'd have to do a separate search
>> through each "sent items" folder? Much too cumbersome.
>>
>> Please tell me I'm missing something!!
>>
>> Assuming I'm not, any suggestion on another viable email application to
>> run on both the Vista 64-bit Desktop and XP/SP2 Laptop that would
>> function like OE used to??
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>> remove "lens cap" for email
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2008   #5 (permalink)
Don Cohen


 
 

Re: WLM: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???

Thanks to both of you.

This is just too cumbersome to be worth the effort. I also imported all my
messages, and found even that was messed up. It created one set of messages
on the "root" level, but none of these could be read, with another set in
"Imported Folders" where they could. I imagine I might be able to work
around that problem, but I just don't think it's worth the effort.

Very strange how Outlook Express very simply got the job done, with better
contact handling than Windows Mail, the ability to "quick fill" from the
entire contact list, and not just the most recent 29, allowed a common inbox
where WLM doesn't.

Very frustrating.

Thanks for the help.

Don


"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ePOgexlXJHA.256@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Microsoft dropped Identities, the previous method for having separate
> folders for each account.
> --
> Ronald Sommer
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:umvkAPkXJHA.5704@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> You aren't missing anything. Microsoft decided that more users would
>> prefer separate folders for each POP3 account (as it is with HTTP and
>> IMAP), than sharing folders as OE did.
>>
>> For a partial workaround, you could use messages rules to move all
>> incoming messages to an Inbox (or other folders) in the Storage folders.
>> The one downside is there's no way to automatically move the Sent
>> messages to a storage folder. You'd have to periodically manually move
>> them.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Cohen" <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#oKlgQiXJHA.5476@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Until recently, I had an XP Home/SP2 Desktop, and XP Home/SP2 Laptop,
>>> both running Outlook Express. I would periodically do a one-way synch
>>> of the storage files/folders so that the Laptop was the duplicate of the
>>> Desktop, with the Desktop acting as the primary system.
>>>
>>> The desktop died, and I replaced it with a Vista 64-bit system. I then
>>> discovered OE had been replaced by Windows Mail, and that Windows Mail
>>> couldn't be run on XP Home/SP2. My previous strategy was no longer
>>> possible. It was suggested I consider Windows Live Mail, which could be
>>> run on both OS's, and I could keep the files/folders synchronized as I
>>> did before.
>>>
>>> Well, I just installed WLM on the XP/SP2 Laptop, and see that each email
>>> account I have (I use more than half a dozen for specific reasons) has
>>> its own listing and set of inbox/outbox/sent items, etc. and further
>>> that there is no common inbox (other than the option for the Quick Views
>>> folder to show email from all inboxes). Even with that enabled, and
>>> collapsing the subfolders on each email account, a large amount of real
>>> estate is taken up by listing each account separately.
>>>
>>> I searched all over, and see no way to configure this to work/look like
>>> it did in OE, with a single set of common inbox/outbox, etc. I hope I'm
>>> missing something because this looks like a deal-breaker for me. Also,
>>> if looking for a previously sent email, I'd have to do a separate search
>>> through each "sent items" folder? Much too cumbersome.
>>>
>>> Please tell me I'm missing something!!
>>>
>>> Assuming I'm not, any suggestion on another viable email application to
>>> run on both the Vista 64-bit Desktop and XP/SP2 Laptop that would
>>> function like OE used to??
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>> remove "lens cap" for email
>>
>>
--
Don

remove "lens cap" for email

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2008   #6 (permalink)
Don Cohen


 
 

Re: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???


"Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OhQjztlXJHA.2280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> As to searching for sent email, right-click on Quick views, choose
> 'Select quick views', put a check in 'All sent items'.
> The various Quick views folders take the place of the composite
> mail folders you are accustomed to.
Thanks. If there were some way of "hiding" all the accounts, and have only
the Quick Views set showing, this might be workable, but that doesn't seem
to be the case.

As I posted above to Ron and Michael, there are just too many compromises
and cludges to make this worthwhile. Outlook Express did the job pretty
simply and efficiently. Frustrating to see how both WM and WLM both "broke"
the basics.

Don


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-15-2008   #7 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: No Option for Common Inbox for Multiple Email Accounts???

To be sure, it takes getting used to. It took me many months.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Don Cohen" <doncohen@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ems326mXJHA.5828@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OhQjztlXJHA.2280@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> As to searching for sent email, right-click on Quick views, choose
>> 'Select quick views', put a check in 'All sent items'.
>> The various Quick views folders take the place of the composite
>> mail folders you are accustomed to.
>
> Thanks. If there were some way of "hiding" all the accounts, and have only the Quick Views set showing, this might be workable,
> but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>
> As I posted above to Ron and Michael, there are just too many compromises and cludges to make this worthwhile. Outlook Express
> did the job pretty simply and efficiently. Frustrating to see how both WM and WLM both "broke" the basics.
>
> Don
>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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